Please explain Drew Lock and the Seahawks

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Re: Please explain Drew Lock and the Seahawks

Post by Mesully11 » Thu Aug 04, 2022 1:05 am

I think Pete is looking for a "game manager" like RW was for several years.
Run the ball, control the clock and pass when it is not expected.
Mistakes and turnovers will be the disqualifiers for QB.
Pete wants to run, run, run...

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Re: Please explain Drew Lock and the Seahawks

Post by trharder » Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:56 am

Mesully11 wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 1:05 am
I think Pete is looking for a "game manager" like RW was for several years.
Run the ball, control the clock and pass when it is not expected.
Mistakes and turnovers will be the disqualifiers for QB.
Pete wants to run, run, run...
Lock should look to run as much as possible.

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Re: Please explain Drew Lock and the Seahawks

Post by Donn Beach » Thu Aug 04, 2022 3:10 am

trharder wrote:
Wed Aug 03, 2022 3:43 pm
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Wed Aug 03, 2022 9:17 am
Which the QB competition would hopefully decide... noticed I screwed up the question. It should have read.You think Pete doesn't take the QB competition or Lock seriously?...I thought he was saying Pete had already decided on Geno as his QB.

Pete claims they studied Lock in depth, viewed every throw he has made since college. I don't think they view him as just a throw in. I think they see him as a QB they could fix, mine value
What you are experiencing is cognitive dissonance.
The cognitive dissonance I sense would be Pete trading for a player he doesn't see value in

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Re: Please explain Drew Lock and the Seahawks

Post by Donn Beach » Thu Aug 04, 2022 3:23 am

Mesully11 wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 1:05 am
I think Pete is looking for a "game manager" like RW was for several years.
Run the ball, control the clock and pass when it is not expected.
Mistakes and turnovers will be the disqualifiers for QB.
Pete wants to run, run, run...
Interesting how the Hawks have been one the NFL's most aggressive passing teams, that is explosive plays, Pete loves him a big passing play.

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Re: Please explain Drew Lock and the Seahawks

Post by D-train » Thu Aug 04, 2022 1:34 pm

auroraave wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 12:08 am
D-train wrote:
Wed Aug 03, 2022 10:43 pm
Actually I am going to call it. This will be the first time ever the M's and Hawks both make the playoffs the same year. Now I prob jinxed them both and they will both miss. lol
Oh, man, I'd take that bet. I don't think Seahawks have the horses or experience to make it - not a knock on them, but they just don't quite have the talent. If they had a rockstar QB I'd like their chances more - but we saw that even wilson could not drag this team anywhere - even when they had more talent. Also, not a big fan of the Mariners trade for the Cinci guy - always love another arm, but this feels like a desperation move to eke into the playoffs this year - and they have one of the best farm systems in the entire league - to purge a bunch of young talent to acquire an arm that is not likely to help carry them anywhere, as far as a real playoff run, I think was a big mistake. Keep the minors stacked, the team seems to be needing offense more. Odd move. They've already shown they won't get past Houston. Feels like they jumped the shark for optics. "making it" to the playoffs, only to get bounced out early, while giving up all that young talent - just such a mariner move.
Saying they aren't going to make the playoffs is clearly the easy safe prudent bet. I am none of those. lol
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Re: Please explain Drew Lock and the Seahawks

Post by D-train » Thu Aug 04, 2022 1:43 pm

Tide is turning boys.
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Re: Please explain Drew Lock and the Seahawks

Post by D-train » Thu Aug 04, 2022 1:46 pm

By Bob Condotta
Seattle Times staff reporter
RENTON — The Seahawks’ sixth practice of training camp was one that could be judged almost more by what was felt and heard as much as what could be seen.

In the second practice in shoulder pads and hitting, Seattle emphasized running and short-yardage situations while also mixing in the usual passing sessions.

The one constant was hitting.

“That was a point of emphasis coming in,” said linebacker Uchenna Nwosu. “The offense, they won yesterday. So we felt like today, defensively, we had to get a little revenge. So we made a point to come out here and be physical today.”

The defense undoubtedly was.

But in what might be the kind of practices the coaches call perfect, it was hard to see if the offense or defense had the upper hand in the end as each made their share of big plays.

The hitting — and now that camp is a week old — also led to some tempers flaring.

In what was the most significant tussle of camp, running back DeeJay Dallas was escorted off the field late in practice after rushing in to defend his offensive teammate Travis Homer, who he also played with at the University of Miami, after Homer took a hard shot from Bubba Bolden. Interestingly, Bolden also played at Miami, though he didn’t arrive until after Homer’s final season there in 2018.

The hit was unquestionably hard but also appeared clean. Still, Dallas raced down the field to get at Bolden, which led to other teammates entering the fray and a big scrum developing. Coaches quickly regained control. But Dallas was then led off the field, with practice already nearing its end.

Dallas had played well until then, scoring a TD on a 26-yard pass from Lock and then also scoring a TD on a 36-yard run on which he outraced Bolden to the end zone with Dallas tossing the ball his direction after he scored.

That pass was one of several nice throws Lock, who again worked exclusively behind the second team offensive line with Geno Smith again running the first team, had on the day, including about a 40-yarder early on to rookie Bo Melton.

