DC fires the OC. LOL

[Sibelius Hindemith]

It's Macdonald's prerogative to implement his philosophy of how he wants the game played. If Grubb wasn't willing to go along with that why would he not want to part ways? Makes no sense. You can criticize the hire but you have to keep in mind that when MM got hired there were very few well-regarded OC candidates still available.

[Michael K.]

Lions O Line coach and a Bears assistant. The Bears? This guy was calling the offense when they scored three points against us. This is what I expect though. No one will want this job. Not anyone that doesn't have something to prove, and there will be reasons they have something to prove. Will just be an MM puppet the way everyone was a PC puppet anyway.

https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/sea ... /#comments

[Michael K.]

It's Macdonald's prerogative to implement his philosophy of how he wants the game played. If Grubb wasn't willing to go along with that why would he not want to part ways? Makes no sense. You can criticize the hire but you have to keep in mind that when MM got hired there were very few well-regarded OC candidates still available.

Of course it's his prerogative. Just like the personnel is Schneider's prerogative. Doesn't stop us from discussing personnel moves. I think it's a bad move, and I think it will deter others from coming here. As soon as we miss the playoffs again? Schneider and MM will need another scapegoat. And this offense? With this dogshit O Line, running the offense MM wants? Aint making the playoffs.

[Donn Beach]

Did you read the smith piece?

The thing is none of this stuff is why MM fired Grubb, he stated himself, there wasn't a laundry list of issues. He fired him because their visions did not align. Their view of the offense couldn't come to agreement. Was that because Grubb was pass Oriented, I doubt it was that simple but It's a perfectly reasonable reason to take a guy off your staff. The 13 Passes In a row deal Is someone's attempt at describing the sort of issues they had, it wasn't a reason to fire him. The reason it would have been an issue isn't the 13 passes, it's that MM met with him after the game to voice his disapproval but it didn't seem to get through to Grubb, that was the problem. Again, that's not saying that was a reason to fire him. But I think it adds up to is a failure to communicate. I think that's what MM was getting at with differing visions. They looked at things in such a way that made communication difficult

[Michael K.]

I think that's what MM was getting at with differing visions. They looked at things in such a way that made communication difficult

It could very well be. Doesn't change my mind. The results were there. No one with a bright future that is in demand is going to now put this job high on their list. Which is why the guy who moved in as the OC in Chicago after Waldron was fired is one of the guys we are interviewing. You know...the guy that scored three points on us a couple of weeks ago? The guy with the #1 pick in the Draft at QB as well as DJ Moore, Keenan Allen, Rome Odunze and Cole Kmet as passing game weapons. That guy. He took those weapons to three points and 122 yards passing!

When Jerry traded Graveman I went on and on about how this looks, what this means to future guys that want to come here. We traded our best reliever for a prospect, one game out of the playoffs. I was laughed at...just pay guys, they'll come. False, Santana just took less money to go somewhere else. The money isn't significant enough to put a dent in it, and there are too many options to go somewhere like this. Call too many pass plays? Gone. It's fucking 2024, not 1984. I posted the data. There were what, four O Lines with a lower win rate in run blocking than Seattle!? So, in his infinite wisdom, our HC wanted us to win games by doing what we don't do well, more. And? When we won ten games with a journeyman QB and shit O Line, where the pass game was top 8 in the NFL? We fired him because he did the thing we do well too much and didn't do the thing we don't do well enough. Genius.

Let's hope the next guy is Schotty. I can't wait to read the game threads in here if that happens again.

[Michael K.]

So, MM and Grubb couldn't communicate, but that has to be Grubb's fault? I don't get this place. How is there zero chance this is on MM? How is there zero chance this is Schneider looking for a way to hide the warts that have been with this team since he took over? The O Line? Nope, the Seahawk organization, which managed to blunder as many Super Bowl titles as they have won, has missed the playoffs three of the past four years and have three playoff wins in ten years made a move...so it HAS to be correct.

I'm done with the topic. I hope you guys are right, and the issue with this team was the OC, and that some brilliant OC is going to jump at the chance to be the next scapegoat and come in and turn it all around.

[trharder]

I'm done with the topic. .

I doubt it.

[Michael K.]

Nice to know some things never change. If anyone but me had said that, would you quote it with a snippy comment? Address the post, or don't. But why do you give so much of a shit about how much I do or don't type, or what I do or don't contribute. You are probably the biggest offender of attacking posters and not the post, at least when it comes to me. I am done with the topic. Contribute or don't, it's your prerogative. But why make that statement? What did it add to any discussion?

[Sibelius Hindemith]

When we won ten games with a journeyman QB and shit O Line, where the pass game was top 8 in the NFL? We fired him because he did the thing we do well too much and didn't do the thing we don't do well enough. Genius.

The Seahawks were 8th in passing yards, but only 20th in net adjusted yards per attempt. They were 19th in rushing yards per attempt.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/ ... 4/#passing

That stat (ANY/A) incorporates sacks and INTs and when you call slow-developing pass plays with terrible pass protection those things are bound to happen more. And Geno ain't no journeyman!

[Michael K.]

When we won ten games with a journeyman QB and shit O Line, where the pass game was top 8 in the NFL? We fired him because he did the thing we do well too much and didn't do the thing we don't do well enough. Genius.

The Seahawks were 8th in passing yards, but only 20th in net adjusted yards per attempt. They were 19th in rushing yards per attempt.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/ ... 4/#passing

That stat (ANY/A) incorporates sacks and INTs and when you call slow-developing pass plays with terrible pass protection those things are bound to happen more.

Someone addressed the yards per attempt the other day. They were near the bottom until we played the Rams backups. They were also 26th or so in run block win rate, so sounds like the play design was actually decent if their yards per carry had them higher than that, no? I don't recall who posted it, and sorry...I've already made trharder mad by commenting again. So, it is what it is. I hope everyone else is right and all the evils of this team have been about the OC. Seemed to work every other time there was a major issue up front, so we fired Bevel, Schotty and Waldron....right?

Works for the Mariners every time they fire a hitting coach. Must be nice to be a GM or Head Coach/Manager in Seattle. Never your fault, just fire an assistant. Most organizations lose good assistants because other teams hire them....we just keep firing them and bringing in others.