Seahawks vs Lambs game thread

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Re: Seahawks vs Lambs game thread

Post by douche » Fri Dec 09, 2022 6:58 pm

Does SEA get past the Rams with Mayfield at QB? He did a pretty good job for them against the Raiders last night.

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Re: Seahawks vs Lambs game thread

Post by D-train » Fri Dec 09, 2022 7:02 pm

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Fri Dec 09, 2022 6:58 pm
Does SEA get past the Rams with Mayfield at QB? He did a pretty good job for them against the Raiders last night.
Their QB didn't have a bad game against us but maybe it was our defense. If Sam Darnold has a good game against us, good Lord.
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Re: Seahawks vs Lambs game thread

Post by Michael K. » Fri Dec 09, 2022 7:16 pm

douche wrote:
Fri Dec 09, 2022 6:58 pm
Does SEA get past the Rams with Mayfield at QB? He did a pretty good job for them against the Raiders last night.
I thought the Rams offense looked pretty pedestrian for most of the game last night, against a Defense we carved up. That said, our defense is quite possibly that bad.

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Re: Seahawks vs Lambs game thread

Post by douche » Fri Dec 09, 2022 7:22 pm

D-train wrote:
Fri Dec 09, 2022 7:02 pm
douche wrote:
Fri Dec 09, 2022 6:58 pm
Does SEA get past the Rams with Mayfield at QB? He did a pretty good job for them against the Raiders last night.
Their QB didn't have a bad game against us but maybe it was our defense. If Sam Darnold has a good game against us, good Lord.
No kidding.

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Re: Seahawks vs Lambs game thread

Post by Michael K. » Fri Dec 09, 2022 8:17 pm

It's not Darnold I am worried about. Jacobs ran for 229 yards against us at 6.9 per carry. He averaged 3.7 last night with a long of 15. Ran for 67 on less than 4 per carry against Jacksonville and 69 and 3.6 per carry against Arizona. He is a good back, but not Superman. We had ZERO answer. Carolina is a pretty good rushing offense. The might go full on Atlanta Falcons on us and never throw it. Shit, run it all game and on third down call bootleg. We might never get off the field! LOL

Foreman has run for over 100 yards in 4 of the 6 games he has played since Run CMC was traded. Only Baltimore and Cincy were able to slow him down. They can spell him with Hubbard, something that Vegas didn't have the luxury to do with Jacobs. We are the better team, and I imagine that Geno will be able to move the ball against them....when we have it. They might get it and hold it for awhile though the way we defend the run.

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Re: Seahawks vs Lambs game thread

Post by D-train » Fri Dec 09, 2022 8:21 pm

Who are the other villains in the run game besides Barton? Can't be just him given how bad we are?
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Re: Seahawks vs Lambs game thread

Post by Michael K. » Fri Dec 09, 2022 9:48 pm

D-train wrote:
Fri Dec 09, 2022 8:21 pm
Who are the other villains in the run game besides Barton? Can't be just him given how bad we are?
Well, Dave Wyman has his issues. For one he is the biggest Seahawk brown noser in history. OK, that his harsh, but you see what I am saying. That said, he has been very critical of how our defensive players handle their assignments.

I was driving home during the first half last Sunday, and he said after just about every defensive snap how we didn't fill this gap or that gap, how we failed to get the RB turned, players attacked with their shoulders either squared when they should be turned, or vice versa and he was at a loss for words why we NEVER had anyone outside on the bootlegs. Somehow? They don't understand their assignments.

I think the run of good play was amplified by shit offenses, and the bad defense we saw at the beginning of the year and now is what we are. The Cardinals are maybe the least disciplined offense in the NFL and they are lead by a fucking juvenile, and I don't even mean their immature QB that refuses to watch film. The Chargers are about as over hyped as anyone I have ever seen, short of the Giants, who happened to be the other team we played in that four game run that made us believe the defense had figured it out. Non of those offenses are A. Very good or B. In any way shape or form well coached. Piss Poor Combo. Of the three teams we played those four games, Herbert is the only QB that can threaten you in the passing game without running around and playing school yard ball, and he has somehow become check down Charlie.

They either aren't smart enough to run this new scheme, don't give a shit what they are supposed to do and are doing what ever they want, or the scheme is just to complex, which would basically fall back to them not being smart enough. Add in that our tackling isn't all that great and you have an issue. But, like I told you guys all summer long, Geno will save us! LOL

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Re: Seahawks vs Lambs game thread

Post by auroraave » Sat Dec 10, 2022 12:58 am

Michael K. wrote:
Fri Dec 09, 2022 9:48 pm
D-train wrote:
Fri Dec 09, 2022 8:21 pm
Who are the other villains in the run game besides Barton? Can't be just him given how bad we are?
Well, Dave Wyman has his issues. For one he is the biggest Seahawk brown noser in history. OK, that his harsh, but you see what I am saying. That said, he has been very critical of how our defensive players handle their assignments.

