Game 10: Seattle Seahawks v L.A. Mutton Chops

[Michael K.]

Yes, i think Kubiak was out-gameplanned by the Rams' DC and perhaps outcoached although the Seahawks gained ov3r 400 yards.

Those were bad mistakes by a QB. I'm not sure it was because of the gameplan, or the play call though. Sam has to learn to not let things snowball. He is so worried about making a big play after a big mistake that he compounds the problem, IMO.

[Donn Beach]

Yes, i think Kubiak was out-gameplanned by the Rams' DC and perhaps outcoached although the Seahawks gained ov3r 400 yards.

Those were bad mistakes by a QB. I'm not sure it was because of the gameplan, or the play call though. Sam has to learn to not let things snowball. He is so worried about making a big play after a big mistake that he compounds the problem, IMO.

Yeah, I'm thinking about adjustments. Id have to go listen again but it seemed to MM said as much, they lagged in adjusting. There tends to be a focus on finding someone to blame, I'm not trying to do that. I think you're right. Darnold wanted to keep pressing, was that because it was a big game or because it's been the game plan. I don't know, and should kubiak have dialed him back.

It really is a combination of things, darnold wants to win the game, the Rams understood that and took advantage of his aggressiveness. There was a quote from a Ram along those lines. About an interception, they saw an opportunity because he could see darnold was unwilling to throw the ball away.

[Michael K.]

It really is a combination of things, darnold wants to win the game, the Rams understood that and took advantage of his aggressiveness. There was a quote from a Ram along those lines. About an interception, they saw an opportunity because he could see darnold was unwilling to throw the ball away.

So, this has been an issue with him as long as he has played, and yet he can't get it under control? And somehow, that's not a problem? I think it is far more likely that he breaks down mentally in big games when things start to get crazy than he all of a sudden develops the ability to slow things down in big moments.

Brock mentioned this morning that LA used a lot of smaller personnel, even on early downs, and if they are going to do that against us? We have to run it better. There were no negative runs, but also no explosive runs. That all could have changed if the TD by Walker isn't called back, but it also might change if we actually give the ball to the explosive back. There is obviously something about Walker that NFL coaches don't like, because he sure loses a lot of touches to a guy that simply shouldn't be taking that many touches from him.

[Sibelius Hindemith]

Grubb needed to quit running shotgun 90% of the snaps but he couldn't quit

Valid, but I think between Geno having his own issues and the line being dogshit? Grubb reverted to what he knew. That was getting the QB off the LOS and allowing him some time to process. That still isn't the point. All the pitchforks that were out for Grubb last year have now reverted to the QB and the Interior O Line. The QB and Interior O Line are LIGHT YEARS better than last year.

I think you have been overstating the amount of criticism Grubb was getting. I know i was all over the O line and JS for not doing more to address it. I can't speak for every one, but I (and i believe Donn as well) brought up the notion of there being philosophical differences between Grubb and Mac.

[Donn Beach]

Grubb needed to quit running shotgun 90% of the snaps but he couldn't quit

Valid, but I think between Geno having his own issues and the line being dogshit? Grubb reverted to what he knew. That was getting the QB off the LOS and allowing him some time to process. That still isn't the point. All the pitchforks that were out for Grubb last year have now reverted to the QB and the Interior O Line. The QB and Interior O Line are LIGHT YEARS better than last year.

I think you have been overstating the amount of criticism Grubb was getting. I know i was all over the O line and JS for not doing more to address it. I can't speak for every one, but I (and i believe Donn as well) brought up the notion of there being philosophical differences between Grubb and Mac.

Nobody, here or in the media I believe was inferring Grubb was a bad OC. The issue was it being a bad fit. Even Grubb admitted he struggled with the NFL style. I read somewhere that him and MM discussed how he would adapt to the NFL before he was hired but the fact is it became a struggle. I bet it was as much a mutual parting of the ways as it was getting fired. How is Alabama doing these days? I haven't checked. I'm going to guess he's happier back in the college ranks

[Donn Beach]

Cowherd on the Seahawks. Is he kinda like the Donald Trump of football analysts?

"Seattle is a young team, and young teams can often struggle to find an identity; the Seahawks don't. Darnold strangely fits them perfectly......Darnold, even with four picks, feels like he is a perfect fit for the young, youthful, little more mistake-prone Seahawks. In the Seahawks had three losses, they had multiple giveaways, and they're still all one-possession losses."

