Postmortem - Hawks v Chardonnay Nation

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Postmortem - Hawks v Chardonnay Nation

Post by auroraave » Mon Sep 08, 2025 1:07 am

So we're out of the gate at 0-1!

Hard to put too much into this game, but overall, this team has a pretty good ceiling and a high floor. Opening against a very formidable division rival and barely losing - not the desired start but this team shows a lot of promise.

I still consider this preseason since I have not seen a complete NFL game from any team in the last ten years before the 4th week of the season - thanks to the Player Union softening practices into flag football territory and the ever shrinking preseason games so we can tack on a 17 and 18th game when no one is watching. It's coming - you know it is. Looking forward to the 19th and 20th games being played in Antarctica at the new 7-11 Slurpee Stadium.

Some key turning points.

On Chardonnay's initial TD drive - two crushing third down conversions - one on a roughing the passer penalty and the other a third and long. Um, I thought that was the old Seahawks? Those two plays gave me major PTSD.

On Chardonnay's game winning drive - the most inept coverage blunder allowed a 45 yard pass play that basically was the nail in the coffin. While the defense was mostly good, there were some incredibly mind-bogglingly immature moments - and some flat out shitty coverage - from a secondary that is supposed to be 'all that' but instead looks NOT ready for Prime Time.

To be fair - they are still shaking the rust off and we will need another 2-3 games to see what we have.

The hand wringing over the offense is going to be super fun to watch on here. Fire Schneider! Dump Darnold! Bring back Russ! I do cherish the utterly hilarious overreactions coming.

Relax. It's one game. If you thought they were going to be lights out right out of the gate and hang a 50 burger on Chardonnay Nation - well perhaps you need to have realistic expectations instead.

Of course they are going to start slow offensively - LOTS of new parts - we're still in 'preseason' mode. While there weren't a lot of highlights, and there was definitely some inconsistencies, the offensive line looked decent and the running backs came to play. No, Darnold is not getting a Canton jacket off of today's game, but once this offense gets going they'll be fine - and by fine I mean a consistent ground game with a complimentary passing game - they won't be Houston's Run N Gun hanging 70 on Oklahoma A & M, but they should be able to manage well once they have time to develop together in concert with the defense getting dialed in.

That field goal before half time was a drive of beautiful execution - Darnold's run was a spectacular play call and executed perfectly - don't forget that - that's a critical two minute drill preview of what their potential can be.

I really hate to say this but SF looked pretty good - and Seattle hung right with them all the way. A rather dull game with a few big plays sprinkled in. Seattle's Achilles heal today was third down conversions and a number of busted coverages - and the inability to contain McCaffrey and Pearsall who may be getting fit for Canton off of today's resume.

Put the razor blades away, stop hand wringing that the undefeated season expectations you laid on the team have collapsed - it's one game showing plenty of potential and also plenty of work to be done.

When was the last time this team really fired out of the gate in week one? I can't even remember. Most games are REALLY sloppy for the first quarter of the season anymore - this has been going on for a while now for those with short term memory loss.

A tough luck loss but not a gut wrenching heartbreaker. Overall, about what I was expecting - a low scoring sloppy battle with just enough plays to make the difference - this time SF made them - but we also handed them those two crushing third down conversions on that first drive and that was the most painful part of the game for me - and that utterly pathetic whiff by Woolen who should be donating his game check to a Blind Man's charity. That was beyond embarrassing.

Rodgers and The Human Personal Foul are gonna torch this secondary next week if they don't get their shit together right quick.

Any word on Emmanwori's status? Another strained labia?

This, too, shall pass.

Go Hawks...

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Re: Postmortem - Hawks v Chardonnay Nation

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Re: Postmortem - Hawks v Chardonnay Nation

Post by trharder » Mon Sep 08, 2025 2:18 am

I agree with most of that. Especially that it's too early to really know what this team will be this season.
In 2020 the Seahawks won their first five games.
My own thoughts about the main subjects.
I never did believe Darnold was going to be special, or even much of an upgrade over Gino. He made a couple plays
today. no picks. Officially he fumbled the game away, but it was pretty easy to see why he fumbled. Greg Olson basically
called him a game manager without calling him a game manager. he's a game manager. The run game will have to be
effective for Darnold to contribute well. Charbonnett is the better back at this point.
JSN is really effing good, but who else is supposed to catch it? When will someone else catch it. Was Horton even in
the game? I did not have paying Abe Lucas a big contract only to see him chumped on the last drive on my bingo card.
The defense looked pretty good most of the time, but this team would need the defense to be top 5 in order to be
a legit playoff team. That's still just a hope and not a reality. Maybe, but not seen today.
Fuck Woolen. I knew he was bulls shit. I swear at time it felt like I was the only one who knew he was bull shit.
Can you just start Jobe? or do they play different CB roles.

