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Well deserved, about time. have to admit i thought he might fall short of the NE exec who also had a splendid year, based on their W-L record jump, so am pleasantly surprised.

. I think JS was considered the favorite. I think how the perception of his off season not being that high but then his nailing it probably impacted it. I was looking at a Cowboys board the other day, grumbling about DeMarcus Lawrence, cowboys players have to play for another team to make a SB. Lot of people weren't very impressed with that signing looking at you SH lol. For me that signing kind of typifies the entire off season. He nailed that addition like he did the entire off season.

Here's something from an article on the signing, I think that says it. I think the perception was the seahawks were in a semi rebuild phase, selling off pieces, treading water waiting for a qb

Lawrence may not have his best football in front of him, but he can still be an important piece to the puzzle for the Seahawks pass rush.

Though some may think that the Seahawks are hitting the reset button and trying to rebuild, signings like Lawrence prove that Seattle is trying to stay competitive in an NFC West that could very well be wide open in the 2025 season

Vabel probably robs MM of coach of the year. There is an assistant coach award, be interesting how Kubiak does

It seemed like an easy one, but before yesterday, all I heard is reasons why he wasn't going to get it.

I thought he would win this months ago into this season - the team was skyrocketing and he's made so many savvy moves the last three years in trades and drafting and coach hiring and roster purging - you could see this coming a mile away. So richly deserved. Now Seattle has to win it all, I guess!

57reasons wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 23, 2026 4:45 am

Well deserved, about time. have to admit i thought he might fall short of the NE exec who also had a splendid year, based on their W-L record jump, so am pleasantly surprised.

He has nailed the past several drafts, and even the old "O Line Stinks" thing can't really be thrown around this year. He made a believer out of me. Thank God Jody extended him....like I said all along!

I honestly wonder how much of the head scratching stuff from before wasn't John? He made some not so great moves in FA last year, Laken Tomlinson, the LBs they ended up getting rid of early in the season, and a couple of others. But of late? I mean, no more LJ Colliers, Germain Ifedis, Christine Michaels, etc. Hell, even the questionable picks were not that questionable. I loved the JSN and Spoon picks, but many wanted guys at different positions. I don't think anyone really said they were bad picks, just thought there were players at positions of more need.

Once they stopped trying to prove that they could do it with out of the box picks? I am really just left to wonder how much of that was Pete Carroll in his ear. Pete had a lot of say over personnel moves for the Raiders this year too.

I know the line hasn't been amazing this year, but that was the turning point for me. This line has been what we have been asking it to be....good enough. I can't wait to see if they can add some talent at C or RG, but you have to like the direction. He deserved this award...and again, this is coming from a guy that was pissed as Hell that we extended him. I didn't want him fired, but thought he'd need a prove it year before getting extended. I guess he proved it, but it was after the extension.

Michael K. wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 23, 2026 10:34 pm

He deserved this award...and again, this is coming from a guy that was pissed as Hell that we extended him. I didn't want him fired, but thought he'd need a prove it year before getting extended. I guess he proved it, but it was after the extension.

I did too.

Michael K. wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 23, 2026 10:34 pm

57reasons wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 23, 2026 4:45 am

Well deserved, about time. have to admit i thought he might fall short of the NE exec who also had a splendid year, based on their W-L record jump, so am pleasantly surprised.

He has nailed the past several drafts, and even the old "O Line Stinks" thing can't really be thrown around this year. He made a believer out of me. Thank God Jody extended him....like I said all along!

I honestly wonder how much of the head scratching stuff from before wasn't John? He made some not so great moves in FA last year, Laken Tomlinson, the LBs they ended up getting rid of early in the season, and a couple of others. But of late? I mean, no more LJ Colliers, Germain Ifedis, Christine Michaels, etc. Hell, even the questionable picks were not that questionable. I loved the JSN and Spoon picks, but many wanted guys at different positions. I don't think anyone really said they were bad picks, just thought there were players at positions of more need.

Once they stopped trying to prove that they could do it with out of the box picks? I am really just left to wonder how much of that was Pete Carroll in his ear. Pete had a lot of say over personnel moves for the Raiders this year too.

I know the line hasn't been amazing this year, but that was the turning point for me. This line has been what we have been asking it to be....good enough. I can't wait to see if they can add some talent at C or RG, but you have to like the direction. He deserved this award...and again, this is coming from a guy that was pissed as Hell that we extended him. I didn't want him fired, but thought he'd need a prove it year before getting extended. I guess he proved it, but it was after the extension.

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Michael K. wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 23, 2026 10:34 pm

57reasons wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 23, 2026 4:45 am

Well deserved, about time. have to admit i thought he might fall short of the NE exec who also had a splendid year, based on their W-L record jump, so am pleasantly surprised.

He has nailed the past several drafts, and even the old "O Line Stinks" thing can't really be thrown around this year. He made a believer out of me. Thank God Jody extended him....like I said all along!

I honestly wonder how much of the head scratching stuff from before wasn't John? He made some not so great moves in FA last year, Laken Tomlinson, the LBs they ended up getting rid of early in the season, and a couple of others. But of late? I mean, no more LJ Colliers, Germain Ifedis, Christine Michaels, etc. Hell, even the questionable picks were not that questionable. I loved the JSN and Spoon picks, but many wanted guys at different positions. I don't think anyone really said they were bad picks, just thought there were players at positions of more need.

