Hey look at the huge difference the New OC has made. lolDonn Beach wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:28 amsure, like the defense would suddenly become good if Norton is fired. Not saying he shouldn't be fired, but its not like that is some sort of cure. They have had an entire off season to prepare. What do they do for a DC? You are in the season now, bring guys in and interview them? Begin a new DC approach during a season? You promote a coach into the position, but does that going to make you better? You can certainly blame Pete for not having the foresight to take care of it quietly over the off season, but what does he do now? Firing him would appease the fans but it probably just makes a bigger mess.
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yeah, its probably time for PC to step in and take control again. Go back to doggedly eking out victories, make it back to their first round playoff exit...lol
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I agree there's no way you can pin this on Norton and think PC isn't to blame.HawkandMariner88 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:57 amHow many times do people have to say it.
IT'S NOT KEN NORTONS DEFENSE, IT'S PETE CARROLLS DEFENSE, NORTON JUST CALLS THE PLAYS. ITS ALL 100% PETE.
The most jarring thing is trying to figure out just WTF that defense would look like IF it worked. Are there any personnel in the NFL that could make that work? Regardless of personnel, how is it that the architect of the SB winning era Seahawk defense chooses this style of defense now? Why? Losing is losing no matter how you get there. The players might just not be very good, but how the fuck can that be your stubborn philosophy?
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And Cousins is just an average NFL QB. Couldn't believe how many times I saw Flowers chasing guys like a fat Bull dog chasing a Corvette...Michael K. wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 2:40 pmIt's mind blowing. Cousins completed just under 80% of his passes, but our theory is to leave the WRs open and hope they make a mistake? Ridiculous.
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They played a bunch of teams with bad QB's in the second half of last year. Jarred Goff twice, Carson Wentz, Colt McCoy, Sam Darnold, Dwayne Haskins and C.J. Beathard. Every single one of those guys was dumped by their teams in the off season.
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I was trying to avoid that as an explanation but it is the most obvious one. And even Goff smoked us in the playoffs.Captain 97 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 3:31 pmThey played a bunch of teams with bad QB's in the second half of last year. Jarred Goff twice, Carson Wentz, Colt McCoy, Sam Darnold, Dwayne Haskins and C.J. Beathard. Every single one of those guys was dumped by their teams in the off season.
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You have to give them credit, playing a hybrid prevent D for an entire game is revolutionary cutting-edge stuff.
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Exactly. PC has final say on EVERYTHING football related. It's his roster, his plays, his Kool-Aid. All of it. He'll do everything his way, and nothing's changing in SEA until he's gone.HawkandMariner88 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:57 amHow many times do people have to say it.
IT'S NOT KEN NORTONS DEFENSE, IT'S PETE CARROLLS DEFENSE, NORTON JUST CALLS THE PLAYS. ITS ALL 100% PETE.
As one poster mentioned, Pete does less with more than any head coach in the league. He plays 'not to lose', and he certainly doesn't play to win.
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2nd half... punt, punt, turnover on downs. Brilliant!