DC fires the OC. LOL

[Donn Beach]

I do understand what scapegoat means and I'm saying it doesn't apply. The Seahawks won ten games the roster is not grossly flawed. There was no reason to fire a coach to appease the masses

The O line was a shit show because they added complete slop in FA and missed on all the draft picks. But it is the play callers fault. Starting to wonder about JS. I bet he had a big greasy paw in this decision.

Meant to add how does a shitty oline affect play calling. It going to affect both running and passing isn't it. Grubb called an inordinate amount of passes because of the line?

[Donn Beach]

And is usually the case i really don't care much for calkins opinion. I don't agree OCs are treated like hitting coaches, they are often one step from being a HC, that's a dumb thing to write. I don't understand what his point is, scapegoat? Scapegoat for what, nobody was demanding a firing, they won ten games. That doesn't make sense. He writes articles just to create content. Smith on the other hand i feel delivered a well thought out article.

Agree. Not a fan of his. My posting of ST articles doesn't mean I endorse or agree with them it is just that I know that you cheap bastards can't afford 50 cents a day and I think it is good to have all perspectives presented here even if we don't agree with them.

So, attack the poster and not the post? What did Calkins say that was wrong? Donn says he’s not a scapegoat, but not why he isn’t one, and you don’t endorse what he says, but no reason why other than you usually don’t agree?

Same thing is wrong with this place. People fight people far more than they debate topics.

I did say why he isn't one. A scapegoat is someone that is offered up as sacrificial lamb to angry fans wanting someone to take the hit. Where are these angry fans? Nobody that I know of were demanding a firing. I think fans were generally pretty happy with the season, they won ten games. Sure there were various issues, there are always issues. I think most were surprised with the firing. I don't think anybody was demanding it or any firing

[Donn Beach]

No surprise, but I'm not excited about any of these. The Giants OC? Holy Shit.

Seahawks offensive coordinator search: 7 possible candidates to replace Ryan Grubb
Jan. 7, 2025 at 4:42 pm

Bob Condotta By Bob Condotta
Seattle Times staff reporter
Now that Mike Macdonald has made the first significant change to his coaching staff with the Seahawks, firing Ryan Grubb as offensive coordinator to find someone who he feels more aligned with, who will take over?

Macdonald predictably was vague on the topic when he met the media for his end-of-season press conference Tuesday, though he did say that as of “right now’’ there are no in-house candidates for the offensive coordinator job. That, for now, eliminates offensive passing game coordinator Jake Peetz, who some figured could be a candidate.

So who could be on the list?

Here are seven names that could be considered:

Mike Kafka, offensive coordinator, New York Giants:
Kafka’s name is circulating in large part because he interviewed for the Seahawks head-coaching job last season before it went to Macdonald, with Seattle reportedly wanting to interview him for the OC job before being blocked by the Giants. He played quarterback at Northwestern and briefly in the NFL before entering coaching, spending the 2017-21 seasons working for the Chiefs under Andy Reid and then the last three with the Giants as OC. The Giants have obviously struggled, but head coach Brian Daboll largely runs the offense, and the Seahawks could be impressed by his potential. Kafka, though is already drawing other interest around the league with reports Tuesday night that he will interview Thursday with the Bears and Saints for their head coach openings.

Frank Smith, offensive coordinator, Miami Dolphins:
Smith also interviewed for the Seahawks’ head-coaching job last January and his background could be intriguing given the glaring offensive line and run-game issues. Smith was an offensive lineman at Miami (Ohio) from 2001-03 blocking for Ben Roethlisberger and began his career as the assistant OL coach with the Saints from 2010-14 and has been the Dolphins’ OC the last three years. But head coach Mike McDaniel calls the plays, one reason Smith could be tempted to move.

Mike LaFleur, offensive coordinator, Los Angeles Rams:
LaFleur is another who works for a head coach who calls the plays, in this case Sean McVay. And like others on this list, that could tempt him. LaFleur was the OC for the Jets in 2021-22 before he and the team agreed to part ways. Macdonald and the Seahawks got a firsthand look at LaFleur’s play-calling Sunday when McVay let LaFleur handle those duties with the Rams’ having little on the line. LaFleur is the younger brother of Green Bay head coach Matt LaFleur.

Brian Schottenheimer, offensive coordinator, Dallas Cowboys:
Yes, that’s the same Brian Schottenheimer who was the OC for the Seahawks from 2018-20 before being fired in the wake of a disappointing wild card playoff loss following a 12-4 season because of what Pete Carroll termed “philosophical differences.’’ To repeat a theme, Schottenheimer works for a head coach in Mike McCarthy who calls the plays, and Schottenheimer was said to be popular with players and other staffers during his Seahawks tenure.

Doug Pederson, former head coach Jacksonville Jaguars:
It’s unclear what the future holds for Pederson, who was fired Monday after three years as the head man with the Jags. The 56-year-old was raised in Ferndale and could be intrigued by working for the team he grew up rooting for and getting total responsibility for one side of the ball working for a defensive-minded head coach.

