OTA thread 5 things to watch

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Post by Donn Beach » Mon Jul 07, 2025 2:49 am

pointed that out when they hired him, he didn't invent anything, he's good at running the Ravens defense
Macdonald didn't invent the current Ravens scheme: his Dean Pees/Rex Ryan scheme goes back literally decades for the Ravens- Pees was their DC during the 2012 SB through 2017. Before that, he was a LB coach. But Pees' defensive philosophy goes back a long time: he was John Harbaugh's college coach at Miami OH way back in 1983. Pees got on the Harbaugh radar cuz he went to Bowling Green like Jack Harbaugh did way back in the late 50s. Pees & the Harbaughs are all from the same northern Ohio area. Ravens got Macdonald as an intern 10 years ago, and trained him in their philosophy ever since. Once he was ready, they sent him to Michigan in 2021. Guess who his Michigan HC was- Jim Harbaugh. Point is, Macdonald's a smart guy but he's not some wunderkind Bmore got lucky with like everyone mistakenly thinks. The Ravens defense you're watching now has been good for a while, and they spent a decade teaching Macdonald how to run this scheme. Big reason why he's good at adjusting is he's been trained for 10 years on how to run this specific scheme.




wonder if there's anything there terms of his fondness for Hankins
Big DT in the middle, ideally athletic: Edges are already pretty decent, Nwosu & Boye should improve under Macdonald. Mone seems like an obvious cut. Seattle needs DT help in the middle- you need the big guys to take on double teams so the OLBs/DEs can swim around to get to the QB. Ideally, DT is athletic and isn't just a run stuffer, you want someone big but not lethargic. Shoring up DT is also essential to fixing this awful run defense.

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Re: OTA thread 5 things to watch

Post by douche » Mon Jul 07, 2025 10:40 pm

I found the rest of it interesting...

What does Seattle need to run MM's defense?

Most importantly, DISCIPLINE. The scheme works cuz it's hard for QBs to process, but it's also a challenge for his players to execute so many motions, disguises, etc. This is a very complicated scheme with a lot going on in every play. Seattle was 10th in defense penalties this year. On top of that, Seattle needs some serious work on the missed tackle problem- Hawks were 3rd in defense missed tackles this year. Had Bmore missed another 4 tackles, they would've led the NFL. Calling perfect coverage won't mean shit if the defense keeps missing tackles. A complicated scheme like this really requires players to not fuck up, if someone's out of position in a disguise-reliant zone scheme, you'll get WRs wide open and you can't have that. Improving the safety room is also critical, MM's scheme depends on good safeties to prevent TDs and YAC. Seattle has the advantage of already having Spoon & Riq, but with Spoon in the box and blitzing more to fill the Hamilton role, the other DBs will need to step up to make sure WRs aren't open. Remember- Ravens got sacks because their talented secondary consistently covered receivers and bought the DL time to get home.

Spoon will fill the Hamilton role. Kyle Hamilton famously is a very rare unicorn of a player, but Spoon is 1 of only a few DBs that can fill that role. Spoon staying healthy will be incredibly important, his versatility is what allows you to use so many different looks that confuse QBs.

Coby might blitz occasionally. Ravens used corner blitzes with Maulet sometimes, MM will like Coby's corner/safety vibe.

Versatile safeties: Seattle will almost certainly be replacing both Jamal & Quandre in the next 2 years, and safeties are super important to MM's scheme. Macdonald wants players to be as versatile as possible, so focus on safeties that can do a lot in the draft. Size+speed combo would be very appealing.

Patrick Queen is NOT the linebacker you want in FA. Yes he's good, but Seattle needs a middle LB in FA more than a will. Queen was a bust before Roquan, they had him playing mike and he was awful. Couldn't read the play at all, terrible in coverage. He didn't improve cuz MM unlocked him, he improved cuz they moved him to will where he should've been playing all along. Queen was improving a bit in '22, but he improved a lot once they added Roquan. Wills are far easier to draft, you just need a fast athletic LB that can shoot gaps. I'd rather keep Brooks than overpay on Queen. A field general MLB is a harder position, that's the one Seattle needs and should spend on in FA if the MLB class isn't great. LB is less important since the base D is nickel, but MLB is extremely important. Roquan is the one running the Ravens defense. Seattle needs its own Roquan- disciplined, good tackler, good communicator. MM's scheme is difficult to execute, you need MLB to keep everyone organized. Obv they won't be Roquan, he's a top 3 LB, but you get the point.

You need fast DBs to run Macdonald's scheme. It's zone, but they need to be able to flip hips, run backwards etc very quickly. Prioritize 3 cone & splits more than 40 times for drafted DBs, long speed is less important since the corners will have safety help behind them. Agility matters a ton. Ravens have Marlon Humphrey and Brandon Stephens- Stephens has no name recognition but was phenomenal this year. Seriously, he was shutting down Jamarr Chase. Riq's speed will be very valuable here- Spoon will fill the Hamilton role, but Riq's closing speed is also really important. Hamilton fell out of the top 10 (barely, he was 14) for a slow 40 & positional value, but his rangy game speed & length is what makes him so good. Riq's got the size & speed to excel in Macdonald's scheme.

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Re: OTA thread 5 things to watch

Post by Donn Beach » Mon Jul 07, 2025 11:21 pm

Yeah, it's a detailed analysis, I think there's a lot of anticipation with this being the second year MM can really get it up and running

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Re: OTA thread 5 things to watch

Post by douche » Mon Jul 07, 2025 11:48 pm

The essential takeaway appears to be that not only do you need the right players, but those players also need to realize that a lot will be expected from them.

Should be interesting.

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Post by Donn Beach » Tue Jul 08, 2025 1:34 am

Remember this is from when he was first hired. I think you could see it. At first they struggled but then it began to kick in, the defense at the end of the season was improved. And talk about needing the right players, how often do you see a team's leading tackler released in the middle of a season? Dodson wasn't playing badly but he wasn't fitting what MM wanted to do so he got rid of him.
"We really appreciate T-Dot," Macdonald said. "He's worked extremely hard, rehabbed throughout the offseason here. There was an opportunity for us when we sat and took a step back and realized where we were at, it was the best thing for us to move forward that way, give the other guys in the room an opportunity to step up. I hope those guys grab that opportunity by the horns and take it run with it, and then it gives Tyrel an opportunity to find another spot somewhere else so he can finish the year strong. That was the thought behind it."
. "I don't want us to feel like we're singling guys out; obviously it looks that way because of the roster moves that we made. We made them for two completely different reasons, but the things we need to improve are really the entire defense, it just so happens that we made the move at linebacker."
And in terms of stepping up, I think Knight could be a beast this season, he stepped right into starting last season and impressed. Remember how that draft pick was questioned ?
I remember at the time commenting Knight was probably MM's pet project. MM impressed me last season, he's serious about his defense.

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Re: OTA thread 5 things to watch

Post by Michael K. » Tue Jul 08, 2025 3:25 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
Tue Jul 08, 2025 1:34 am
MM impressed me last season, he's serious about his defense.
So was Pete. Pete was a gamechanger, until he refused to adapt.

It'll be interesting to see what Defensive Coaches do this season to combat the new run heavy slant that OCs are using to combat the two and three deep coverages. The last few years of watching Pete Carroll defenses have zero ability to stop any run game was fucking horrible. MM made some great adjustments last year, and with any luck this defense is just outside or just inside the top five this year.

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