Game 10: Seattle Seahawks v L.A. Mutton Chops

[maoling]

Seriously, four picks, even Geno doesn't do that. That is some undiagnosed head injury brain trauma with Sam, and I'm suddenly very concerned about my casino bets for the playoffs.

[Gametime]

Looks like Sam can’t play well when the pressure is really on.

[Donn Beach]

I'm not trying to defend darnold. He looked like a deer in the headlights,? OK, I give the Rams defense some credit for that. The seahawks have been running an aggressive down field passing offense. I think the rams sat down and game planned how to stop it. And I'm including Kubiak. That last TD drive, seemed to me more patient, more underneath. I kinda remember something similar with RW. The let him cook period. Teams adjusted and he started giving up interceptions. He had seven interceptions over four games.

[Michael K.]

I'm not trying to defend darnold. He looked like a deer in the headlights,? OK, I give the Rams defense some credit for that. The seahawks have been running an aggressive down field passing offense. I think the rams sat down and game planned how to stop it. And I'm including Kubiak. That last TD drive, seemed to me more patient, more underneath. I kinda remember something similar with RW. The let him cook period. Teams adjusted and he started giving up interceptions. He had seven interceptions over four games.

Decent point. Even the last drive moving from the goal line to set up the long FG was very methodical. They will adapt. I have more faith in Sam and this staff adapting than I did in Russ and Waldren or Schotty adapting.

[DavidGee24]

Seriously, four picks, even Geno doesn't do that. That is some undiagnosed head injury brain trauma with Sam, and I'm suddenly very concerned about my casino bets for the playoffs.

And worse, none of them were tipped, none of them were the result of Darnold being hit as he threw, and none of them were the result of Ram defenders jumping routes. Darnold threw three of them right at Ram defenders and the first one was a floater.

[Gametime]

I think the bigger Issue I have is the two good defenses he has played he didn't play well, and last night he played horrifically. When the pressure is on he looks like the Sam of old. I like him a ton more then Geno. The big neon light is that he panicked over and over last night. That is very concerning.

I think it was more than just a bad game. I bet they will reign him in more going forward. He now leads the NFL in turnovers. So, last night was a one off. This turnover issue has plagued him his entire career has not left him. That isn't opinion that is 100% fact. He leads the NFL in turnovers, that isn't acceptable at all.

[trharder]

I think the bigger Issue I have is the two good defenses he has played he didn't play well, and last night he played horrifically. When the pressure is on he looks like the Sam of old. I like him a ton more then Geno. The big neon light is that he panicked over and over last night. That is very concerning.

I think it was more than just a bad game. I bet they will reign him in more going forward. He now leads the NFL in turnovers. So, last night was a one off. This turnover issue has plagued him his entire career has not left him. That isn't opinion that is 100% fact. He leads the NFL in turnovers, that isn't acceptable at all.

That would have been preferable yesterday, that is for sure. Nothing kills a drive like a pick, but I have mixed feelings about going conservative
in an effort to reduce turnovers. Blowing teams out has some major advantages, as we saw previously.
Call me "worried".

[Michael K.]

I'm interested to know where everyone stood on this last year? It's funny how Grubb was the root of all evils, but now it's the QB? O Line getting pushed back, before it was on Grubb, now it's not the OC' fault? Unless you had no faith before this game in Darnold and Kubiak, I don't see how this makes this all of a sudden an end of days type issue. Darnold is who he is, but up until yesterday? It was certainly good enough. 4 turnovers is terrible, but we damn near won anyway!

That was one of the best defenses in football, and Sam is who Sam is. The Chargers scored six points against the Jags. Anyone watch the Miami versus Washington Game? How about the Packers against the G Men? The Eagles and Lions combined for 24 points! The Bengals scored 12 against a Steelers Defense that had been very porous this year. Hell, the Steeler defense scored 12 themselves! Non of those horrible offensive performances were against a defense as good as the Rams, IMO....maybe Detroit getting owned by Philly is similar. But we looked LIGHT years better than Detroit did, and that is WITH our QB throwing four picks.

Sam had a bad game, and he is turnover prone. We have known this. We were still a lucky bounce punt away from winning, or a defensive holding call here, or a TD run not being not called back there. All of that was not on Darnold. I agree, an average day out of him and we probably win, but I'm certainly not ready to say that is now what we are.

[trharder]

I'm interested to know where everyone stood on this last year? It's funny how Grubb was the root of all evils, but now it's the QB? O Line getting pushed back, before it was on Grubb, now it's not the OC' fault? Unless you had no faith before this game in Darnold and Kubiak, I don't see how this makes this all of a sudden an end of days type issue. Darnold is who he is, but up until yesterday? It was certainly good enough. 4 turnovers is terrible, but we damn near won anyway!
That was one of the best defenses in football, and Sam is who Sam is. The Chargers scored six points against the Jags. Anyone watch the Miami versus Washington Game? How about the Packers against the G Men? The Eagles and Lions combined for 24 points! The Bengals scored 12 against a Steelers Defense that had been very porous this year. Hell, the Steeler defense scored 12 themselves! Non of those horrible offensive performances were against a defense as good as the Rams, IMO....maybe Detroit getting owned by Philly is similar. But we looked LIGHT years better than Detroit did, and that is WITH our QB throwing four picks.
Sam had a bad game, and he is turnover prone. We have known this. We were still a lucky bounce punt away from winning, or a defensive holding call here, or a TD run not being not called back there. All of that was not on Darnold. I agree, an average day out of him and we probably win, but I'm certainly not ready to say that is now what we are.

This is revisionist history. Last year's meme was "it was the O-line's fault that Geno sucked". Because no one here would share your outrage that
Grubb had been fired, you conflated the two to try and add credibility to your lonesome take.

Was that TD that was called back the hold on Bradford? I kinda forgot about that. They showed a replay and it did not look like a hold at all,
and definitely not one you see get called. We should all be a lot more pissed off about that.

[Michael K.]

It was a hold on some TE I've never heard of. I wasn't outraged that Grubb got fired, I thought it was a ridiculous scapegoat of a guy that was saddled with that O Line and told "run the damn ball" in his first year of calling NFL plays. Sticking up for the OC that was stuck with the below line was somehow a sin in this place.

Last year's O Line -
Charles Cross played 99.73% of the offensive snaps
Laken Tomlinson played 99.7%
Connor Williams played 56.18%
Anthony Bradford played 52.55%
Olu played 39.82%
Stone Forsythe played 37.64%
Abe Lucas played 37.18%
Sataoa Laumea played 32.55%
Michael Jerrell played 22.73%
Christian Haynes played 15.18%
Jalen Sundell played Tackle, and played 5.18%

You are batshit crazy if you don't think Grubb was getting called out all year in here, and you are batshit crazy if you think our offense performs like it has this season with THAT O Line.