Tee Martin, quarterbacks coach, Baltimore Ravens:
Macdonald knows Martin well as the two worked together in Baltimore during the 2022-23 seasons. Martin guided Tennessee to a national title as a QB in 1998 and played three years in the NFL before entering coaching. His only NFL coaching experience is 2021-24 with the Ravens, the first two as receivers coach. He was the OC at USC from 2016-18 and is obviously well-versed in the John Harbaugh way of doing things.

Josh McCown, quarterbacks coach, Minnesota Vikings:
McCown, the former longtime NFL quarterback whose career spanned from 2002-20, is regarded as a rising star in the business despite having coached for just two seasons. He was Carolina’s QBs coach in 2023 before being fired along with head coach Frank Reich following a 1-10 start. He has earned praise for his work with Sam Darnold this season and is expected to interview for the Jets’ head-coaching job. But if head-coaching jobs don’t materialize, he might be tempted to take an OC position.

Bob Condotta: bcondotta@seattletimes.com. Bob Condotta covers the Seahawks for the Seattle Times. He provides daily coverage of the team throughout the year.

Kafka is an interesting candidate, he was bright when he worked for the Chiefs but somehow got dumb when the Giants hired him. His misfortune was taking a job with the Giants

[Donn Beach]

So, MM and Grubb couldn't communicate, but that has to be Grubb's fault? I don't get this place. How is there zero chance this is on MM? How is there zero chance this is Schneider looking for a way to hide the warts that have been with this team since he took over? The O Line? Nope, the Seahawk organization, which managed to blunder as many Super Bowl titles as they have won, has missed the playoffs three of the past four years and have three playoff wins in ten years made a move...so it HAS to be correct.

I'm done with the topic. I hope you guys are right, and the issue with this team was the OC, and that some brilliant OC is going to jump at the chance to be the next scapegoat and come in and turn it all around.

Maybe it was MM, so? MM is the boss, what's he going to do, fire himself? If things aren't working one of them has to go. And again, this had nothing to do with Grubb being a bad OC. They weren't well suited for each other. And even if Grubb was hired to do a certain thing and was doing it doesn't make him immune from being fired. And It's not going to affect their ability to fill the job at all. Not only was It reasonable but I bet common. Coaches get fired alL the time in all sports, and I'm guessing being a bad fit comes up a lot

[Michael K.]

So, the only option was to fire one of them and start over? Nice to know MM is thst flexible.

[Donn Beach]

If Grubb and MM were incompatible I don't know what other options were available

[Michael K.]

Agree. Not a fan of his. My posting of ST articles doesn't mean I endorse or agree with them it is just that I know that you cheap bastards can't afford 50 cents a day and I think it is good to have all perspectives presented here even if we don't agree with them.

So, attack the poster and not the post? What did Calkins say that was wrong? Donn says he’s not a scapegoat, but not why he isn’t one, and you don’t endorse what he says, but no reason why other than you usually don’t agree?

Same thing is wrong with this place. People fight people far more than they debate topics.

I did say why he isn't one. A scapegoat is someone that is offered up as sacrificial lamb to angry fans wanting someone to take the hit. Where are these angry fans? Nobody that I know of were demanding a firing. I think fans were generally pretty happy with the season, they won ten games. Sure there were various issues, there are always issues. I think most were surprised with the firing. I don't think anybody was demanding it or any firing

This explains a lot. If you think no one was talking about the fact that Seattle has had a dogshit O Line for years, that this year was no different, and that no one questioned John’s ability to build a decent O Line? Than your head is in the sand.

DJ Fluker was here the last time this O Line was even decent. Same GM, but what...on our 4th OC now? Huh. That's odd. Wait, it's Seattle, that's what we do and veryone buys in.

Three out of four years home for the playoffs and over a half decade since we won a playoff game. But if we could just get the right Assistant Coaches...we'd be fine.

[Donn Beach]

So how does firing Grubb show an intention to fix the offensive line? Wouldn't Huff have been a much better candidate if that was the intention?

[Michael K.]

So how does firing Grubb show an intention to fix the offensive line? Wouldn't Huff have been a much better candidate if that was the intention?

Yep. So come out and say it Donn....do YOU actually have an opinion? It is my opinion that JS is SHIT at building an O Line, doesn't pay the right guys, pays the wrong guys, bad drafts, bad signings, you name it. Do YOU believe that the OC has been the problem all along? If so? Then they also suck at hiring OCs.

We've been blaming coaches since Cable was here. The only common denominator in the entire thing is the guy sitting in the FO shit canning OCs.

[Donn Beach]

I have an occasional opinion. I have one now in fact. It's my opinion firing Grubb to appease the critics of JS's inability to build an offensive line doesn't make sense.