Postmortem - Hawks v Chardonnay Nation

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Re: Postmortem - Hawks v Chardonnay Nation

Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Mon Sep 08, 2025 4:36 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
Mon Sep 08, 2025 4:06 pm
Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Mon Sep 08, 2025 3:54 pm
They probably win that game with Geno and DK and there will probably be a few more this season where we can say that. But we did get Milroe, Arroyo and Martinez in exchange for them so only time will tell if it was a good deal.
Yeah, they got Emmanwori for DK and Milroe for Geno. It's disappointing as heck because the game was goddamned won. It was like a series of choke jobs, but im not giving up quite yet
Well, they traded up using the #52 pick they got from PIT for DK in order to draft Emmanwori, but they also had the #50 pick. So if they don't make that DK trade, i think it likely they use their #50 pick to make the same move up. And they used that pick (50) on Arroyo.
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Re: Postmortem - Hawks v Chardonnay Nation

Post by Donn Beach » Mon Sep 08, 2025 4:41 pm

okay...so how about not going for it on 4th and one. I firmly saw that as another fuck up, but now I am softening my position a bit

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Re: Postmortem - Hawks v Chardonnay Nation

Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Mon Sep 08, 2025 4:49 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
Mon Sep 08, 2025 4:41 pm
okay...so how about not going for it on 4th and one. I firmly saw that as another fuck up, but now I am softening my position a bit
This team is not built for short yardage situations and they sucked at them last year so i would agree.

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Re: Postmortem - Hawks v Chardonnay Nation

Post by Donn Beach » Mon Sep 08, 2025 4:57 pm

Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Mon Sep 08, 2025 4:49 pm
Donn Beach wrote:
Mon Sep 08, 2025 4:41 pm
okay...so how about not going for it on 4th and one. I firmly saw that as another fuck up, but now I am softening my position a bit
This team is not built for short yardage situations and they sucked at them last year so i would agree.
but if you don't make it you can still pin them there with your elite defense. Seemed to me both a lack of confidence in his offense and his defense

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Re: Postmortem - Hawks v Chardonnay Nation

Post by Michael K. » Mon Sep 08, 2025 5:42 pm

Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Mon Sep 08, 2025 4:49 pm
Donn Beach wrote:
Mon Sep 08, 2025 4:41 pm
okay...so how about not going for it on 4th and one. I firmly saw that as another fuck up, but now I am softening my position a bit
This team is not built for short yardage situations and they sucked at them last year so i would agree.
I imagine the fumble on the Milroe tush push in the pre-season had something to do with that decision. But? Don't fucking tell me what we are going to be, a run first physical offense, and then opt for three points there. Again, they told us this off season what we wanted to hear. I'm not a huge fan of anything we do on offense. It's just fucking basic, boring and ineffective. Worked real well against second stringer and insurance salesman in two pre-season games though, so I guess we got that going for us.

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Re: Postmortem - Hawks v Chardonnay Nation

Post by Donn Beach » Mon Sep 08, 2025 5:53 pm

Michael K. wrote:
Mon Sep 08, 2025 5:42 pm
Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Mon Sep 08, 2025 4:49 pm
Donn Beach wrote:
Mon Sep 08, 2025 4:41 pm
okay...so how about not going for it on 4th and one. I firmly saw that as another fuck up, but now I am softening my position a bit
This team is not built for short yardage situations and they sucked at them last year so i would agree.
I imagine the fumble on the Milroe tush push in the pre-season had something to do with that decision. But? Don't fucking tell me what we are going to be, a run first physical offense, and then opt for three points there. Again, they told us this off season what we wanted to hear. I'm not a huge fan of anything we do on offense. It's just fucking basic, boring and ineffective. Worked real well against second stringer and insurance salesman in two pre-season games though, so I guess we got that going for us.
Yeah, that was my feeling, not only a run first physical offense but a hard nosed defensive one too. I wondered why go for 3 there

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Re: Postmortem - Hawks v Chardonnay Nation

Post by XpertDBA » Mon Sep 08, 2025 6:01 pm

I want to know why a former NFL elite WR doesn't make any effort at all to extend the football toward the 1st down marker in an attempt to do anything he can to make it?

He just wimped out and left us a yard short and nobody says boo about it.

For all of Russell Wilson's faults, that wasn't one of them......effort.

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Re: Postmortem - Hawks v Chardonnay Nation

Post by Michael K. » Mon Sep 08, 2025 6:12 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
Mon Sep 08, 2025 5:53 pm

Yeah, that was my feeling, not only a run first physical offense but a hard nosed defensive one too. I wondered why go for 3 there
Because they are full of shit, and told us all what they knew we wanted to hear. He is a defense first coach that is going to protect his defense at all times. Punts are wins, FGs are wins, blah fucking blah. Did you watch last night's game and get the feeling that Buffalo is stupid to play the game the way they do? Score fucking points. We have now had two coaches here that are upset when we score fast because their defense has to go play again. It's fucking unbelievable.

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Re: Postmortem - Hawks v Chardonnay Nation

Post by Michael K. » Mon Sep 08, 2025 6:14 pm

XpertDBA wrote:
Mon Sep 08, 2025 6:01 pm
I want to know why a former NFL elite WR doesn't make any effort at all to extend the football toward the 1st down marker in an attempt to do anything he can to make it?

He just wimped out and left us a yard short and nobody says boo about it.

For all of Russell Wilson's faults, that wasn't one of them......effort.
Kupp's "effort" was pointed out. Everyone is just to busy blaming the defense to consider ripping into this dogshit offense that we were promised all off season would be better. Too much buy in, so now there needs to be excuses. I said it yesterday, if Russ and the offense had a day like yesterday? There would have been forty topics about how fucking shitty the offense is. Today? It's all on Riq and bad luck because our poor babies can't practice or play in the Pre-Season. Fucking garbage. The offense was DOGSHIT, but a CB messes up twice and it's all on him.

I love that we act as though we'd have scored if not for the fumble. What part of the first 59 minutes of football made anyone think we were scoring a TD at the end? Come on man. And somehow that isn't even Darnold or the OC's fault. Abe Lucas is blocking one of the best DEs in football, and it's all on him. I'd kill to be Kubiak or Darnold right now. Totally suck ass at your job and make millions anyway? And everyone else is at fault. Sounds nice.

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Re: Postmortem - Hawks v Chardonnay Nation

Post by Donn Beach » Mon Sep 08, 2025 6:19 pm

XpertDBA wrote:
Mon Sep 08, 2025 6:01 pm
I want to know why a former NFL elite WR doesn't make any effort at all to extend the football toward the 1st down marker in an attempt to do anything he can to make it?

He just wimped out and left us a yard short and nobody says boo about it.

For all of Russell Wilson's faults, that wasn't one of them......effort.
I'll say this too about Russell. For all the banal crap that might come out of him, I never remember him ever blaming anybody else for anything, really having a negative thing to say at all

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