douche wrote: ↑Wed May 18, 2022 8:22 pm
trharder wrote: ↑Wed May 18, 2022 7:16 pm
auroraave wrote: ↑Wed May 18, 2022 3:01 pm
The number of QB's who can carry an offense without a running game is very small. This notion that Seattle somehow disproportionately runs the ball is simply false....
but there seems to be this myth that he has dragged Seattle along, when I am not sure the opposite can't be argued. The most success Seattle has had was when a strong running game was present - and that is not to take anything away from Wilson's contributions - he's been really good. But for people that actually follow the team - his decline, limitations, and lack of motivation is glaring....
I apologize for nitpicking when I mostly agree with you, but
I often felt RW did basically carry the offense. Not the team mind you, as when they were really good, the strongest component was the defense. As everyone here is agreeing, he did this with his legs, athleticism, hustle, improvisation and arm. Point being, not just his arm. At one point, RW was actually clutch. He would amp up his creativity and running as much as it took, late in a game, to get it done. The most obvious dreadful exception being the game losing pick in the SB. Back in the day, it felt like Pete and JS relied on RW manufacturing offense despite the O-line not being that good, allowing them to concentrate more on fortifying the defense.
Somewhere along the line, RW became less willing to put the game on his back (legs). Maybe it was age. Maybe it's his delusional assessment of his own ability as a pure passer. Maybe both.
Agreed. That season (2017) where he threw a league leading 34 TDs while hampered by injuries was impressive. He certainly carried the team that year.
No question RW has had his moments and carried the offense - he should be lauded for all his accomplishments, absolutely. That was the year he also led the team in rushing because all the RB's were injured. The RB situation was so unsettled as no one knew if Carson would be back, so Seattle went out and drafted the top rusher in the country in Rashaad Penny, a Heisman finalist with no injury history, the same guy some people call one of the worst draft picks. When your top need is an RB and you draft an RB, seems pretty logical. Carson returning and Penny getting injured were not data the team had available at the time. But on here - the meltdowns have been priceless and, as always, never take any context into account. lmao!
Wilson earned his stripes, but ironically, that 2017 season may have been his peak year - soon after he got married and reprioritized his life around her and brand building. Diminishing skills, limited skill set, motivation, all are reasonable fingers to point - but we have not seen that magic, really, since that season. And they only went 9-7 and missed the playoffs! The following year with a monster running game - they went 10-6 and had that puke job vs the Cowboys. 2020 he had that torrid start and fell away half way through the season once 'cover two' was thrown at him and he's never really looked the same since - including that flop vs the Lambs. That was so ugly - not losing, but RW's total lack of preparedness. The team's success has been heavily predicated on a complimentary running attack - and that's not to take anything away from RW's contributions at all, it's just what the stats bear out. Last year Penny carried the load the last half of the season. I've said it a million times, RW was great, until he started checking out for chunks of the season. You cannot justify another monster contract knowing that is a very real possibility. Here's hoping the Donkey's SUCK.