Rate the position groups

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Re: Rate the position groups

Post by Michael K. » Fri May 05, 2023 1:08 am

auroraave wrote:
Thu May 04, 2023 12:44 pm
Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Wed May 03, 2023 6:24 pm
and your ratings are...

:P
Yessir!

QB: 8.5 - Geno is coming off a pro bowl season and has a high IQ with a low mileage chassis - his athleticism is wildy underrated.
RB: 9.5 - the depth is insane.
WR: 9 - The new WR should be a difference maker and make this group very hard to defend. this will stress defenses - and open underneath RB routes. If Matt Landers makes the roster - that group will be insane.
TE: 7 athletic group that should flourish with the attention on the WR group.
OL: 7.5 - underrated - depth at center - ungraded interior - sophs on the ends - a QB that reads and moves fast - stable of RB's - Ideal situation.
DL: 5.5 - going to be better than expected - mostly because of depth.
EDGE: 7.5 - a ton of talent, speed and depth. Late in the season this group will be formidable
LB: 5 - thinnest group on the squad. Secondary and line will have to over compensate.
DB: 9.5 - hard to find a more talented group in the league.
ST: 8
I had one typed out, not sure why it didn't post, but pretty similar. I went lower on ST, cuz I am unclear on our return game, a bit lower on Edge, but hope you are right. You went a half higher on a few spots than me, but I agree...best WR trio in the league, nice young depth and talent at RB, a returning Pro Bowl QB and a veteran backup and we improved the interior of the O Line.

I'll try to post my rankings once I'm not on my phone. Must have just not hit submit. But I am not far of from Aurora. Not quite as rosey as he is maybe, but if we resign Al Woods? I might just go buy into the winning the West hype.

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Re: Rate the position groups

Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Fri May 05, 2023 11:26 am

Michael K. wrote:
Fri May 05, 2023 1:08 am
I'll try to post my rankings once I'm not on my phone. Must have just not hit submit. But I am not far of from Aurora. Not quite as rosey as he is maybe, but if we resign Al Woods? I might just go buy into the winning the West hype.
You did post them already on page one (thank you) but will need to edit the LB and DL ranking and add one for Edge because i decided to make it a separate group.

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Re: Rate the position groups

Post by Michael K. » Fri May 05, 2023 2:10 pm

Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Fri May 05, 2023 11:26 am
Michael K. wrote:
Fri May 05, 2023 1:08 am
I'll try to post my rankings once I'm not on my phone. Must have just not hit submit. But I am not far of from Aurora. Not quite as rosey as he is maybe, but if we resign Al Woods? I might just go buy into the winning the West hype.
You did post them already on page one (thank you) but will need to edit the LB and DL ranking and add one for Edge because i decided to make it a separate group.
Good God, it was the second fricking post! This is why I don't do much on my phone besides text!

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Re: Rate the position groups

Post by auroraave » Fri May 05, 2023 2:53 pm

Is anyone imagining what this offense will look like in a 4 wide set? Lockett, metcalf, smith njigba, and 6'4 Landers who ran a 4.37 40 at the combine? who do you cover and how? and then you'll have to deal with them clearing out the underneath zones and Seattle's stable of RB's getting into wide open spaces. Good lord. This offense could be a seriously top 5 unit. They're gonna have to be 'cause the front end of that defense is still gonna be the weak link on the team. This team is built to score a lot.

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Re: Rate the position groups

Post by Cascade Kid » Fri May 05, 2023 3:28 pm

Grading 1-10 with 5 being median. Poor performance score range 1-3, average 4-6, good 7-9, elite 10

QB:(7) Geno had a surprising Pro Bowl year. But questions do linger due to his history and that he was unable to perform at a high level for the last 1/3 of the season.
RB:(7) Walker served the Seahawks well in 2022 and had a good nose for the end zone. Hopefully Charbonnet is a successful compliment that will be necessary for the RB group to succeed. The young RB group has upside if it can stay healthy.
WR:(8) Last season DK was doubled due to the lack of WR depth which impacted his overall performance. The addition of JSN could have the WR group on a trajectory to becoming elite, but right now I'll settle on them being very good
TE:(5) There is no standout in this group of three TEs. They all perform a set of skills essential to the offense, but no TE or skill they have are significantly spectacular.
OL:(4) So, so young... Lots of upside in this group, but it is going to still take time for them to develop and gel. There's a ton of hope and promise that this group could produce a PBer or two in the next couple of years.

