Where to go from here.

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Where to go from here.

Post by Captain 97 » Wed Mar 09, 2022 6:47 pm

There is more than one way to skin a cat and I don't believe you necessarily need a franchise QB to win. Russell was basically a game manager the year the Hawks won the Superbowl, finishing 16th in the league in Passing yards. Joe Flacco won with the Ravens the year prior against frickin Kapernick. The Eagles won it all with Nick Foles and the Niners and Rams won the NFC with Garapalo and Goff under center. Even Rex Grossman made it to the Superbowl. I say zig when others zag and try to win now without the big name QB.

Even if they draft a QB this year they aren't going to have a high flying passing game for at least a couple of years anyway (if ever) That being the case, If they want to avoid a full rebuild and try to compete right away, they are going to need to get back to a run first offense and play some tremendous D. I think I would try and see if you can pry the number 17 pick out of San Diego for DK.

Then I would Draft O-line with pick 9, Corner with pick 17. Line backer with pick 40 and D-tackle with Pick 41.

On the FA market I would look at Mariota to come in and be a game manager and target Chandler Jones at Edge, Ryan Jensen at center and J.C. Jackson at corner. They should be able to accomplish that under the salary cap and still have room for Duane Brown, Penny and Diggs if they can convince those guys to come back.

Now on defense you have a killer secondary with Adams, Diggs, Jackson and a 1st round corner. You have a killer D-line with Jones, Taylor Dunlop, Harris and a 2nd round d-tackle. The Linebacking core would be decent with Brooks coming into his own and a high second rounder and they can cobble together the rest with what they have on the roster.

On offense, you have a road grader of an O line with Brown, Jensen, a first rounder at right tackle and Jackson and Lewis at the Guards. Your still crossing your fingers on Carson and Penny staying healthy but if they can, you would have a superb run game. You still have Lockett, Eskridge and Fant as passing threats to keep the Defense honest and be available for deep play action passes.

I think that's a team that can compete for a championship without a marquee QB.

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Re: Where to go from here.

Post by douche » Wed Mar 09, 2022 6:58 pm

Agreed.

Somewhere along the way, Pete lost his focus. Or simply became too arrogant and stubborn. I've always considered this team to be a contender, but PC refuses to adapt, trying to put the round peg in the square hole. And Wilson is (was) expected to pull out a win. It's a bizarre game strategy, to say the least.

Carroll's true coaching ability (or lack thereof) will likely be revealed this season.

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Re: Where to go from here.

Post by seattlefan-daBronx » Wed Mar 09, 2022 7:08 pm

Sounds good Cap.
Now get PC and crew on a Zoom meeting and start working!
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Re: Where to go from here.

Post by D-train » Wed Mar 09, 2022 7:53 pm

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Re: Where to go from here.

Post by D-train » Wed Mar 09, 2022 7:57 pm

Captain 97 wrote:
Wed Mar 09, 2022 6:47 pm
There is more than one way to skin a cat and I don't believe you necessarily need a franchise QB to win. Russell was basically a game manager the year the Hawks won the Superbowl, finishing 16th in the league in Passing yards. Joe Flacco won with the Ravens the year prior against frickin Kapernick. The Eagles won it all with Nick Foles and the Niners and Rams won the NFC with Garapalo and Goff under center. Even Rex Grossman made it to the Superbowl. I say zig when others zag and try to win now without the big name QB.

Even if they draft a QB this year they aren't going to have a high flying passing game for at least a couple of years anyway (if ever) That being the case, If they want to avoid a full rebuild and try to compete right away, they are going to need to get back to a run first offense and play some tremendous D. I think I would try and see if you can pry the number 17 pick out of San Diego for DK.

Then I would Draft O-line with pick 9, Corner with pick 17. Line backer with pick 40 and D-tackle with Pick 41.

On the FA market I would look at Mariota to come in and be a game manager and target Chandler Jones at Edge, Ryan Jensen at center and J.C. Jackson at corner. They should be able to accomplish that under the salary cap and still have room for Duane Brown, Penny and Diggs if they can convince those guys to come back.

Now on defense you have a killer secondary with Adams, Diggs, Jackson and a 1st round corner. You have a killer D-line with Jones, Taylor Dunlop, Harris and a 2nd round d-tackle. The Linebacking core would be decent with Brooks coming into his own and a high second rounder and they can cobble together the rest with what they have on the roster.

On offense, you have a road grader of an O line with Brown, Jensen, a first rounder at right tackle and Jackson and Lewis at the Guards. Your still crossing your fingers on Carson and Penny staying healthy but if they can, you would have a superb run game. You still have Lockett, Eskridge and Fant as passing threats to keep the Defense honest and be available for deep play action passes.

I think that's a team that can compete for a championship without a marquee QB.
Pick 17?????
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Re: Where to go from here.

Post by trharder » Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:33 pm

Whatever happened happened. I think both camps agreed to this and the FO has been planning for this, but they just didn't know where RW was going to end up, because you had to have both interest from a team and RW had to sign off on it.

This FO did this before when they first got here and it turned out well. I don't think finding "the next franchise QB" is going to be the emphasis this year. Remember Tarvaris starting for a year? Maybe not a lot of cap space was opened up by RW leaving, this year, but what about coming years? I think they are going to pay and or keep the guys with value, try to make the defense great again and shore up the trenches.