But Smith had his share, as well, including a crossing pattern early on to Tyler Lockett for about a 30-yard gain and then later in practice about a 25-yard gain on a fade route to DK Metcalf, who was closely guarded by rookie Tariq Woolen. Woolen got ample work with the first team defense at right cornerback with Artie Burns getting a day off, alternating throughout with fellow rookie Coby Bryant.

But if the coverage by Woolen was good, the throw and catch were better on a day when the offense turned in its most big plays in the passing game as has been seen all camp.

Smith and Lock, however, also each threw interceptions, though each came with something of an asterisk.

Smith threw a pick after he was whistled as down via sack but then decided to throw the ball anyway to the sideline in the direction of Metcalf. Bryant stepped in front of the errant pass for the pick.

Lock later had an interception on a go route when he threw to the outside of receiver Marquise Goodwin, with Goodwin appearing to expect the ball on the inside. The pass instead went straight to cornerback Michael Jackson.

But capping what might have been the best practice all camp for the offense, Smith finished it off with three straight completions in a third down drill that all went for first downs — two to Lockett and another to Metcalf, all against coverage from Bryant.

The Seahawks have Thursday off before turning to practice Friday and then holding their mock game Saturday at Lumen Field.

By the sound of things Wednesday, the day of rest will be much appreciated.

Notes
Head coach Pete Carroll was again absent after testing positive for COVID-19 Sunday. He could be back by Friday, by which point he would have had the NFL-mandated five days of isolation.
Starting left cornerback Sidney Jones was not on the field for the final few sessions and walked into the locker room with a trainer right as practice ended. It was unclear what any injury he might have had would have been. Practice ended with both rookie corners working with the starting defense — Bryant on the left side and Woolen on the right.
The Seahawks were especially thin in the secondary with safety Ryan Neal sitting out after suffering an apparent leg/foot injury, Ugo Amadi also missing his second straight practice for unknown reasons and Marquise Blair appearing just to get a day off. That had Josh Jones again getting a lot of work with the first defense, rotating in with Jamal Adams and at times on the field in specialty packages. Jones levied a few big hits early on. Rookie Joey Blount was also held out.
Middle linebacker Jordyn Brooks also got what appeared to just be a rest day. With Brooks out, Iggy Iyiegbuniwe got a lot of work with the first defense at inside linebacker along with Cody Barton.
Rashaad Penny got what appeared to be a rest day which had rookie Ken Walker III getting the first snaps at running back with the first-team offense. Walker had several nice runs during the early run periods.
Stone Forsythe got all the snaps with the first-team offense at right tackle with Jake Curhan working at right guard with the Seahawks giving veteran guards Gabe Jackson and Damien Lewis an apparent rest day. That meant the first OL was, from left to right, Forsythe, Curhan, Austin Blythe, Phil Haynes and Charles Cross. Rookie Abraham Lucas of WSU continues to work exclusively with the second unit at right tackle.
Dee Eskridge was in pads but again did not take part in any drills. He has not practiced since the first day a week ago Wednesday due to a tight hamstring. Eskridge did do work on the jugs machine after practice.
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Re: Please explain Drew Lock and the Seahawks

Post by auroraave » Thu Aug 04, 2022 5:05 pm

D-train wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 1:34 pm
auroraave wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 12:08 am
D-train wrote:
Wed Aug 03, 2022 10:43 pm
Actually I am going to call it. This will be the first time ever the M's and Hawks both make the playoffs the same year. Now I prob jinxed them both and they will both miss. lol
Oh, man, I'd take that bet. I don't think Seahawks have the horses or experience to make it - not a knock on them, but they just don't quite have the talent. If they had a rockstar QB I'd like their chances more - but we saw that even wilson could not drag this team anywhere - even when they had more talent. Also, not a big fan of the Mariners trade for the Cinci guy - always love another arm, but this feels like a desperation move to eke into the playoffs this year - and they have one of the best farm systems in the entire league - to purge a bunch of young talent to acquire an arm that is not likely to help carry them anywhere, as far as a real playoff run, I think was a big mistake. Keep the minors stacked, the team seems to be needing offense more. Odd move. They've already shown they won't get past Houston. Feels like they jumped the shark for optics. "making it" to the playoffs, only to get bounced out early, while giving up all that young talent - just such a mariner move.
Saying they aren't going to make the playoffs is clearly the easy safe prudent bet. I am none of those. lol
It's not the safe bet, but the logical one. On the other hand, the way they are being constructed is ideal for keeping games close and potentially sneaking into the playoffs - they have a really deep RB room, Penny, Eskridge, Homer, DJ Dallas, Ken Walker, they could run wild - and then you factor in DK, Tyler, that tight end group - that is really formidable. Getting to nine wins would not be the biggest shocker. There is speed all over this team. I think they are 1-2 years away, in concert with the decline of the rest of the NFC West, but the foundation looks really good so far.

I still think your a closet predentite. :D #newwordalert!

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Re: Please explain Drew Lock and the Seahawks

Post by D-train » Thu Aug 04, 2022 6:14 pm

Yeah if I would win $1M dollars if I was right I would likely have a different prediction. lol Just being a fanatic which precludes logic most of the time.
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Re: Please explain Drew Lock and the Seahawks

Post by auroraave » Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:17 pm

D-train wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 6:14 pm
Yeah if I would win $1M dollars if I was right I would likely have a different prediction. lol Just being a fanatic which precludes logic most of the time.
You should lay a bet in Vegas. Put down $100.

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