"You get into the octagon with the Seahawks and they're just bringing massive athleticism and they're going to make mistakes and they're going to come at you a hundred miles an hour. Again, if (Matthew) Stafford threw four picks, Rams would lose ugly. Seattle throws four on the road. Gets the ball kicked down to the one-inch line and almost wins it. Seattle has just so much athleticism, and it's a wildly dynamic team to watch. The last team I want to play in the playoffs, honest to God, would be Seattle; you'd better be prepared for a fight."

[Michael K.]

Valid, but I think between Geno having his own issues and the line being dogshit? Grubb reverted to what he knew. That was getting the QB off the LOS and allowing him some time to process. That still isn't the point. All the pitchforks that were out for Grubb last year have now reverted to the QB and the Interior O Line. The QB and Interior O Line are LIGHT YEARS better than last year.

I think you have been overstating the amount of criticism Grubb was getting. I know i was all over the O line and JS for not doing more to address it. I can't speak for every one, but I (and i believe Donn as well) brought up the notion of there being philosophical differences between Grubb and Mac.

Nobody, here or in the media I believe was inferring Grubb was a bad OC. The issue was it being a bad fit. Even Grubb admitted he struggled with the NFL style. I read somewhere that him and MM discussed how he would adapt to the NFL before he was hired but the fact is it became a struggle. I bet it was as much a mutual parting of the ways as it was getting fired. How is Alabama doing these days? I haven't checked. I'm going to guess he's happier back in the college ranks

You are understating the amount of heat he took. Sorry, give Kubiak last year's line and Geno Smith? And we are pretty fucking bad, all over again. As a matter of fact? I doubt Kubiak wins 10 games with that offense. That was my point all along...blaming the guy for that shit show was stupid. Was it a poor fit? That is most likely. But the story was how Grubb was addition by subtraction. There were articles shared and quotes all over. Many comments in here that he just needed to run it more. With that O Line? Holy Shit.

He was a bad fit, and wouldn't be doing as well as Kubiak is now....but the reverse is DEFINITELY true if Kubiak was here last year. Personnel was way more to blame that Grubb every was. Hell, Grubb and Waldron must be fucking Genius's for making Geno look serviceable! Did you watch the Raiders at all last night? I watched a little of the first half...that team has quit on Pete. And Geno is as bad as I have ever seen him.

Again, I just find it hilarious the lack of blame that Kubiak is taking. I agree....he shouldn't be taking blame, but neither should Grubb. You don't blame Grubb for that O Line and you don't blame Kubiak that Darnold shit the bed. I blame the coaches for losing to the 9ers, but that is it.

[Michael K.]

Cowherd on the Seahawks. Is he kinda like the Donald Trump of football analysts?

"Seattle is a young team, and young teams can often struggle to find an identity; the Seahawks don't. Darnold strangely fits them perfectly......Darnold, even with four picks, feels like he is a perfect fit for the young, youthful, little more mistake-prone Seahawks. In the Seahawks had three losses, they had multiple giveaways, and they're still all one-possession losses."

"You get into the octagon with the Seahawks and they're just bringing massive athleticism and they're going to make mistakes and they're going to come at you a hundred miles an hour. Again, if (Matthew) Stafford threw four picks, Rams would lose ugly. Seattle throws four on the road. Gets the ball kicked down to the one-inch line and almost wins it. Seattle has just so much athleticism, and it's a wildly dynamic team to watch. The last team I want to play in the playoffs, honest to God, would be Seattle; you'd better be prepared for a fight."

Not sure about the "Donald Trump" part...don't even know what that means. But where is Colin wrong?

[Sibelius Hindemith]

You are understating the amount of heat he took. Sorry, give Kubiak last year's line and Geno Smith? And we are pretty fucking bad, all over again. As a matter of fact? I doubt Kubiak wins 10 games with that offense. That was my point all along...blaming the guy for that shit show was stupid. Was it a poor fit? That is most likely. But the story was how Grubb was addition by subtraction. There were articles shared and quotes all over. Many comments in here that he just needed to run it more. With that O Line? Holy Shit.

Oh yeah, i remember i called him Grubb schlub one time. I guess with all the sway i have that really put him on the hot seat.

I just don't agree with you that the O line is way better this year or even that Darnold is significantly better than Geno. It seemed that Grubb was trying to run the same offense he ran at UW where he had an elite O line and play action wasn't deemed useful or necessary.

[DavidGee24]

You know what the Hawk organization should do? Announce that they got an Apology Call like the ones Pete Carroll used to get from the league for the bad calls that gave the Rams 11 free points. What's the league going to do about it, contract the franchise? Seriously, DO IT.