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Re: NFL discussing plan to incentivize minority hiring

Posted: Sun May 17, 2020 12:20 am
by D-train
Oso Dorado wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 12:15 am
Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Sat May 16, 2020 11:12 pm
What is a [racially] diverse candidate? An individual can only be of one race.
If my four grandparents were born in China, India, Kenya and Iceland, what race would that be?
Duh you would be ChIndiaKenland.

Re: NFL discussing plan to incentivize minority hiring

Posted: Sun May 17, 2020 12:30 am
by Sibelius Hindemith
Oso Dorado wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 12:15 am
Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Sat May 16, 2020 11:12 pm
What is a [racially] diverse candidate? An individual can only be of one race.
If my four grandparents were born in China, India, Kenya and Iceland, what race would that be?
A new one? A hybrid? I think you understood what i was getting at though, unless you thought the guy who wrote the article meant that the rule should only apply to people of mixed race.

Re: NFL discussing plan to incentivize minority hiring

Posted: Sun May 17, 2020 12:35 am
by D-train
Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 12:30 am
Oso Dorado wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 12:15 am
Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Sat May 16, 2020 11:12 pm
What is a [racially] diverse candidate? An individual can only be of one race.
If my four grandparents were born in China, India, Kenya and Iceland, what race would that be?
A new one? A hybrid? I think you understood what i was getting at though, unless you thought the guy who wrote the article meant that the rule should only apply to people of mixed race.
What were you getting at?

Re: NFL discussing plan to incentivize minority hiring

Posted: Sun May 17, 2020 12:46 am
by ThePro
This thread had become pretty ridiculous. If you are of mixed race you could classify as a minority. Not hard to follow. It clearly says minority candidates. Don't think it's a good idea but this "what race am I ?" Horseshit is beyond dumb.

Re: NFL discussing plan to incentivize minority hiring

Posted: Sun May 17, 2020 12:54 am
by Sibelius Hindemith
I was talking about English usage with regard to the word "diversity". I don't believe it is correct to describe an individual as diverse. The proper usage by my understanding is with regard to groups. The word the author should have used is non-white.

And sure, a person of mixed race can be considered a minority if they so desire.

Re: NFL discussing plan to incentivize minority hiring

Posted: Sun May 17, 2020 1:05 am
by D-train
ThePro wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 12:46 am
This thread had become pretty ridiculous. If you are of mixed race you could classify as a minority. Not hard to follow. It clearly says minority candidates. Don't think it's a good idea but this "what race am I ?" Horseshit is beyond dumb.
agree

Re: NFL discussing plan to incentivize minority hiring

Posted: Sun May 17, 2020 1:22 am
by Oso Dorado
That it was ridiculous was basically my point here. If you have a rule like that, then you get into the "What race am I?" and "How black is black?" types of questions.

...and I agree that diverse is not a good adjective to use for an individual.

Re: NFL discussing plan to incentivize minority hiring

Posted: Sun May 17, 2020 1:40 am
by Sibelius Hindemith
D-train wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 1:05 am
ThePro wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 12:46 am
This thread had become pretty ridiculous. If you are of mixed race you could classify as a minority. Not hard to follow. It clearly says minority candidates. Don't think it's a good idea but this "what race am I ?" Horseshit is beyond dumb.
agree
Me too.

Re: NFL discussing plan to incentivize minority hiring

Posted: Sun May 17, 2020 9:58 pm
by Hanjag
Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Sat May 16, 2020 11:31 pm
D-train wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 11:54 pm
That is why I don't get the gender gap in wages. If I owned a business and only had to pay women 70% of what men made why wouldn't I???
Are you talking about a wage gap or an employment gap?

Of course women make the same wages as men if they are doing the same job for the same employer. Isn't that the law? They are employed less mainly due to giving birth and child-rearing. Currently in the U.S. there is a large gender gap in graduate schools in favor of women. Men, or rather boys, are being left behind.
Hanjag wrote:
Sat May 16, 2020 11:05 am
You do, Women make more than their cohorts by an average of 8% in the USA today. And that number is growing.
What do you mean by their cohorts? Are you saying employers are paying women more to do the same work?
No, and yes. Child birthing time is one reason but there are about 20 reasons.
#1 men are more likely to take on dangerous jobs 99% of combat fatalities (97% since 1990) 94% of domestic work force fatalities men.
More likely to move for promotion
More often to ask for and accept over time
less sick leave
train based on high paying career route women dominate nursing and early education both over 90% vs. men targeting high paying stem route like engineering computer science.
Men more apt to risk failure and start a business.

Re: NFL discussing plan to incentivize minority hiring

Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 1:52 am
by Sibelius Hindemith
Okay, but you still didn't explain what you meant by this...
Hanjag wrote:
Sat May 16, 2020 11:05 am
You do, Women make more than their cohorts by an average of 8% in the USA today. And that number is growing.