National grades are in

[D-train]

That "garbage time" was generally the result of the Seahawks having the game in hand. In other words, the opponent knew they were going to run the ball, so it would have been harder, not easier, for the RB to gain yards. Of course Price is a significant upgrade, but one they might have made using a later draft pick to take him, or by drafting someone else like Washington.

Price was drafted 32nd and Washington 122nd. Love and Price were the only possible running backs with a chance of being legit lead RBs. Every expert said there was a huge drop off after that and they were right. Our offense would have been pathetic because we would have had no chance to establish the run.

[Donn Beach]

. This is how champions are built, two times over now in Schneider’s case with two completely different rosters, an NFL anomaly for a GM

I've brought that up, JS knows how to draft, build a roster.

Not sure who you're quoting there, but I'm pretty sure I recall you stating that you believe Schneider was far more influential than Carroll in selecting players in the draft while Pete was here, so how do you explain the drafts from 2013 to 2021 and reconcile that with your above comment?

I don't believe Pete was telling JS who to pick. The having last word deal in that respect I think is getting misunderstood. I think they worked together. It was consensus, not dictating. JS has stated, Pete never overruled a draft decision.

Terms of the history... I think JS began with three drafts that were phenomenal. Outliers, so the bar was set unreasonably high. I don't believe a GM can consistently "beat the system" in the first place. JS isn't smarter than everybody else. But what you can do is put together a plan and execute it as the draft unfolds. I don't think the drafts during that period were terrible but the law of averages probably kicked in. They also went a number of drafts without a first round pick didn't they. JS has stated he's adjusted his approach over those seasons. I think there could have been more difficulty trying to match talent to Pete's approach. Something was lacking there perhaps. I've commented before I feel like the Jamal Adams deal being a turning point. I feel like there was a disconnect between JS and Pete with how Adams was used, that cost them two firsts. You know this was JSs first GMing gig, he's been at it a long time. He had a huge amount of success at the very beginning but after that there was probably some learning curve still to be covered

[Donn Beach]

That "garbage time" was generally the result of the Seahawks having the game in hand. In other words, the opponent knew they were going to run the ball, so it would have been harder, not easier, for the RB to gain yards. Of course Price is a significant upgrade, but one they might have made using a later draft pick to take him, or by drafting someone else like Washington.

Price was drafted 32nd and Washington 122nd. Love and Price were the only possible running backs with a chance of being legit lead RBs. Every expert said there was a huge drop off after that and they were right. Our offense would have been pathetic because we would have had no chance to establish the run.

Who knows, maybe Washington was the correct pick. I don't think that's the issue. I think JSs approach was reasonable, that's what matters. The deal I think with all the mocks and whatever is this preoccupation with where a player is chosen. That Price was taken 32 or 42 matters that much. This micromanaging of the draft. Some of them are interesting, Andrews is interesting, he seems to have slid. But the reality is where teams made their selections, not where the nerds predicted them.

There was a corner, I should try to remember the name. He was predicted in the top 10, went in the fourth round. He had acl surgery. I would be curious to follow that

[D-train]

ATV guy, Dee Eskridge, Ifedi, LJ Collier and even recently Christian Haynes were horrible picks. 5 massive busts in 16 years probably isn't bad though.

[D-train]

That "garbage time" was generally the result of the Seahawks having the game in hand. In other words, the opponent knew they were going to run the ball, so it would have been harder, not easier, for the RB to gain yards. Of course Price is a significant upgrade, but one they might have made using a later draft pick to take him, or by drafting someone else like Washington.

Price was drafted 32nd and Washington 122nd. Love and Price were the only possible running backs with a chance of being legit lead RBs. Every expert said there was a huge drop off after that and they were right. Our offense would have been pathetic because we would have had no chance to establish the run.

Who knows, maybe Washington was the correct pick. I don't think that's the issue. I think JSs approach was reasonable, that's what matters. The deal I think with all the mocks and whatever is this preoccupation with where a player is chosen. That Price was taken 32 or 42 matters that much. This micromanaging of the draft. Some of them are interesting, Andrews is interesting, he seems to have slid. But the reality is where teams made their selections, not where the nerds predicted them.

