Postmortem: Sea v TB - Throwback Edition

[auroraave]

At the very least, you have to agree that withholding a read option so we could have it cost us a ball game during the regular season is fucking dumb.

What game did a read option cost seattle a win? You are not actually suggesting the Milroe option cost Seattle the TB game .... right? There is just no way that is your actual position.

that fumble led to a TB TD, it impacted the game. And that's the thing, mistakes really are what kill you. The missed FG, that fumble, the Darnold interception, they play mistake free football they win the game

No, the position stated above was THAT PLAY cost them the game - which is fundamentally UNTRUE. It's as close to a bold-faced lie as you can get. It's a gross exaggeration. Did it impact the game? Absolutely. Did it decide the game? Absolutely not. That statement is a ridiculous exaggeration - and that's what people do when they cannot support a position - lie, exaggerate, etc.

Making the claim that if a team plays mistake football they win - is that supposed to be some kind of revelation? Hey, did you know they're expecting sunshine today in Tucson? C'mon with this nonsense. You are insulting people's intelligence with this bullshit.

[Donn Beach]

Yeah, I think there is a lot more attention paid to player statistics than the mistakes. I look at where the team is now and what strikes me is the poor tackling and the TOs. Seems kind of surprising to me. I would have guessed those would have been areas MM's team would be better at. I think there is coaching involved in it. MM talks about chasing edges, those are very much edges. The stuff that separates winners from losers

[Michael K.]

Hmmm. What do we have here? Okay, some word salad, hilarious arguing about a gross exaggeration they made up as a distraction so you don't notice the utter absurdity of their argument, and the best part - still not answering a simple question. Okay, brief summary:

Word salad? Check.
Gross exaggeration? Check.
Responding ad nauseum? Check.
Refusing to answer the question? Check.

Can someone please let the moderator know that Kamala Harris has hacked this account?

What did I exaggerate? You can look at a play that not only was going to lose yards, but resulted in a fumble, and say "yeah, but if it gained ten yards you'd all have been fine", and what I replied is off? Jesus dude, that's just stupid, and that is a stupid question. Again, the play didn't gain ten yards, no one else runs that play, and the there is a very good reason why!

So, answer my question. What NFL QB do you watch that is asked to perform the speed option in an actual NFL game? That isn't a what if. I'm not asking you "what if the Ravens ran it", I'm asking you what other teams run it!

I fucking hate it when you come in here and throw your little jabs and then run along and hide. The REASON the play didn't gain ten yards is because it is a stupid play that no one else runs. And yet? You insist on defending it for some ridiculous reason, and do it with a what if scenario! Yet? I'm the problem.

What if. The second stupidest argument on the internet, and yes, you use the other one all the time too. And that on is when someone questions a play call or roster move, you respond with "you couldn't do better". Or? If someone DOES come up with something that would have actually been better? It's hindsight. I called out the Penny pick since damn near day one, immediately questioned why he was taken over Chubb. And you STILL call it hindsight.

[Michael K.]

No, the position stated above was THAT PLAY cost them the game - which is fundamentally UNTRUE. It's as close to a bold-faced lie as you can get. It's a gross exaggeration. Did it impact the game? Absolutely. Did it decide the game? Absolutely not. That statement is a ridiculous exaggeration - and that's what people do when they cannot support a position - lie, exaggerate, etc.

Making the claim that if a team plays mistake football they win - is that supposed to be some kind of revelation? Hey, did you know they're expecting sunshine today in Tucson? C'mon with this nonsense. You are insulting people's intelligence with this bullshit.

They lost a one score game. THAT play is the DUMBEST call they could have made, took away a scoring opportunity and handed it another team. When you are a coaching staff, and YOUR decision resulted in that? You should wear it and you deserve to wear it.

No one said mistake free. That was a call that no one in their right mind should have made.

[Michael K.]

Don't disagree with much of what you said. I hate the call for the speed option, and I think sometimes the "commitment to the run" is overly forced. That said, Charbo had a good per carry average, and Walker's was exceptional. Maybe more attempts for Walker, but that is splitting hairs. Those per carry averages are also after the run game short of Walker was terrible in the first half.

The INT was bad luck, but they did get pressure on him on that play. The ball bounced of a helmet...shit happens. I was a little annoyed at the lack of a pass rush, and the fact that we seemed to simply not care about being disruptive, but your point about the secondary being so banged up is probably why. You expose your back end when you blitz. Tampa controlled our pass rush, and we most likely get shredded by Baker if we blitz. So? The key is to be better up front. No shocker there right? The Eagles have seemingly created the blue print for that.

I wasn't too bummed. I don't like the fact that this seems like a real good offense, FAR better than I gave it credit for being early in the season. So why play so timid at times. I HATED the draw call on second and long when a penalty backed us up. So incredibly similar to the Arizona game when a penalty backed us up and we settled for a FG that we then missed. I think it's fair to say the offense has shown an ability to generate big plays. Please rip out the page that has the second and long draw play on it!

I am also incredibly curious why we actually seem to have the opposite of a home field advantage now. So strange. We are going to be lamenting the SF loss all year, because this one wouldn't sting nearly as much. But we easily could have lost the AZ game, and without a real bad kick off late by them? We might have. I guess my point is, I'll take 3 and 2 at this point.

Fingers crossed the defense gets healthy, but we could be Baltimore. They are missing four All Pro's, I swear I heard that yesterday.

Baltimore has multiple key defensive starters out due to injuries, with Roquan Smith, Marlon Humphrey, and Chidobe Awuzie specifically ruled out for the recent Week 5 game. Other important defensive players, including safety Kyle Hamilton and defensive lineman Nnamdi Madubuike, are also sidelined or dealing with significant injuries, making the team severely shorthanded.

That is nuts. The more this league does to make the game safer, the worse it seems to get. It's almost as if these guys never practice or prepare and then are forced to go out and go full speed on Sunday...and we wonder why they aren't ready to do so? I just find it ridiculous that the NFL thinks it's safer to have them play a game on Sunday, Monday and Thursday...at full speed, without any practice or pre-season reps. But? Why should they care....it's a huge money maker and what they are doing has the appearance of trying to make the game safer, right?

Here's my original post AA. Don't like TWO play calls. Feel free to rip on me because a dumb play resulted in a turnover in a game we lost by one score, and I think it was a bad call....and the other resulted in third and long and another missed FG. Same as the week before.

I'm done with you dude. This is your MO. Demand I answer a question that is a what if, but refuse to answer back, then list off a bunch of shit that makes no sense but is supposed to be an insult on me. Stop quoting me, because this is the last time I address you.