Adams good as gone

[DavidGee24]

Perhaps one thing we can all agree on is the scourge that social media has become.

You're not kidding, it has given such a loud voice to depraved people and to stupid people.

[Michael K.]

Perhaps one thing we can all agree on is the scourge that social media has become.

You're not kidding, it has given such a loud voice to depraved people and to stupid people.

Yep

[Captain 97]

I think maybe the reason Adams can't defend a pass to save is life is because he has a problem with his eyesight.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/12/07 ... 401248.jpg

I was expecting to see some horribly disfigure cow but she looks totally normal to me. Not going to get a modelling contract but 99 out of 100 guys would probably have no problem dating someone who looks like this.

[Michael K.]

I think maybe the reason Adams can't defend a pass to save is life is because he has a problem with his eyesight.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/12/07 ... 401248.jpg

I was expecting to see some horribly disfigure cow but she looks totally normal to me. Not going to get a modelling contract but 99 out of 100 guys would probably have no problem dating someone who looks like this.

Yeah, odd strategy on his part. It was a dick move, and not really even one that makes sense. Again, he has a lot of AB in him, and his play isn't making his bullshit worth it anymore.

[D-train]

By Bob Condotta
Seattle Times staff reporter
RENTON — Seahawks safety Jamal Adams has attracted a lot of attention in recent days for his social-media presence, and his no-apologies response to some of the reaction it generated.

All of that might mask that the origin of the controversy was a response to Adams allowing the game-winning touchdown in the Seahawks’ 41-35 loss at Dallas on Nov. 30 — a 12-yard pass from Dak Prescott to tight end Jake Ferguson.

It was a play that, to many, served as the latest example of Adams’ Seahawks career not turning out as anticipated.

The 28-year-old Adams was acquired to much fanfare in July 2020 — a trade with the New York Jets in which the Seahawks gave up first-round picks in 2021 and 2022, as well as a third-round pick and safety Bradley McDougald (Seattle got back a fourth-round pick and used it on Coby Bryant).

It started out fine as Adams set an NFL record for a defensive back with 9.5 sacks in 2020 as the Seahawks went 12-4 and won the NFC West.

The Seahawks doubled down on their investment in Adams in the summer of 2021, signing him to a four-year contract worth up to $72 million that made him the highest-paid safety in NFL history at the time, and remains the third-highest for any safety.


He missed the rest of 2022 and the first four games of this season before returning, but he had to sit out the Rams game on Nov. 19 with the knee still bothering him.

That he’s fighting through the injuries had Adams painting a bright picture of his play so far this season — probably a better one than some fans might have expected.

“I think I’m doing pretty good, man,’’ Adams said Wednesday. “I came off a torn quad. I was in a straight brace for probably about 20-plus weeks, wasn’t able to walk, wasn’t able to do anything. So just getting back into the flow of things after missing a year of football. I’m doing OK.’’


Adams acknowledged, “there’s a lot of things that I can correct’’ but noted the knee will be bothering him the rest of this year, saying that when he is “fully, fully healthy, which will be next year, [then] we’ll change those things.’’

Carroll, as might be expected, given his historically optimistic take on just about everything, seemed to agree.

“He looked the best he’s looked all year,’’ Carroll said of Adams’ performance against Dallas. “He moved well. I talked to him about it, and he came out of the game feeling better than he has. … He has not been able to practice regularly throughout this time, but he looked quick, he looked light on his feet, and I was really happy for him that he could take a step forward. It’s better than what he’s looked.”

His grade from Pro Football Focus of 64.7 is right in line with his marks from the 2020 and 2021 seasons. Despite his 9.5 sacks, he had a 64.2 grade in 2020 because of a 53.1 coverage grade. He had a 60.1 grade in 2021.

His grade this season also ranks middle-of-the-pack — 43rd of 88 safeties. And while PFF grades are far from gospel, Adams’ marks seem to reflect the general opinion of his play.

Especially perplexing is the lack of sacks.

Adams’ 9.5 sacks in 2020 made him one of the more interesting defensive weapons in the NFL that season. It helped spur a late-season defensive turnaround — the Seahawks allowed 17 points or fewer in five straight games on their way to winning more games than they have in all but two other seasons.

Adams doesn’t have a sack since a win over Washington on Dec. 20, 2020, a span of 24 games, including all eight this year.

According to PFF, Adams has been used in a pass-rush role on just 25 of 464 snaps (compared to 104 of 784 in 2020).

He has no sacks and just one QB hit, though he also deflected a pass off his helmet late in the Cleveland game for an interception that allowed the Seahawks to rally for the win.


Asked Thursday about Adams’ use as a rusher, defensive coordinator Clint Hurtt noted that opponents often account for the possibility that Adams could rush the passer, which helps open things up for others even if Adams drops back into coverage.

