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Re: More on Clowney

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 10:49 pm
by KingCorran
D-train wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 10:47 pm
KingCorran wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 10:44 pm
D-train wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 7:41 pm
Hilarious the Eagles guy presents Ziggy as a reasonable Clowney alternative. lol
Griffin or nothing in that conversation, I assume? (I'm NOT a savvy football fan, as I'd say with baseball to some modest extent).
I would be ok with Griffen. I don't have a big issue with crazy people. I married one after all.
So did my wife. Hah.

Re: More on Clowney

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 11:21 pm
by D-train
KingCorran wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 10:49 pm
D-train wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 10:47 pm
KingCorran wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 10:44 pm


Griffin or nothing in that conversation, I assume? (I'm NOT a savvy football fan, as I'd say with baseball to some modest extent).
I would be ok with Griffen. I don't have a big issue with crazy people. I married one after all.
So did my wife. Hah.
:)

Re: More on Clowney

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 11:24 pm
by ThePro
We're getting Myles Garrett anyways... :lol:

https://twitter.com/vountee/status/1259 ... 64448?s=09

Re: More on Clowney

Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 12:48 am
by Michael K.
ThePro wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 11:24 pm
We're getting Myles Garrett anyways... :lol:

https://twitter.com/vountee/status/1259 ... 64448?s=09
Haha, saw that. And on KIRO few minutes ago they were talking about the rumors during Russ’s negotiations that we called the Browns about the #1 pick they used on Baker. Poor Browns.

Re: More on Clowney

Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 3:01 am
by D-train
Michael K. wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 12:48 am
ThePro wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 11:24 pm
We're getting Myles Garrett anyways... :lol:

https://twitter.com/vountee/status/1259 ... 64448?s=09
Haha, saw that. And on KIRO few minutes ago they were talking about the rumors during Russ’s negotiations that we called the Browns about the #1 pick they used on Baker. Poor Browns.
WTF where they thinking taking Baker after Manzell? Let's see the first punk didn't work, let's double down. At least with the Blazers it was a different regime that took two slow broken down big men instead of two of the top ten greatest players in NBA history.

Re: More on Clowney

Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 3:31 am
by 57reasons
those Blazer draft gaffes were epic. i can understand the recent one with Durant though - Greg Oden was an absolute beast on D who really dominated when healthy, and the league had not yet evolved to the total 3-point distance-shooting spread game that it is now almost exclusively. Bowie over Mike on the other hand because you already have Clyde Drexler is Exhibit A for the fallacy of drafting for need over BPA.

Re: More on Clowney

Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 3:43 am
by D-train
57reasons wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 3:31 am
those Blazer draft gaffes were epic. i can understand the recent one with Durant though - Greg Oden was an absolute beast on D who really dominated when healthy, and the league had not yet evolved to the total 3-point distance-shooting spread game that it is now almost exclusively. Bowie over Mike on the other hand because you already have Clyde Drexler is Exhibit A for the fallacy of drafting for need over BPA.
You have to be forgetting Oden's injury history. Remember he shot free throws left handed because he broke his right hand? Also he was already having knee issues in college as well. The biggest thing for me thought was Durant average like three more boards a game than this supposed Defense and Rebounding Guru. Wally Walker kind of guy.

Re: More on Clowney

Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 3:55 am
by Oso Dorado
NBA Centers are similar to. QBs in that teams would take more chances for them, particularly so in the past. The game, indeed, changed and while Wilt and Kareem would still be forces, they wouldn't be as dominant now as they were.

Re: More on Clowney

Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 8:22 am
by ThePro
Oso Dorado wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 3:55 am
NBA Centers are similar to. QBs in that teams would take more chances for them, particularly so in the past. The game, indeed, changed and while Wilt and Kareem would still be forces, they wouldn't be as dominant now as they were.
That's about sone bullshit.

Re: More on Clowney

Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 3:38 pm
by Oso Dorado
ThePro wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 8:22 am
Oso Dorado wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 3:55 am
NBA Centers are similar to. QBs in that teams would take more chances for them, particularly so in the past. The game, indeed, changed and while Wilt and Kareem would still be forces, they wouldn't be as dominant now as they were.
That's about sone bullshit.
Care to justify that? Do you think Kareem, if he was on today's NBA would still wind up with the most points in NBA history? He'd still be unguardable, one on one, but there are more good mobile 7 footers tan there were 40-50 years ago. The prevalence of the three pointer in the modern game would also lessen the importance of a dominant big man.
Era to era comparisons are always speculative, but I don't think I'm saying anything all that radical.