Offense Average Score: (6.2)
This does not necessarily imply them offense will be marginally good, but maybe it will indicate something as a unit as the season plays out.

DL:(5) Considering last year I'd give this group a (2) this group is likely the most improved group in my grading. The additions of Dre'mont Jones, Jarren Reed, and the 2023 DL draft class helps bouy them into the average category. We should see a strong pass rush, but hopefully Mone is ready to do his part in strengthening the front 7 against the run.
EDGE/OLB:(7) This group is going to be pretty darn good, impart by a better DL and LB core than 2022. The addition of Derek Hall should keep lasting pressure coming from the edge.
LB:(5) Last year I would grade them a (3) grade. The LB responsibility in the 3-4 just seemed too much for last years personnel. The return of Bobby coming off of a strong year while playing in the Ram's 3-4 scheme should be disruptive. I do have big questions on having two prior ACL repaired LBs along side Bobby. Hopefully Bush finds someone that resembles the player he was as a rookie and brings him in 2023. It's tough to call this group anything more than average.
DB:(8+) So many questions make this grade so variable. A college standout rookie playing one side, and the return of Adams and if he can play in the box and be the same disruption. This group will certainly be good, and it has a massive upside to become elite.

Defensive Average Score: (6.25)

ST:(5) Why a (5)? Because I really don't know. There are three elements I see that truly weigh this score. Kickoff coverage, punt coverage (especially gunners), and returners. I don't know if we were bad or good last year. Just not much buzz either way. I'll just stick with a middle of the road average score for this group.

ST Average Score: (5)

I have the belief that if you have at least a good offense, at least a good defense, a good special teams, and a decent QB you can win a Super Bowl. Hopefully we will see some upside to bouy these scores a bit more to get us on this competitive level in 2023

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Re: Rate the position groups

Post by douche » Fri May 05, 2023 4:02 pm

auroraave wrote:
Fri May 05, 2023 2:53 pm
This team is built to score a lot.
It is, but is that Pete's philosophy? He's always been so defense-oriented. Should prove interesting.

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Re: Rate the position groups

Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Fri May 05, 2023 4:10 pm

Pete's philosophy is you don't win games by scoring, you win games by "taking care of" the football.

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Re: Rate the position groups

Post by douche » Fri May 05, 2023 4:23 pm

Exactly. Even though the team is built to score, I'm not so sure how that will play out.

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Re: Rate the position groups

Post by Michael K. » Fri May 05, 2023 6:00 pm

Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Fri May 05, 2023 4:10 pm
Pete's philosophy is you don't win games by scoring, you win games by "taking care of" the football.
Well, we were what, 6 and 1 the year we were lighting it up on offense, before he changed things so we could finish 5 and 6 including a playoff loss? I feel I am misrepresenting that some, but I am too lazy to go look it up. I know that we lost a Prime Time game in OT to Arizona like 31 to 34. We had two of the stupidest defensive personal foul penalties I have EVERY seen, and gave up 34 points. Pete came out and verbally assaulted the offense for their performance. Never mind the 31 points scored, forget the 34 given up. Sorry, I will NEVER forget how that season flipped as soon as he decided to take the one strength he had and change things because he "wasn't comfortable winning that way". Better to lose more games, lose a home playoff game, and be comfortable, then go to the Super Bowl with a style of play that makes you uncomfortable. :o :cry: :o :cry: :shock:

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Re: Rate the position groups

Post by douche » Fri May 05, 2023 6:17 pm

Michael K. wrote:
Fri May 05, 2023 6:00 pm
Better to lose more games, lose a home playoff game, and be comfortable, then go to the Super Bowl with a style of play that makes you uncomfortable. :o :cry: :o :cry: :shock:
I hear ya!

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