“You’re kind of finding your spots of when you can go and when you can do that,’’ Hurtt said. “The thing is, when he is there, whether blitzing them or not, there [are] a lot of protections that go his way because he brings a lot of attention to him because of his ability to blitz and win one-on-ones, and things of that nature. But in turn, that helps other guys become available, too, when you do send them. So sometimes it’s finding the right opportunities and time to do that. He can still have an impact on the game if he’s not blitzing because of the attention that he can draw to himself because of his reputation and resume.’’

Is that worth being paid more than any safety in the league other than the Chargers’ Derwin James ($19 million) and Pittsburgh’s Minkah Fitzpatrick ($18.247 million)?

That’s a question the Seahawks may have to answer after the season.

In a move that caught some by surprise, in September the team restructured Adams’ contract to convert $9.92 million of his $11 million base salary for this season into a bonus.

That allowed them to spread the cap hit of that salary over the remaining three years of his contract, creating $6.61 million in cap space for the rest of the 2023 season.

The restructure added $3.3 million to Adams’ cap hits for each of the 2024 and 2025 seasons; it’s now $26.9 million in 2024. It also increased the dead-cap hit for the 2024 season — meaning, cap space that would be taken up if Adams is no longer with the team — to $20.8 million, while saving $6.1 million.

That hefty cap hit would make it even more costly for the Seahawks to cut Adams after the season. They could designate him as a post-June 1 release, and the dead-cap hit would be cut in half, spread over 2024 and 2025. That would also save $16.5 million against the 2024 cap, though that money couldn’t be used until after June 1.

The dead-cap money and the Seahawks’ investment would seem to point to Adams likely remaining part of the team’s future. But what happens the rest of this year could tell a lot.

[roosevelt]

Yes, I think it would be good to call it quits. Doesn't seem to have adequate cover skills.
Arguably, the worst trade in Seahawk history.

The latest trade is not very good either. DL for a second round draft pick.

Pete and the short GM always seem to think they are a player away from competing like in the old days.

[D-train]

This is funny:

[Gametime]

Love that song!!

The funny thing is that people are blaming the quad tear as his coverage issue. Well, he was shitty in coverage before that injury. Or blaming the injury on his speed and explosion getting to the QB. Well, he didn't have any sacks before the injury against Denver.

I am sure the injury has effected him. It just made his weaknesses even weaker.

[Donn Beach]

Love that song!!

The funny thing is that people are blaming the quad tear as his coverage issue. Well, he was shitty in coverage before that injury. Or blaming the injury on his speed and explosion getting to the QB. Well, he didn't have any sacks before the injury against Denver.

I am sure the injury has effected him. It just made his weaknesses even weaker.

He was also good in coverage before the injury. Check his PFF numbers before he was traded

[Donn Beach]

When the company you work for is paying you a bajillion dollars a year, I think you should STFU and just do your job -- and not be an embarrassment to them.

Can't disagree. But sometimes it can be a real gray area. Can a person attend a rally and picket on the weekend, and make a statement to a news outlet without fear of repercussion? An average person, I suppose. But even then, if your employer happened to see you on the news, there could be a problem.

Again, I'm just curious where you draw the line. In this case, it was a single word on a social media outlet. Yes, he's a professional athlete who has a higher profile than the average person. And yes, he's paid a lot of money. If I was in Adams' position, I wouldn't have posted anything in reply, but that's just me. Adams, however, is in love with himself, his ego is huge and apparently he doesn't care what anyone thinks. What went on during the conversation between him and Carroll, and will it make any difference going forward? Only time will tell. We all watched Antonio Brown continually implode. Some of these guys are borderline nuts.

I guess that's where the average joe comes out ahead because they can post almost anything with little backlash because nobody knows who they are. Or perhaps a smarter move would be to disguise your online presence.

You're hitting on one of the evils of professional sports. So much emphasis is placed on it. Achieving greatness in professional sports is placed highly in the collective conscience. If a person leads the NFL in rushing yards, they feel like they've achieved something in life, that they've done something, when they did nothing but run with a ball.

The salaries are essentially muzzles. So, we prop up these individuals that do absolutely nothing to change anything. Professional sports is the bread and circuses of the current control system. And, you're correct that it's not just 18 mil per year defensive backs. It's any employee at any company. Heck, even if you own the company, if you say the wrong thing and you're Papa John.

Kaepernick was blackballed. Before Kaepernick was Mahmoud Abdul Rauf.

The NFL is about getting you hooked on beer and Viagra. It's about selling you a 2023 Ford F150. It's about military propaganda. Parts of it are fake / scripted. It's the main show of the mainstream. The grand stage of obedience. Wear the uniform your told. Run the route your told. Line up in the formation you're told. This is not about voicing personal opinions. This is about the NFL brand and how important it is to keep society functioning a certain way.

Evils? They are profiding entertainment, and they get paid according. There's the music business, the movie business, the sports business, that's the major areas isn't it. You have an issue with entertainment in general or just athletics supplying entertainment