Post Mortem: Hawks v Cards

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Re: Post Mortem: Hawks v Cards

Post by Michael K. » Tue Nov 26, 2024 5:07 pm

I agree. Lucas needs a little time, but he is a physical presence. I'll take that while he rounds back into shape over the bullshit we've had at RT since he left last year.

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Re: Post Mortem: Hawks v Cards

Post by douche » Tue Nov 26, 2024 5:09 pm

auroraave wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2024 5:03 pm
I saw plays where geno had hours in the pocket.
So did I. So what is it? Poor play-calling? Receivers running bad routes? All that time and not much in the way of results.

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Re: Post Mortem: Hawks v Cards

Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Tue Nov 26, 2024 5:23 pm

So Geno is the real problem, not the offensive line. Got it... :roll:

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Re: Post Mortem: Hawks v Cards

Post by Donn Beach » Tue Nov 26, 2024 5:54 pm

Here's an explanation of his score, it was his second game of the season and the first where he played every snap
Seahawks head coach Mike Macdonald and offensive coordinator Ryan Grubb made the decision to occasionally rotate Lucas out of the lineup against San Francisco, replacing him with rookie blocker Mike Jerrell to allow Lucas to catch his breath. That did not occur versus the Cardinals. He played every offensive snap.

Lucas wasn’t perfect. The former Washington State standout was whistled for two illegal formation penalties. Pro Football Focus credited Lucas with allowing two quarterback pressures and zero sacks.
Lucas graded subpar as a run blocker, earning a 50.3 from PFF’s decision makers. It was significantly lower than his debut run-blocking grade of 79.0 last week. Seattle struggled to effectively run the football. Starting ball carrier Kenneth Walker III was limited to 41 rushing yards via 16 carries (2.6 yards per carry).

Lucas’ ability to play the complete workload of snaps indicates progress. The penalties and occasional setbacks in pass protection and as a run blocker indicates he’s still shaking off the rust. Lucas should continue improving down the critical stretch of Seattle’s 2024 season.

https://seahawkswire.usatoday.com/2024/ ... ek-12-win/

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Re: Post Mortem: Hawks v Cards

Post by Bil522 » Tue Nov 26, 2024 7:15 pm

Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2024 5:23 pm
So Geno is the real problem, not the offensive line. Got it... :roll:
As with all things football, it is not just one thing, but a combination of.things. Is it Geno? Sometimes. Is it the OL? Sometimes. Is it the play calling? Sometimes. Is it fans reading to much into things? Sometimes

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Re: Post Mortem: Hawks v Cards

Post by Donn Beach » Tue Nov 26, 2024 7:46 pm

I don't think it makes sense to be blaming Geno for being a problem when you're asking him to shoulder winning football games without a running game to compliment his abilities. If you had a balanced offense you might find he didn't press as hard. He might be quite adequate actually. Is that issue the fault of the offensive line? I don't know but I believe offensive lines can be more important than running backs

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Re: Post Mortem: Hawks v Cards

Post by douche » Tue Nov 26, 2024 8:58 pm

What aurora was saying was that there were times when Geno had a ton of time, but it wasn't happening. Which tells me that the o-line isn't that bad (although it needs improvement), and that something else is going on. Receivers not open, botched routes, Geno trying to do too much, not running when there's open field...

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Re: Post Mortem: Hawks v Cards

Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Tue Nov 26, 2024 9:18 pm

According to this chart, the Seahawks O line is that bad and was that bad two days ago...

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Re: Post Mortem: Hawks v Cards

Post by D-train » Tue Nov 26, 2024 10:19 pm

The line is bad and sometimes they give him plenty of time. Some of those times he holds the ball too long or does something crazy.
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Re: Post Mortem: Hawks v Cards

Post by Donn Beach » Tue Nov 26, 2024 10:41 pm

Mark Schlereth on Geno Smith and the offense. The timing of the offense is off because of the amount of pressure Geno is generally under.
“The timing of the offense is kept at the quarterback’s feet, and when the quarterback’s feet speed up, guess what? He’s off... You’re not going to be on time with the football. You’re going to be ahead, and so then you get to the point where you’re forcing things because things aren’t coming open on time... I just think he’s so sped up that he is forcing the ball, he’s early where the receivers aren’t open yet, and so then he’s just making some bad decisions, throwing into the ‘team meetings’ and such. So I think that’s kind of what’s going on with Geno because of the lack of continuity up front and the lack of protection that you they’re they’re giving him."

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