If the Seahawks suck three years from now and RW has a stellar career in Denver, then obviously Jodi Allen picked wrong. I'm fine with betting on PC and JS as of today. Pete should go back and read his own book "Always Compete". When he says they've been arrogant, that's what he means. They weren't staying true to those principles. I'm always optimistic, but I'm optimistic.

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Re: Where to go from here.

Post by Captain 97 » Wed Mar 09, 2022 9:11 pm

D-train wrote:
Wed Mar 09, 2022 7:57 pm
Captain 97 wrote:
Wed Mar 09, 2022 6:47 pm
There is more than one way to skin a cat and I don't believe you necessarily need a franchise QB to win. Russell was basically a game manager the year the Hawks won the Superbowl, finishing 16th in the league in Passing yards. Joe Flacco won with the Ravens the year prior against frickin Kapernick. The Eagles won it all with Nick Foles and the Niners and Rams won the NFC with Garapalo and Goff under center. Even Rex Grossman made it to the Superbowl. I say zig when others zag and try to win now without the big name QB.

Even if they draft a QB this year they aren't going to have a high flying passing game for at least a couple of years anyway (if ever) That being the case, If they want to avoid a full rebuild and try to compete right away, they are going to need to get back to a run first offense and play some tremendous D. I think I would try and see if you can pry the number 17 pick out of San Diego for DK.

Then I would Draft O-line with pick 9, Corner with pick 17. Line backer with pick 40 and D-tackle with Pick 41.

On the FA market I would look at Mariota to come in and be a game manager and target Chandler Jones at Edge, Ryan Jensen at center and J.C. Jackson at corner. They should be able to accomplish that under the salary cap and still have room for Duane Brown, Penny and Diggs if they can convince those guys to come back.

Now on defense you have a killer secondary with Adams, Diggs, Jackson and a 1st round corner. You have a killer D-line with Jones, Taylor Dunlop, Harris and a 2nd round d-tackle. The Linebacking core would be decent with Brooks coming into his own and a high second rounder and they can cobble together the rest with what they have on the roster.

On offense, you have a road grader of an O line with Brown, Jensen, a first rounder at right tackle and Jackson and Lewis at the Guards. Your still crossing your fingers on Carson and Penny staying healthy but if they can, you would have a superb run game. You still have Lockett, Eskridge and Fant as passing threats to keep the Defense honest and be available for deep play action passes.

I think that's a team that can compete for a championship without a marquee QB.
Pick 17?????
See bold

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Re: Where to go from here.

Post by D-train » Wed Mar 09, 2022 9:17 pm

Captain 97 wrote:
Wed Mar 09, 2022 9:11 pm
D-train wrote:
Wed Mar 09, 2022 7:57 pm
Captain 97 wrote:
Wed Mar 09, 2022 6:47 pm
There is more than one way to skin a cat and I don't believe you necessarily need a franchise QB to win. Russell was basically a game manager the year the Hawks won the Superbowl, finishing 16th in the league in Passing yards. Joe Flacco won with the Ravens the year prior against frickin Kapernick. The Eagles won it all with Nick Foles and the Niners and Rams won the NFC with Garapalo and Goff under center. Even Rex Grossman made it to the Superbowl. I say zig when others zag and try to win now without the big name QB.

Even if they draft a QB this year they aren't going to have a high flying passing game for at least a couple of years anyway (if ever) That being the case, If they want to avoid a full rebuild and try to compete right away, they are going to need to get back to a run first offense and play some tremendous D. I think I would try and see if you can pry the number 17 pick out of San Diego for DK.

Then I would Draft O-line with pick 9, Corner with pick 17. Line backer with pick 40 and D-tackle with Pick 41.

On the FA market I would look at Mariota to come in and be a game manager and target Chandler Jones at Edge, Ryan Jensen at center and J.C. Jackson at corner. They should be able to accomplish that under the salary cap and still have room for Duane Brown, Penny and Diggs if they can convince those guys to come back.

Now on defense you have a killer secondary with Adams, Diggs, Jackson and a 1st round corner. You have a killer D-line with Jones, Taylor Dunlop, Harris and a 2nd round d-tackle. The Linebacking core would be decent with Brooks coming into his own and a high second rounder and they can cobble together the rest with what they have on the roster.

On offense, you have a road grader of an O line with Brown, Jensen, a first rounder at right tackle and Jackson and Lewis at the Guards. Your still crossing your fingers on Carson and Penny staying healthy but if they can, you would have a superb run game. You still have Lockett, Eskridge and Fant as passing threats to keep the Defense honest and be available for deep play action passes.

I think that's a team that can compete for a championship without a marquee QB.
Pick 17?????
See bold
Gotcha. Thanks.
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Re: Where to go from here.

Post by Michael K. » Wed Mar 09, 2022 9:34 pm

Mariotta is interesting. Personally, in your scenario? I would still take Willis. The more I think about what I have seen out of him at Louisville the more excited I am. I don't think he would be as accurate as Russ, but back in 2012 neither was Russ!

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Re: Where to go from here.

Post by HawkandMariner88 » Wed Mar 09, 2022 9:44 pm

Michael K. wrote:
Wed Mar 09, 2022 9:34 pm
Mariotta is interesting. Personally, in your scenario? I would still take Willis. The more I think about what I have seen out of him at Louisville the more excited I am. I don't think he would be as accurate as Russ, but back in 2012 neither was Russ!
Willis is out of Liberty.

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