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Re: Trade

Post by Pharmabro » Thu Oct 24, 2024 10:51 pm

D-train wrote:
Thu Oct 24, 2024 10:19 pm
This looks a lot better. I watched some other guys evaluating his play making the assertion that he was "non-committal? in run-D. He would stay at the 2nd-level until the RB made a commitment to the hole and only then would he advance to plug the hole. Vs. that Seahawk LB that countered the RB initial trajectory but when he did, he got trapped by the blocker and the RB redirects to a wide-open lane.

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Re: Trade

Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Fri Oct 25, 2024 2:57 am

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Thu Oct 24, 2024 10:45 pm
I watched his highlights :| I was not impressed. I hope this works out, but my initial reaction is that it was an over-reach. He was traded for a 6th before the season started. I am not sure there was a hot market for him.
And Schneider not only gave up a 4th rounder, he threw in a starting LB that was ranked higher than him by PFF. Starting to think JS is an idiot.

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Re: Trade

Post by Donn Beach » Fri Oct 25, 2024 2:29 pm

But he's not an idiot, st least if you want to believe his peers. The athletic polled front offices this summer with a number of questions and JS did quite well. This is Rob Staton referencing the article
. Firstly, there was a ton of praise for John Schneider. He was voted joint-best talent evaluator among GM’s (alongside Kansas City’s Brett Veach). He also finished fourth in a list for ‘best overall GM’ — half a vote behind Detroit’s Brad Holmes and two votes behind Veach and Philadelphia’s Howie Roseman.

Do not underestimate the benefit of having such a highly respected GM in charge of the Seahawks. You might disagree with some of Schneider’s decisions. You might linger on mistakes, or issues not addressed. However, this is a very difficult role to fill within an organisation. The Seahawks have a proven, respected man at the helm.
It does seem interesting, you got JS the best talent evaluator in the NFL. Mike macdonald defensive guru and particularly the linebacker whisperer. They clean out the linebacker room and now it seems to be where the issues are. There's also Trevis Gipson, they traded for him, a six rounder, he hasn't played has he? And I want to say too, it's not about watching tape. You don't think JS and Macdonald watch tape? I've got to think it's got to do with what Macdonald is trying to do, players not fitting the way he thought they would, or JS thought they would.


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Re: Trade

Post by Donn Beach » Fri Oct 25, 2024 3:09 pm

Terms of next season, that seems something to consider
Several starters are in line for big-money extensions, including Jones, quarterback Geno Smith, wide receiver DK Metcalf, left tackle Charles Cross, outside linebacker Boye Mafe, cornerback Riq Woolen and running back Kenneth Walker III. For that reason, any other additions via trade will have to be inexpensive. -- Brady Henderson

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Re: Trade

Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Fri Oct 25, 2024 5:15 pm

Dre'mont Jones is in line for a big-money extension? I doubt that. The others probably are although i doubt they will try to keep them all.

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Re: Trade

Post by Pharmabro » Sat Oct 26, 2024 12:37 pm

Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Fri Oct 25, 2024 5:15 pm
Dre'mont Jones is in line for a big-money extension? I doubt that. The others probably are although i doubt they will try to keep them all.
I think it is the new acquisition E. Jones

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Re: Trade

Post by Donn Beach » Sat Oct 26, 2024 2:17 pm

And really all these comparisons of Jones to Baker isn't the point. Jones is replacing Tyrel Dodson. Jones is going to take Dodson's position at middle linebacker, Dodson gets moved to weakside replacing Baker. The issue was the middle which wasn't where Baker was playing

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Re: Trade

Post by D-train » Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:43 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
Sat Oct 26, 2024 2:17 pm
And really all these comparisons of Jones to Baker isn't the point. Jones is replacing Tyrel Dodson. Jones is going to take Dodson's position at middle linebacker, Dodson gets moved to weakside replacing Baker. The issue was the middle which wasn't where Baker was playing
Are you sure? I thought it was the opposite.
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Re: Trade

Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Sat Oct 26, 2024 10:28 pm

They're both inside LBs. Most depth charts i could find from before the trade showed Dodson at LILB and Baker at RILB. One listed Dodson as MLB and Baker as WLB. The bigger LB though is usually on the strong side and the strong side is usually the left side for a defender so it really doesn't make much sense to me. The 5 or 6 up-to-date depth charts that i looked at were all over the place and used different terminology but it looks like Dodson is still left side and Jones is right side according to those.

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Re: Trade

Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Sun Oct 27, 2024 12:16 am

Donn Beach wrote:
Sat Oct 26, 2024 2:17 pm
And really all these comparisons of Jones to Baker isn't the point. Jones is replacing Tyrel Dodson. Jones is going to take Dodson's position at middle linebacker, Dodson gets moved to weakside replacing Baker. The issue was the middle which wasn't where Baker was playing
They were both in the middle, sort of. In a 3-4 there is a LILB and a RILB. Dodson was the LILB which i assume means strong side so perhaps that is interchangeable with the term middle LB. What i don't get is why they had Dodson playing that role when Baker seemed like a better fit.

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