There was a corner, I should try to remember the name. He was predicted in the top 10, went in the fourth round. He had acl surgery. I would be curious to follow that

I know and anyone with a brain knows that a rookie picked in the 4th round is not the correct pick to be your RB1

[D-train]

That "garbage time" was generally the result of the Seahawks having the game in hand. In other words, the opponent knew they were going to run the ball, so it would have been harder, not easier, for the RB to gain yards. Of course Price is a significant upgrade, but one they might have made using a later draft pick to take him, or by drafting someone else like Washington.

Price was drafted 32nd and Washington 122nd. Love and Price were the only possible running backs with a chance of being legit lead RBs. Every expert said there was a huge drop off after that and they were right. Our offense would have been pathetic because we would have had no chance to establish the run.

Who knows, maybe Washington was the correct pick. I don't think that's the issue. I think JSs approach was reasonable, that's what matters. The deal I think with all the mocks and whatever is this preoccupation with where a player is chosen. That Price was taken 32 or 42 matters that much. This micromanaging of the draft. Some of them are interesting, Andrews is interesting, he seems to have slid. But the reality is where teams made their selections, not where the nerds predicted them.

There was a corner, I should try to remember the name. He was predicted in the top 10, went in the fourth round. He had acl surgery. I would be curious to follow that

McCoy was the CB with the injury.

[Donn Beach]

ATV guy, Dee Eskridge, Ifedi, LJ Collier and even recently Christian Haynes were horrible picks. 5 massive busts in 16 years probably isn't bad though.

Ifedi a massive bust? He started basically every game of his career with the seahawks didn't he? He got a second contract with another team. Haynes has been a disappointment obviously. Collier is really the one that stands out to me. From the gossip that seemed like a screwed up draft process. That's the one I'd really point at as poor planning and execution

[Donn Beach]

Price was drafted 32nd and Washington 122nd. Love and Price were the only possible running backs with a chance of being legit lead RBs. Every expert said there was a huge drop off after that and they were right. Our offense would have been pathetic because we would have had no chance to establish the run.

Who knows, maybe Washington was the correct pick. I don't think that's the issue. I think JSs approach was reasonable, that's what matters. The deal I think with all the mocks and whatever is this preoccupation with where a player is chosen. That Price was taken 32 or 42 matters that much. This micromanaging of the draft. Some of them are interesting, Andrews is interesting, he seems to have slid. But the reality is where teams made their selections, not where the nerds predicted them.

There was a corner, I should try to remember the name. He was predicted in the top 10, went in the fourth round. He had acl surgery. I would be curious to follow that

McCoy was the CB with the injury.

Yeah, the Raiders. Another reason to keep track of the raiders lol

[Donn Beach]

Price was drafted 32nd and Washington 122nd. Love and Price were the only possible running backs with a chance of being legit lead RBs. Every expert said there was a huge drop off after that and they were right. Our offense would have been pathetic because we would have had no chance to establish the run.

Who knows, maybe Washington was the correct pick. I don't think that's the issue. I think JSs approach was reasonable, that's what matters. The deal I think with all the mocks and whatever is this preoccupation with where a player is chosen. That Price was taken 32 or 42 matters that much. This micromanaging of the draft. Some of them are interesting, Andrews is interesting, he seems to have slid. But the reality is where teams made their selections, not where the nerds predicted them.

There was a corner, I should try to remember the name. He was predicted in the top 10, went in the fourth round. He had acl surgery. I would be curious to follow that

I know and anyone with a brain knows that a rookie picked in the 4th round is not the correct pick to be your RB1

Unless he turns out to be Chris Warren and Price turns out to be Penny

[D-train]

Who knows, maybe Washington was the correct pick. I don't think that's the issue. I think JSs approach was reasonable, that's what matters. The deal I think with all the mocks and whatever is this preoccupation with where a player is chosen. That Price was taken 32 or 42 matters that much. This micromanaging of the draft. Some of them are interesting, Andrews is interesting, he seems to have slid. But the reality is where teams made their selections, not where the nerds predicted them.

There was a corner, I should try to remember the name. He was predicted in the top 10, went in the fourth round. He had acl surgery. I would be curious to follow that

I know and anyone with a brain knows that a rookie picked in the 4th round is not the correct pick to be your RB1

Unless he turns out to be Chris Warren and Price turns out to be Penny

You can't make draft decisions based on a less than 5% probability outcome.