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Draft pick grades
Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 7:49 pm
by D-train
I pretty much agree with all of these. And once again, thank God for Metcalf.
https://sports.mynorthwest.com/724075/s ... es-at-bye/
Re: Draft pick grades
Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 8:10 pm
by Sibelius Hindemith
Maybe there was a good reason why the majority of scouting reports had Collier going in the 3rd or 4th round. I'm so tired of Schneider's apparent need to to make waves with his first pick. The later rounds are where you are supposed to find hidden gems. He could have found a player that could contribute immediately with that pick and still drafted Collier with the picks he used on Barton or Jennings.
Re: Draft pick grades
Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 8:14 pm
by D-train
Sibelius Hindemith wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2019 8:10 pm
Maybe there was a good reason why the majority of scouting reports had Collier going in the 3rd or 4th round. I'm so tired of Schneider's apparent need to to make waves with his first pick. The later rounds are where you are supposed to find hidden gems. He could have found a player that could contribute immediately with that pick and still drafted Collier with the picks he used on Barton or Jennings.
I can see him doing it one time or even twice but then learning from his mistake. But he does it year after year after year after year. That is the definition of insanity. He literally has never had a good first round pick in the back half of the round. That is crazy.
Re: Draft pick grades
Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 8:20 pm
by Sibelius Hindemith
I'm also wondering why they bothered drafting 2 more WR's after Metcalf when he was the one that fit the need they had for a big body receiver that could stretch the field and fight for balls in the red zone. They clearly had no intention going into the season of giving either Jennings or Ursua a chance to show anything on the field. I mean, if they were so enamored with Moore, Brown, and Turner why add two more guys that were only going to take up valuable roster spots?
Re: Draft pick grades
Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 8:29 pm
by Sibelius Hindemith
D-train wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2019 8:14 pm
Sibelius Hindemith wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2019 8:10 pm
Maybe there was a good reason why the majority of scouting reports had Collier going in the 3rd or 4th round. I'm so tired of Schneider's apparent need to to make waves with his first pick. The later rounds are where you are supposed to find hidden gems. He could have found a player that could contribute immediately with that pick and still drafted Collier with the picks he used on Barton or Jennings.
I can see him doing it one time or even twice but then learning from his mistake. But he does it year after year after year after year. That is the definition of insanity. He literally has never had a good first round pick in the back half of the round. That is crazy.
Carroll has had a part in it as well, I guess. Wasn't he the reason they took Bruce Irvin with the #15 overall pick, because he had some history with him from his effort to recruit him out of high school or something? It was another one of those feel-good picks like Shaquem Griffin, but to do that with a mid-first-rounder is just insane.
Re: Draft pick grades
Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 9:51 pm
by ThePro
Hawks needed to draft everyone of those WR. It's a strength now but it wasn't at draft time.
Re: Draft pick grades
Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:10 pm
by Sibelius Hindemith
ThePro wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2019 9:51 pm
Hawks needed to draft everyone of those WR. It's a strength now but it wasn't at draft time.
I take it that you believe Jennings was just a terrible pick then, because if he wasn't and they still thought that Moore, Brown, and Turner were more valuable assets that would seem to indicate they weren't that unhappy with their WR situation going into the draft.
Re: Draft pick grades
Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:42 pm
by ThePro
Sibelius Hindemith wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:10 pm
ThePro wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2019 9:51 pm
Hawks needed to draft everyone of those WR. It's a strength now but it wasn't at draft time.
I take it that you believe Jennings was just a terrible pick then, because if he wasn't and they still thought that Moore, Brown, and Turner were more valuable assets that would seem to indicate they weren't that unhappy with their WR situation going into the draft.
No I didn't think Jennings was a terrible pick. Once again I don't have the miraculous gift of hindsight 20/20 vision.
Re: Draft pick grades
Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:53 pm
by Sibelius Hindemith
ThePro wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:42 pm
Sibelius Hindemith wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:10 pm
ThePro wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2019 9:51 pm
Hawks needed to draft everyone of those WR. It's a strength now but it wasn't at draft time.
I take it that you believe Jennings was just a terrible pick then, because if he wasn't and they still thought that Moore, Brown, and Turner were more valuable assets that would seem to indicate they weren't that unhappy with their WR situation going into the draft.
No I didn't think Jennings was a terrible pick. Once again I don't have the miraculous gift of hindsight 20/20 vision.
I was asking if you think now (yes, in hindsight) that Jennings was a bad pick. You seem to think that Moore, Brown, and Turner are weak assets so you would have to at least believe that the Seahawks FO felt it was a wasted pick when they decided to cut him in favor of those other guys.
Re: Draft pick grades
Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 11:19 pm
by ThePro
Sibelius Hindemith wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:53 pm
ThePro wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:42 pm
Sibelius Hindemith wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:10 pm
I take it that you believe Jennings was just a terrible pick then, because if he wasn't and they still thought that Moore, Brown, and Turner were more valuable assets that would seem to indicate they weren't that unhappy with their WR situation going into the draft.
No I didn't think Jennings was a terrible pick. Once again I don't have the miraculous gift of hindsight 20/20 vision.
I was asking if you think now (yes, in hindsight) that Jennings was a bad pick. You seem to think that Moore, Brown, and Turner are weak assets so you would have to at least believe that the Seahawks FO felt it was a wasted pick when they decided to cut him in favor of those other guys.
Turner looks like a player.. Jennings is on the Dolphins now so yes it was a bad pick.