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Re: Postmortem - Hawks v Chardonnay Nation

Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Mon Sep 08, 2025 2:22 am

This game was about up to my expectations. The O line still has issues and is not likely to be better than mediocre at any point this season. I mean they're starting a rookie at LG and a 2nd year guy with no previous starts at C so of course they're going to struggle. And clearly Lucas is still getting up to speed.

I was not high on the WR corps and JSN looked like the only starting caliber member of that group, although i expect Horton to contribute at some point. Woolen is no shut-down cover corner and i'm not sure why the CB group was regarded as strong going into this season. Wasn't he a PC project pick due to his speed and length? Maybe they should have traded him to the Raiders along with Geno. And only five defensive linemen? Seriously? There's gotta be more roster moves coming there.

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Re: Postmortem - Hawks v Chardonnay Nation

Post by douche » Mon Sep 08, 2025 2:57 am

auroraave wrote:
Mon Sep 08, 2025 1:07 am
Any word on Emmanwori's status? Another strained labia?
Ha ha. I made a comment years ago in the ST comments section about Hasselbeck's achy vagina and was banned from posting. Too funny.
trharder wrote:
Mon Sep 08, 2025 2:18 am
Greg Olson basically called him a game manager without calling him a game manager. he's a game manager. The run game will have to be
effective for Darnold to contribute well.
Agreed.

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Re: Postmortem - Hawks v Chardonnay Nation

Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Mon Sep 08, 2025 3:45 am

trharder wrote:
Mon Sep 08, 2025 2:18 am
Fuck Woolen. I knew he was bulls shit. I swear at times it felt like I was the only one who knew he was bull shit.
Can you just start Jobe? or do they play different CB roles.
Jobe is the starting LCB according to depth charts. The backups are Derion Kendrick and Nehemiah Pritchett.

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Re: Postmortem - Hawks v Chardonnay Nation

Post by trharder » Mon Sep 08, 2025 12:28 pm

Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Mon Sep 08, 2025 3:45 am
trharder wrote:
Mon Sep 08, 2025 2:18 am
Fuck Woolen. I knew he was bulls shit. I swear at times it felt like I was the only one who knew he was bull shit.
Can you just start Jobe? or do they play different CB roles.
Jobe is the starting LCB according to depth charts. The backups are Derion Kendrick and Nehemiah Pritchett.
Okay, so maybe it's Spoon that's playing the odd CB role. I'll ride with Pritchett over Woolen if that's the choice.

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Re: Postmortem - Hawks v Chardonnay Nation

Post by Michael K. » Mon Sep 08, 2025 2:43 pm

88 yards passing before two desperation attempts because we had to.
3 of 10 on third down.
84 yards rushing
230 total yards
22 minutes we possessed the ball.

Yep, let's all castrate the CB. Jesus Fing Christ.

Only Seattle fans.

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Re: Postmortem - Hawks v Chardonnay Nation

Post by auroraave » Mon Sep 08, 2025 3:15 pm

Michael K. wrote:
Mon Sep 08, 2025 2:43 pm
88 yards passing before two desperation attempts because we had to.
3 of 10 on third down.
84 yards rushing
230 total yards
22 minutes we possessed the ball.

Yep, let's all castrate the CB. Jesus Fing Christ.

Only Seattle fans.

Seattle's offense - a new system with many new parts - struggles against a very good defense in their FIRST game of the season - the first time this offense has gone up against an opposing #1 defense - and struggling in that scenario is not expected? You were expecting their ceiling to be on display? They lost by 4 points. Maybe you ought to reconsider your unattainable expectations as the problem here. Also, why should we not hold Woolen accountable for the biggest blunder of the game? I LOVE how you ignore every single bit of context so you can cling to your narrative of the sky is falling - after ONE game against a very formidable opponent. Your over the top anger just isn't justified.

I'll bet if we just fired Schneider we'd run the tables and hang a Lombardi - right? :lol:

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Re: Postmortem - Hawks v Chardonnay Nation

Post by Donn Beach » Mon Sep 08, 2025 3:23 pm

actually woolen was responsible for two of the biggest blunders of the game, he is a good CB, he did make a great play on the TD pass defection, but those mistakes were inexcusable. Both times he threw basic technique out the window

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