I was driving home during the first half last Sunday, and he said after just about every defensive snap how we didn't fill this gap or that gap, how we failed to get the RB turned, players attacked with their shoulders either squared when they should be turned, or vice versa and he was at a loss for words why we NEVER had anyone outside on the bootlegs. Somehow? They don't understand their assignments.

I think the run of good play was amplified by shit offenses, and the bad defense we saw at the beginning of the year and now is what we are. The Cardinals are maybe the least disciplined offense in the NFL and they are lead by a fucking juvenile, and I don't even mean their immature QB that refuses to watch film. The Chargers are about as over hyped as anyone I have ever seen, short of the Giants, who happened to be the other team we played in that four game run that made us believe the defense had figured it out. Non of those offenses are A. Very good or B. In any way shape or form well coached. Piss Poor Combo. Of the three teams we played those four games, Herbert is the only QB that can threaten you in the passing game without running around and playing school yard ball, and he has somehow become check down Charlie.

They either aren't smart enough to run this new scheme, don't give a shit what they are supposed to do and are doing what ever they want, or the scheme is just to complex, which would basically fall back to them not being smart enough. Add in that our tackling isn't all that great and you have an issue. But, like I told you guys all summer long, Geno will save us! LOL
The problem with Seattle's defense isn't "someone sucks", it's the fundamental fact that this team, and especially the defense is in a transitional stage. They have purgeD the vets and high salaries - and have begun the rebuild from the back end forward, with the exception of Brooks who is the future. My God they have SIX ROOKIES starting. This next draft will 100% focus on the front seven - the LB room is thin as is the front end. You cannot overhaul every single aspect of a team in one off season - despite what some people on here demand. Winning a few games does not mean the job is done. This team is AT LEAST a year or two away - despite what peoples expectations are. That is just the way it is. They are not making a championship run this year. Next season will have a plethora of new talent on defense - that, combined with this year's draft are, the foundations going forward. Anyone wringing their hands at this team, sitting at 7-5 against all odds, needs to get a grip. They are WAY over achieving and THAT is what you should be marveling at and they have NOT reached their ceiling yet. SF will CRUSH seattle right now - they are better everywhere. That doens't mean "Seattle sucks!" It means SF has had years of building their team while Seattle was ALWAYS posting winning records and sniffing the playoffs for ten years while ALWAYS having shitty draft positioning - which on here, of course, means "JS sucks".

It astonishes me that people actually think this team is 'something special' this year. They are not. They are over achieving, yes, but they in NO Way have the horses to compete with the SF's of the league. THIS IS THE PROCESS. IT IS NOT FINISHED. MANAGE YOUR EXPECTATIONS ACCORDINGLY. This team is way ahead of schedule - next is the draft and Adams coming back, maybe even Penny. No one wants to lose any games, but complaining about the this team's trajectory as if they are a loaded squad with SB expectations this season after the trade of the century - c'mon man. They just aren't that good --- yet. No one outside this forum expected them to be - yet they have wildly exceeded expectations. Just ONE TIME it would be nice to see people actually acknowledge and appreciate this team instead of the non stop complaining. 7-5 and in the playoiff hunt - which NO ONE saw coming - a defense of mostly youths who are looking electric - even DROY award candidates - and yet complaints because they aren't elite RIGHT THIS SECOND.

I honestly don't get it. I am not smart enough to grasp how this defense - with all the turnover all across the board - was supposed to be good this year. Who ever made that claim? Seems like people need to manage expectations and take a realistic approach on roster construction and the realities that come with it. Jesus - just think about what this roster will look like next year.

Go over to Donkey Nation on SB nation and get a cold hard dose of a miserable reality we are not even close to experiencing. I think a shit load of gratitude is in order for what this team has done in the last 9 months. Arguably the greatest off season in team history - building for the future while the donkey fanbase is on suicide watch. They are fucked for the forseeable future - but seattle's future is oh so bright.Yeah, I think a shit ton of gratitude is warranted - not complaining that the defense is struggling. They're young - they're supposed to struggle.

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Re: Seahawks vs Lambs game thread

Post by SeattleAddict » Sat Dec 10, 2022 1:32 am

Michael K. wrote:
Fri Dec 09, 2022 8:17 pm
It's not Darnold I am worried about. Jacobs ran for 229 yards against us at 6.9 per carry. He averaged 3.7 last night with a long of 15. Ran for 67 on less than 4 per carry against Jacksonville and 69 and 3.6 per carry against Arizona. He is a good back, but not Superman. We had ZERO answer.
I agree, but 80 of those yards came after he fumbled and the game should have been over. Still a big game, but 140 yards on 4.5 is just "bad" and not the ridiculous bullshit the line ended up being. Yeah, I'm still bitter about it.

I wonder if they were trying to stop the pass against the Raiders and it backfired, and they might flip that script and load the box against Carolina, force Darnold to throw. Maybe throw that new safety in as a defacto extra LB.

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