Post Mortem: Hawks v Cards

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Re: Post Mortem: Hawks v Cards

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Post by Donn Beach » Wed Nov 27, 2024 2:17 am

I could see Grubb tending to the conservative being unfamiliar with both his team and his opponents, offenses are different as are the defenses. And he has stricter practice rules

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Re: Post Mortem: Hawks v Cards

Post by D-train » Wed Nov 27, 2024 2:32 am

Donn Beach wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 2:17 am
I could see Grubb tending to the conservative being unfamiliar with both his team and his opponents, offenses are different as are the defenses. And he has stricter practice rules
Right and the hash mark spacing is also and issue. I think the NFL should switch to the college hash marks. That is the only rule I like better for college.
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Re: Post Mortem: Hawks v Cards

Post by Donn Beach » Wed Nov 27, 2024 3:02 am

And there's the issue of the offensive line. The more sophisticated NFL offenses run a lot of screens, Grubb has been known for his array of screens. It would seem to make sense for Grubb to be using them. But to do that requires the offensive line to play at a high level. Linemen have to be able to sell the screen, grasping the different blocking schemes and all that. They probably have had their hands full just getting the offensive line somewhat competent, let alone install more exotic plays like screens and sweeps. There's been a lot of debate in terms of the relationship between play calling and the line struggling, like with the sacks. Who was it,
Mark Schlereth, commented, if he sees an offensive line giving up seven sacks he looks to the play calling

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Re: Post Mortem: Hawks v Cards

Post by D-train » Wed Nov 27, 2024 3:34 am

Donn Beach wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 3:02 am
And there's the issue of the offensive line. The more sophisticated NFL offenses run a lot of screens, Grubb has been known for his array of screens. It would seem to make sense for Grubb to be using them. But to do that requires the offensive line to play at a high level. Linemen have to be able to sell the screen, grasping the different blocking schemes and all that. They probably have had their hands full just getting the offensive line somewhat competent, let alone install more exotic plays like screens and sweeps. There's been a lot of debate in terms of the relationship between play calling and the line struggling, like with the sacks. Who was it,
Mark Schlereth, commented, if he sees an offensive line giving up seven sacks he looks to the play calling
I am watching Vacation. The scene when Clark jumps into the pool with Kristi Brinkley. I imagine that's how Grub feels jumping into the NFL
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Re: Post Mortem: Hawks v Cards

Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Wed Nov 27, 2024 3:38 am

Yes, the consequences of failing to build an offensive line. It limits the playbook.

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Re: Post Mortem: Hawks v Cards

Post by douche » Wed Nov 27, 2024 3:42 am

“The game of football is won and lost in the trenches. If you can control the line of scrimmage, you can control the game.” — Mike Ditka, Pro Football Hall of Famer and former NFL coach.

“If you’re not strong up front, you’re not going to be successful. It all starts with the line of scrimmage.” — Tom Landry, legendary NFL coach.

“To me, the line of scrimmage is the most important part of football. The team that wins the line of scrimmage wins the game.” — Bill Belichick, NFL coach and multiple Super Bowl champion.

It must be true.

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Re: Post Mortem: Hawks v Cards

Post by auroraave » Wed Nov 27, 2024 2:25 pm

Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2024 9:18 pm
According to this chart, the Seahawks O line is that bad and was that bad two days ago...


Screenshot_20241126-131225_(1).png
Do you think the oline is bad because someone is telling you it's bad, or did you watch the game and come to that conclusion?

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Re: Post Mortem: Hawks v Cards

Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Wed Nov 27, 2024 7:22 pm

auroraave wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 2:25 pm
Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2024 9:18 pm
According to this chart, the Seahawks O line is that bad and was that bad two days ago...


Screenshot_20241126-131225_(1).png
Do you think the oline is bad because someone is telling you it's bad, or did you watch the game and come to that conclusion?
I watched most of the first half. One of the reasons i stopped watching was the O line. Another was the playcalling. Which was the root cause of so many failed run plays and sacks (along with Geno) i don't know. I just know it was unwatchable football.

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