Seahawks vs Viqueens gane thread 12/22/24

[Michael K.]

We had 'em. That's what pisses me off. I saw the last TD again and yes, it was even worse hold than I thought. If they call that obvious hold, it would have gone a long way to even up the BS officiating. But my main bitch is with the weird ass play calling by Grubb. What in the actual fuck goes through his mind? It's like he's calling his first game of the year every game.

Random thoughts - Charbonnet did great while K9 was out, so who do they go to as second off the bench today. Macintosh.
There's no fucking way Lockett isn't open.

Going from first and five to third and forever is all on Grubb. I don't get that guy. Starting to feel like he is nothing more than a college guy that made a name for himself following DeBoer around. Pretty damn good when he was coaching against College guys and had Penix, 3 NFL WRs and the best O Line in football. Looks absolutely lost now. When Mark Sanchez is calling you out in the second quarter because by then you had still only dialed up three run plays? I just don't see how MacDonald keeps him.

I think Charbonnet was hurt. Wasn't he on the injury report on Wednesday or something? As many times as they have used him even when K9 is healthy, that has to be the reason, right? And I agree with Tyler, but he does look scared as shit. That second down play that he dropped straight to the ground and then had to roll for the first down once he realized no one was anywhere close to him? I just wonder how much his mind is now on retiring in one piece and not winning football games?

[trharder]

Going from first and five to third and forever is all on Grubb. I don't get that guy. Starting to feel like he is nothing more than a college guy that made a name for himself following DeBoer around. Pretty damn good when he was coaching against College guys and had Penix, 3 NFL WRs and the best O Line in football. Looks absolutely lost now. When Mark Sanchez is calling you out in the second quarter because by then you had still only dialed up three run plays? I just don't see how MacDonald keeps him.

You called it during/after the first game of the season. I thought you were just overreacting like you are prone to do,
but you were right about Grubb.

[Michael K.]

You called it during/after the first game of the season. I thought you were just overreacting like you are prone to do,
but you were right about Grubb.

It sucks, because I wanted to be wrong. But yeah, I am pretty sure I went nuclear in the first two quarters against Denver. It was maybe the worst offensive football I had ever seen. Then? I watched Howell. Haha. The common denominator though? Same OC. You may be right, and maybe Grubb just has no clue how to protect his QB, can't call an offense that revolves around the talent he has and what they do well.

I go back to how good the offense looked at AZ. The one game ever that we established and stuck with the run. Grubb seems to have absolutely zero ability to get a run game going.

[Donn Beach]

This guy is in the Philippines, he sees it

Sure, the offensive line performed surprisingly well in pass protection. That said, Grubb’s play-calling left much to be desired. His college-style strategies—relying on mismatches and simplified schemes—don’t translate to the NFL. Remember that the talent gaps here are smaller, and defenses are far more disciplined. Right now, it’s becoming increasingly clear that Grubb’s gamble as an NFL coordinator hasn’t paid off.

No moment exemplified this better than his decision to call a Ken Walker screen on a fake toss to DK Metcalf on 1st-and-5. Unsurprisingly, the play fooled no one and resulted in a 12-yard loss, forcing a punt. It’s plays like this that lead to serious questions about his future with the Seahawks.

https://clutchpoints.com/seahawks-most- ... ss-vikings

[trharder]

This guy is in the Philippines, he sees it

Sure, the offensive line performed surprisingly well in pass protection. That said, Grubb’s play-calling left much to be desired. His college-style strategies—relying on mismatches and simplified schemes—don’t translate to the NFL. Remember that the talent gaps here are smaller, and defenses are far more disciplined. Right now, it’s becoming increasingly clear that Grubb’s gamble as an NFL coordinator hasn’t paid off.

No moment exemplified this better than his decision to call a Ken Walker screen on a fake toss to DK Metcalf on 1st-and-5. Unsurprisingly, the play fooled no one and resulted in a 12-yard loss, forcing a punt. It’s plays like this that lead to serious questions about his future with the Seahawks.

https://clutchpoints.com/seahawks-most- ... ss-vikings

That one play call is liable to be the straw that broke the camel's back and gets Grubb fired.

[trharder]

I go back to how good the offense looked at AZ. The one game ever that we established and stuck with the run. Grubb seems to have absolutely zero ability to get a run game going.

Is that when they used the "counter blocking" or whatever? I don't know these things, but I was looking to see if
the had O-lineman pull or whatever to get back to that which did work. They didn't . There series before the 1st and 5,
they did run effectively a couple times, which I thought was going to lead to better balance of play calling, but
obviously didn't. We will likely never know what the fuck goes through Grubb's mind.

[Michael K.]

I think it was actually a seven yard loss, and they went from first and five to second and twelve. I think they also got sacked on third down. It was an incredibly embarrassing result from what started out as a first and five in plus territory. Just can't happen. They gave up two safeties in the first half against Denver. Can't happen. They threw two Red Zone INTs against the Rams. Can't happen. There are just too many "what the fuck" moments this year for me to believe he deserves another shot. He should probably go coach offense for Coach Prime, where Under Armor money can buy him better talent than the teams he is playing against.

I would have never said this after watching us play in Arizona, but that game is now the example for why he has to go. They ran the ball incredibly well that day...and have refused to even try to since.

[Michael K.]

Is that when they used the "counter blocking" or whatever? I don't know these things, but I was looking to see if
the had O-lineman pull or whatever to get back to that which did work. They didn't . There series before the 1st and 5,
they did run effectively a couple times, which I thought was going to lead to better balance of play calling, but
obviously didn't. We will likely never know what the fuck goes through Grubb's mind.

I believe the way Stink and Wyman have described it was "pin and pull". But yeah, they got way more creative in the run game....and just decided to never do it again. I can't stand that. I still go back to the way the Seahawks finished one season like 6 and 1, and they ran what they referred to as a "rhythm passing game" or "quick pass", it was described many ways, but was a complete change. They had no choice, Lynch was gone, Rawls was out...but Russ and Doug set records. They changed it in the playoffs, should have lost to the Vikings, and were down four plus scores to the Panthers before they went back to it. Then? Doubled down the next year. It was the beginning of the end for me with Pete. Then he does it again later on. Actually admits that he was uncomfortable with the way they were playing...and they were like 7 and 1!

These coaches and their stubborn arrogance drives me nuts. Would honestly lose games playing the way they want than playing a style that matches their talent and wins. So stupid.

[Seattle or Bust]

Prime example... Geno NEVER does this.

[DavidGee24]

HUGE game today. If we can just once put it together at home against a top opponent and remind Sam Darnold of who he is, and if the Jerks can knock off the Hams (and so far it's looking pretty good), we'll be back in the driver's seat.

(so of course as I type that Devonte Adams drops a TD pass and they kick a FG)

Let's go out there today, knock these bums down, and fart on their heads. And do likewise to their fans infiltrating our stadium.

GO HAWKS