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Post by SeattleAddict » Sat Jul 16, 2022 3:53 pm

You know, you might all be kinda right. I don't think Stafford is all that great (really good, just not in that upper echelon of QBs), but what I think the results have shown is that Goff just kinda sucks. He looked OK for a bit because his supporting cast was so good. When Stafford didn't have the supporting cast, he put up numbers but couldn't win sh**.

Stafford is clearly better, but I'm not sure he's THAT much better. If we were ranking NFL QBs on a level playing field, I think Stafford falls 10-15, while Goff maybe 15-25. That could be either significantly better, or marginally better.

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Post by Donn Beach » Sat Jul 16, 2022 4:04 pm

Don't think Goff sniffs 15

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Post by Donn Beach » Sat Jul 16, 2022 4:19 pm

ESPN qb rankings has Stafford 6th but it's only top 10 so need to look elsewhere for Goff

Profootball network has Stafford 9th, Goff 29th

https://www.si.com/college/cal/news/aar ... ed-no-1-qb

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Post by Michael K. » Sat Jul 16, 2022 4:40 pm

Stafford at 6 and Goff at 29 seems about right.

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Post by D-train » Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:02 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
Sat Jul 16, 2022 4:19 pm
ESPN qb rankings has Stafford 6th but it's only top 10 so need to look elsewhere for Goff

Profootball network has Stafford 9th, Goff 29th

https://www.si.com/college/cal/news/aar ... ed-no-1-qb
RWs last season in the top ten. lol
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Post by trharder » Sat Jul 16, 2022 11:56 pm

D-train wrote:
Fri Jul 15, 2022 9:33 pm
I didn't think Stafford would be enough to put them over the top because while I thought he was better I didn't realize how much better. I was wrong. Dead wrong.
Stafford is not much. Marginally better than Goff. The team got them the SB win. The 49ers almost went to the SB with Jimmy G, except for this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWzfwFWRZzg

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Post by Donn Beach » Sun Jul 17, 2022 2:02 am

If that's the case then why couldn't Goff take the Rams to a SB? Why did they go get Stafford? You're saying they didn't need to? They could have just a<\ kept Goff and won the SB anyway. I doubt many Rams fans would agree with that.

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Post by trharder » Sun Jul 17, 2022 2:24 am

Donn Beach wrote:
Sun Jul 17, 2022 2:02 am
If that's the case then why couldn't Goff take the Rams to a SB? Why did they go get Stafford? You're saying they didn't need to? They could have just a<\ kept Goff and won the SB anyway. I doubt many Rams fans would agree with that.
Well, Goff did "take them" to the SB. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Bowl_LIII
Goff is not very good. Good enough to go 5-4 against the Seahawks, but still not that good. Stafford (3-3 against the Seahawks)
is better than Goff, but not a lot better.

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Post by Mesully11 » Sun Jul 17, 2022 2:07 pm

The thing Wilson and Stafford have in common is that a fantastic defense allowed them to be super bowl champs.

They are both good not great QB's imo.

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Post by Michael K. » Sun Jul 17, 2022 5:52 pm

trharder wrote:
Sat Jul 16, 2022 11:56 pm
D-train wrote:
Fri Jul 15, 2022 9:33 pm
I didn't think Stafford would be enough to put them over the top because while I thought he was better I didn't realize how much better. I was wrong. Dead wrong.
Stafford is not much. Marginally better than Goff. The team got them the SB win. The 49ers almost went to the SB with Jimmy G, except for this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWzfwFWRZzg
Again, what did Stafford do in Detroit and LA compared to Goff? Look at their stats, or better yet, watch a game. The ENTIRE field is in play with Stafford at QB. He changed their offense immensely. Anyone who watches football and watches those two guys throw a football and thinks "yep, they are about the same" is fucking crazy!

I said it when they got him....look the fuck out.

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