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Re: PFF grades thread
Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2023 3:32 pm
by Sibelius Hindemith
Donn Beach wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 5:30 am
Look at his entire career, he was successful at SC as well. That's pretty unusual really, look at urban Meyer crash and burning. He's a motivator? But that doesn't really win you ballgames
He had about 8 consecutive #1 ranked recruiting classes at USC. Just like Nick Saban at Alabama. And the 2012-2015 Seahawks had 5-6 future HoFers. The problem is you can't recruit players (other than UDFAs) in the NFL, otherwise he probably would have won 7 SBs by now.
Re: PFF grades thread
Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:32 pm
by Sibelius Hindemith
In the NFL, you can't maintain an elite roster due to the salary cap and draft. You have to win in other ways. The Xs and Os matter more and having coordinators that are able to identify and attack the weaknesses of opponents is crucial to success.
Re: PFF grades thread
Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:43 pm
by Michael K.
Sibelius Hindemith wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:32 pm
In the NFL, you can't maintain an elite roster due to the salary cap and draft. You have to win in other ways. The Xs and Os matter more and having coordinators that are able to identify and attack the weaknesses of opponents is crucial to success.
It could be that he doesn’t have those type of coordinators. It could also be that he doesn’t get out of the way. Like ai said, the offense just always seems to be the offense. Waldron made a few changes, and the league adapted….so we are back to running dive plays to set up 2nd and 3rd and long. So crazy. Why draft these backs if you only know how to call two or three run plays? Fuck it, any back in football could get us to second and third and long by running up the Centers ass every first down! Why waste high draft capital?
Re: PFF grades thread
Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:50 pm
by Sibelius Hindemith
Right, with that approach they should at least invest money or draft capital into interior linemen that are kick-ass run blockers.
Re: PFF grades thread
Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2023 5:39 pm
by Sibelius Hindemith
Other than Bradford (69.2), all the Seahawks guards and centers have PFF run-blocking grades in the 50s. Given Carroll's stated offensive philosophy and the types of plays drawn up (ostensibly) by Waldren, that is an utter failure to address a critical aspect of building the roster.
Re: PFF grades thread
Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2023 6:31 am
by Donn Beach
There has been issues with the line, injuries, they have been having to use different combinations. That is the sort of thing I'm not sure pff deals with effectively when it scores individual players
Re: PFF grades thread
Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2023 6:26 am
by Sibelius Hindemith
Grades vs Redskins...
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Re: PFF grades thread
Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2023 12:39 pm
by Sibelius Hindemith
Looks like Peters still has something in the tank.
Re: PFF grades thread
Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2023 12:41 pm
by Sibelius Hindemith
Nice to see that Cross also graded high this week and the guards did alright, but what happened to Evan Brown?
Re: PFF grades thread
Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:35 pm
by Donn Beach
Terms of analytics, thought the range between these two sites was interesting.
I posted this earlier, this NFL analytical site has the Hawks winning the division
NFL win-total projections, NFC: Seahawks narrowly win NFC West; Falcons best Saints in NFC South
https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-win-total- ... e-deadline
On the other hand, there's ESPN power rankings which seems pretty analytical having them at 15th. The 49ers are first even after their losing streak, Eagles are 7th. The Hawks first half schedule is rated one of the easiest while their second half schedule is rated one of the hardest.
https://www.espn.ph/nfl/fpi
The ESPN analytics seem more believable