Once they stopped trying to prove that they could do it with out of the box picks? I am really just left to wonder how much of that was Pete Carroll in his ear. Pete had a lot of say over personnel moves for the Raiders this year too.

I know the line hasn't been amazing this year, but that was the turning point for me. This line has been what we have been asking it to be....good enough. I can't wait to see if they can add some talent at C or RG, but you have to like the direction. He deserved this award...and again, this is coming from a guy that was pissed as Hell that we extended him. I didn't want him fired, but thought he'd need a prove it year before getting extended. I guess he proved it, but it was after the extension.

I read an article a week or two ago that said last year's FA class was crap because no one was really on the same page because of the lateness of the hire and putting a staff together they really weren't up to that kind of thinking. It took up through the draft and beyond for the staff to have kind of cohesion. Once 2024 started and happened, they brought in the new coaches and really got aligned in last year's playoffs so that by the time 2025 FA hit everyone of the signed players had been vouched for by a staff member before they even started negotiating. JS knew exactly what his coaches wanted and got it for them. I think this kind of cohesion between the field and front office has been a huge leap forward....possibly to a Super Bowl

Bil522 wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 24, 2026 10:55 pm

Michael K. wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 23, 2026 10:34 pm

57reasons wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 23, 2026 4:45 am

Well deserved, about time. have to admit i thought he might fall short of the NE exec who also had a splendid year, based on their W-L record jump, so am pleasantly surprised.

He has nailed the past several drafts, and even the old "O Line Stinks" thing can't really be thrown around this year. He made a believer out of me. Thank God Jody extended him....like I said all along!

I honestly wonder how much of the head scratching stuff from before wasn't John? He made some not so great moves in FA last year, Laken Tomlinson, the LBs they ended up getting rid of early in the season, and a couple of others. But of late? I mean, no more LJ Colliers, Germain Ifedis, Christine Michaels, etc. Hell, even the questionable picks were not that questionable. I loved the JSN and Spoon picks, but many wanted guys at different positions. I don't think anyone really said they were bad picks, just thought there were players at positions of more need.

Once they stopped trying to prove that they could do it with out of the box picks? I am really just left to wonder how much of that was Pete Carroll in his ear. Pete had a lot of say over personnel moves for the Raiders this year too.

I know the line hasn't been amazing this year, but that was the turning point for me. This line has been what we have been asking it to be....good enough. I can't wait to see if they can add some talent at C or RG, but you have to like the direction. He deserved this award...and again, this is coming from a guy that was pissed as Hell that we extended him. I didn't want him fired, but thought he'd need a prove it year before getting extended. I guess he proved it, but it was after the extension.

I read an article a week or two ago that said last year's FA class was crap because no one was really on the same page because of the lateness of the hire and putting a staff together they really weren't up to that kind of thinking. It took up through the draft and beyond for the staff to have kind of cohesion. Once 2024 started and happened, they brought in the new coaches and really got aligned in last year's playoffs so that by the time 2025 FA hit everyone of the signed players had been vouched for by a staff member before they even started negotiating. JS knew exactly what his coaches wanted and got it for them. I think this kind of cohesion between the field and front office has been a huge leap forward....possibly to a Super Bowl

Yeah, I really am fascinated with the MM hire. I keep pondering it terms of a really brilliant JS move. I don't feel like he gets enough credit for it somehow. You look over the coaching cycle from then, like 40% of the hires have already been fired, that was no slam dunk, MM could have screwed it up. But instead I think he came up with what's looking like a premier NFL HC. What worried me about the hire was the six year contract it took. Now that seems like a steal. You're replacing the franchises winninest coach, what are the chances of actually improving on him? And JS looks like he's done it. I really find that pretty amazing. Terms of replacing qbs and coaches I think us seahawks fans are getting pretty spoiled and JS is the one doing it.

Terms of the actual hire, remember they had to wait for the playoffs to play out so other candidates were being picked off. JS was focused on MM and now we see why. And again, a six year contract for a rookie HC, JS was committed and confident. I'm just curious when did the focus begin? They can Pete and then JS begins casting around for a replacement? That seems kind of hard to believe at this point. So was JS looking at MM as a replacement before they canned Pete?

Now to get to how it impacted putting together the coaching staff, holding out for MM put them behind the eight ball. The obvious situation being the Grubb hire. That's really was the glaring issue. I think that was rushed, it was based on the idea that Grubb could become something he isn't. I mean I think there were discussions, the hire was based on an optimism that wasn't realistic. But what do they do, they fix it. Is there some irony to going from canning your OC after one year to possibly losing his replacement to a HC offer the next?

There's a lot of focus on JSs responsibilies with talent evaluation, but what I'm curious about is his impact on coaching. I've always thought of JS as sort of a gym rat talent evaluator but now I'm sensing something deeper. His grasp not just talent but how to coach it, the entire process, from HC down through the coordinators. I'm beginning to believe it's that's genius that's taken them to the ranks of the Rams and 49ers