Postmortem: Sea v Lambs - The One That Got Away

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Re: Postmortem: Sea v Lambs - The One That Got Away

Post by DavidGee24 » Fri Nov 21, 2025 11:51 pm

Michael K. wrote:
Thu Nov 20, 2025 8:56 pm
DavidGee24 wrote:
Thu Nov 20, 2025 7:56 pm
I think they're splitting carries because Walker is so brittle. If he got the ball 20-25 times per game he'd probably have broken down by now so it probably makes sense even though it seemed like he should have gotten the ball more against the Hams.

That said, in a late-season winner-takes-all or postseason game Walker had better be getting most of the carries, like 75%.
It was a foot injury from last year, and he was babying it in the Pre-Season, and it pissed them off. That said? It shouldn't have taken until late November to realize that Charbo isn't him. Completely ridiculous for them to split carries. It's a trend throughout the NFL, and I am sure guys like Bijan Robinson and K9 are sick of it. Christian McCaffrey has a long list of injuries, and when he is playing? He is the man, it's four or five series before Brian Robinson gets a series.

Barkley is even losing touches this year, so is Henry. The other guys are backups for a reason. 70/30 should be the max, unless the back is banged up. But once a few of them do it and try to justify it by talking about load management? The entire league adopts it. Imagine if the Eagles had a 50/50 split? Sorry, but Charbo shouldn't even be close to half the carries. He is a good backup, that is all. Same with Tyler Algier to Bijan, Brian Robinson to CMC, Ty Johnson to James Cook, etc. But the new trend is so fucking silly. Give your starter a breather, maybe a few third downs, and maybe every third or fourth series. But one to one? Stupid.

Again, it's league wide. It's the same comparison DT used about platooning in baseball. It's what everyone is doing, so everyone does it so they don't have to answer to why they don't. Doesn't make it right.
It's like football's pitch count, except in Walker's case it's like Bryan Woo's postseason pitch count.

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Re: Postmortem: Sea v Lambs - The One That Got Away

Post by Michael K. » Sat Nov 22, 2025 1:00 am

DavidGee24 wrote:
Fri Nov 21, 2025 11:51 pm

It's like football's pitch count, except in Walker's case it's like Bryan Woo's postseason pitch count.
BINGO!

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Re: Postmortem: Sea v Lambs - The One That Got Away

Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Sat Nov 22, 2025 1:15 am

Mac said a few days ago the foot is no longer an issue.

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Re: Postmortem: Sea v Lambs - The One That Got Away

Post by D-train » Sat Nov 22, 2025 2:15 am

Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Sat Nov 22, 2025 1:15 am
Mac said a few days ago the foot is no longer an issue.
lol he is on the injury report today.
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Re: Postmortem: Sea v Lambs - The One That Got Away

Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Sat Nov 22, 2025 5:03 am

D-train wrote:
Sat Nov 22, 2025 2:15 am
Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Sat Nov 22, 2025 1:15 am
Mac said a few days ago the foot is no longer an issue.
lol he is on the injury report today.
It's for a strained buttocks this time.

The inside LB situation is concerning. Jones is questionable with a knee problem and Knight is listed as OUT from the concussion last week.

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Re: Postmortem: Sea v Lambs - The One That Got Away

Post by Michael K. » Sat Nov 22, 2025 5:01 pm

Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Sat Nov 22, 2025 5:03 am
D-train wrote:
Sat Nov 22, 2025 2:15 am
Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Sat Nov 22, 2025 1:15 am
Mac said a few days ago the foot is no longer an issue.
lol he is on the injury report today.
It's for a strained buttocks this time.

The inside LB situation is concerning. Jones is questionable with a knee problem and Knight is listed as OUT from the concussion last week.
This is the week to have that. The Titan offense is offensive.

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Re: Postmortem: Sea v Lambs - The One That Got Away

Post by Donn Beach » Sat Nov 22, 2025 5:24 pm

Fact is the seahawks have been pretty successful relying on depth, they just went through a period where the defensive backfield was mostly depth. Saw a MM comment the other day, he expects the same level of production whoever is out there playing.

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Re: Postmortem: Sea v Lambs - The One That Got Away

Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Sat Nov 22, 2025 7:45 pm

If he expects the same level of play from Connor O'Toole and Chazz Surratt as he gets from Ernest Jones then he is stupid.

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Re: Postmortem: Sea v Lambs - The One That Got Away

Post by 57reasons » Sat Nov 22, 2025 8:47 pm

auroraave wrote:
Fri Nov 21, 2025 4:23 pm
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Most games, Walker is better, but there's been a couple games where Charb is the hot hand and they'll flip
to Walker for no reason. I'd like to see them stick with the guy who's hot for that given game.
Even though Walker is quicker, he sometimes is indecisive and misses the opportunity, where Charb, while
slower, sometimes makes the correct cut like it's drawn up and gets the yards.
And why does Walker always run out of bounds?
^^^^ This. They are complimentary options. What is ALWAYS lost on here is that opposing teams have defensive coordinators. They watch tape on Seattle. They track their tendancies. Seattle knows this. They have to use personnel in ways the defense isn't expecting, counter to their tendancies. The RB group is a perfect example. Different backs will make defenses defend them differently with different looks - based on tendancies. you can exploit that. Seattle also has a strong RB room. Why would you NOT spread it around? Not only does more carries spread around make the number 3 back more experienced and ready should your 1 or 2 go down, it takes hits off of those backs. "Stats" and PFF don't take these subtle nuances into consideration. Walker runs out of bounds so he can get to his phone faster and check his insta feed, is what I am hearing. :lol:
There's one other, perhaps even the main reason, that Charbs gets almost equal carries - because he's SO much better as a pass blocker, he gets equal PT. If it were just about running the ball, that wouldnt be the case. But you cant be so predictable, have to keep your options multiple so the D cant key on either pass or run.

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Re: Postmortem: Sea v Lambs - The One That Got Away

Post by D-train » Sat Nov 22, 2025 10:09 pm

57reasons wrote:
Sat Nov 22, 2025 8:47 pm
auroraave wrote:
Fri Nov 21, 2025 4:23 pm
trharder wrote:
Fri Nov 21, 2025 3:00 am
Most games, Walker is better, but there's been a couple games where Charb is the hot hand and they'll flip
to Walker for no reason. I'd like to see them stick with the guy who's hot for that given game.
Even though Walker is quicker, he sometimes is indecisive and misses the opportunity, where Charb, while
slower, sometimes makes the correct cut like it's drawn up and gets the yards.
And why does Walker always run out of bounds?
^^^^ This. They are complimentary options. What is ALWAYS lost on here is that opposing teams have defensive coordinators. They watch tape on Seattle. They track their tendancies. Seattle knows this. They have to use personnel in ways the defense isn't expecting, counter to their tendancies. The RB group is a perfect example. Different backs will make defenses defend them differently with different looks - based on tendancies. you can exploit that. Seattle also has a strong RB room. Why would you NOT spread it around? Not only does more carries spread around make the number 3 back more experienced and ready should your 1 or 2 go down, it takes hits off of those backs. "Stats" and PFF don't take these subtle nuances into consideration. Walker runs out of bounds so he can get to his phone faster and check his insta feed, is what I am hearing. :lol:
There's one other, perhaps even the main reason, that Charbs gets almost equal carries - because he's SO much better as a pass blocker, he gets equal PT. If it were just about running the ball, that wouldnt be the case. But you cant be so predictable, have to keep your options multiple so the D cant key on either pass or run.
Curious how he pass blocks and gets carries on the same play? Flea flickers?? lol
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