Hey we celebrate negativity here on Marinertalk.com!ddraig wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 3:20 pmLet's say a guy weighs 300 pounds. Adding 16 pounds is like 5% of his body weight. That translates to 10 pounds for someone weighing 200 pounds. On a fit person, the extra weight is nearly nothing. And there is a good possibility on a 23 year old that extra weight is mostly muscle. Is there anything you like about Seattle Sports are you here just to be a Debbie Downer?
Yeah, and i think it's far more likely the extra 15 lbs didn't make him stronger or he would have added it in college.
Sure but the added weight probably will make him slower.Cascade Kid wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 4:00 pmWhat I interesting is a player's mass and how it translates to momentum.
A player weighing 302lbs that has a velocity of 0.8m/s has a momentum of 792 lb-ft/s
A player weighing 320lbs that has a velocity of 0.8m/s has a momentum of 840 lb-ft/s
That is an additional 48 lb-ft/s the opposing player has to counteract, and additionally, 18lbs extra to have to handle on a 300lb+ isolated player. Now put this player over the top of a center that has to snap a football before that center can engage in a block.
Sure. Let's say that changes his velocity to .79m/s = 829 lb-ft/s. That is still 37 lb-ft/s in momentum added.Sibelius Hindemith wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 4:11 pmSure but the added weight probably will make him slower.Cascade Kid wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 4:00 pmWhat I interesting is a player's mass and how it translates to momentum.
A player weighing 302lbs that has a velocity of 0.8m/s has a momentum of 792 lb-ft/s
A player weighing 320lbs that has a velocity of 0.8m/s has a momentum of 840 lb-ft/s
That is an additional 48 lb-ft/s the opposing player has to counteract, and additionally, 18lbs extra to have to handle on a 300lb+ isolated player. Now put this player over the top of a center that has to snap a football before that center can engage in a block.
Linemen actually carry a fair amount of fat in addition to muscle. To add 16 lbs in a short time like that is far more likely the result of eating more rather than working out harder.
If he was to lose approx. 0.1 sec off of his 40 yard dash at 320 this would change his velocity to .798m/s = 837.5 lb-ft/s. . That is a big difference compared to 792 lb-ft/s weighting 302lb while running one tenth of a second faster 40 yard dash. That extra 16lbs is a big deal at NT.Cascade Kid wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 4:16 pmSure. Let's say that changes his velocity to .79m/s = 829 lb-ft/s. That is still 37 lb-ft/s in momentum added.Sibelius Hindemith wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 4:11 pmSure but the added weight probably will make him slower.Cascade Kid wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 4:00 pmWhat I interesting is a player's mass and how it translates to momentum.
A player weighing 302lbs that has a velocity of 0.8m/s has a momentum of 792 lb-ft/s
A player weighing 320lbs that has a velocity of 0.8m/s has a momentum of 840 lb-ft/s
That is an additional 48 lb-ft/s the opposing player has to counteract, and additionally, 18lbs extra to have to handle on a 300lb+ isolated player. Now put this player over the top of a center that has to snap a football before that center can engage in a block.
Enter Cameron Young, the 4th round rookie out of Mississippi State. While he may not have the raw size of either Woods or Bryan Mone, he has potential to be a starter as a rookie at a position of need.
In his recent article in The Athletic, Michael-Shawn Dugar reported that Young put on roughly 20-lbs prior to minicamp in anticipation of holding down the middle of Seattle’s defensive front.
In defensive coordinator Clint Hurtt’s scheme, Young’s role will be more about gap control, either two-gapping as a head-up nose tackle or controlling a gap and a half in other alignments. Knowing that’s how Seattle planned to use him, Young went from being 304 pounds at the combine to 320-plus pounds at rookie camp.
“It gives me the ability to stay in my gap longer and hold those double teams for guys like Bobby Wagner to make plays,” Young said. “It really gives me that opportunity to play the gap-and-a-half scheme.”
With this extra mass, it isn’t difficult to see what Pete Carroll will like about Young; he has solid size, length, and power as a defender, and reportedly was a leader on the Mississippi State defense, according to Dane Brugler. In addition to his raw traits, he plays tough and looks disruptive on the field. He is more than a space filler — he can make his presence felt through the whistle.
A 5% increase in mass only decreases velo by ~1%?Cascade Kid wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 4:16 pmSure. Let's say that changes his velocity to .79m/s = 829 lb-ft/s. That is still 37 lb-ft/s in momentum added.Sibelius Hindemith wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 4:11 pmSure but the added weight probably will make him slower.Cascade Kid wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 4:00 pmWhat I interesting is a player's mass and how it translates to momentum.
A player weighing 302lbs that has a velocity of 0.8m/s has a momentum of 792 lb-ft/s
A player weighing 320lbs that has a velocity of 0.8m/s has a momentum of 840 lb-ft/s
That is an additional 48 lb-ft/s the opposing player has to counteract, and additionally, 18lbs extra to have to handle on a 300lb+ isolated player. Now put this player over the top of a center that has to snap a football before that center can engage in a block.
