Welcome to the Lock and Load! era of Seahawks football

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Re: Welcome to the Lock and Load! era of Seahawks football

Post by Walla Walla Dawg II » Mon Aug 08, 2022 2:56 pm

D-train wrote:
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This is because Wilson couldn't see over the middle!!
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Re: Welcome to the Lock and Load! era of Seahawks football

Post by Michael K. » Mon Aug 08, 2022 4:24 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
Mon Aug 08, 2022 3:12 am
Bell from earlier on Lock's gun slinging ways. Lock really isn't the sort of QB you might think Pete would go with, a game manager he is not.

What Pete had to say about Lock after the infamous interception earlier in camp
After Lock’s trying-to-do-too-much gaffe, Carroll had seen enough. He had his assistant blow three horns to end the practice.

“I’m really glad that play happened in the first practice, because that was as bad of a play as you make,” Carroll said Friday. “He’s running over here, and he threw the ball over there, and it was a terrible play. And it was so obvious. It was like ‘OK, that’s the example of what we’re never going to do again.’

“He has some gunslinger in him.”

“That’s how he’s played his whole career,” Carroll of Lock, Denver’s second-round pick out of Missouri in 2019. “You go all the way back, I’ve seen all his college stuff, he’s made a million big plays and a million special plays, on the move, in the pocket, any which way you look at it.

“So, we have to see how that all fits with us, and when he makes his choices to go for it, does he come through or not? And so far, he’s done a pretty darn good job. He’s been very effective when he’s moving out of the pocket.”
https://amp.thenewstribune.com/sports/n ... 38881.html

If Pete does make a productive QB out of Lock that be an interesting addition to his coaching resume
Oh, so you are good with him calling him out after a bad play in practice? Just not for admitting when he played well? Why didn't that crusty fuck Pete have to check the tape before the quite you posted? More bullshit from a guy I am afraid the game has passed by. THIS is not a QB competition. He loves him some Gino, and again, even of Lock FINALLY wins the job, we will still be hearing five or six weeks in how they haven't opened up the play book because of a lack of reps Lock had with the starters. As if it was just dumb luck that he didn't get reps and not some grump old fuck with a man crush over a guy who has been with him several years.

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Re: Welcome to the Lock and Load! era of Seahawks football

Post by D-train » Mon Aug 08, 2022 5:05 pm

Michael K. wrote:
Mon Aug 08, 2022 4:24 pm
Donn Beach wrote:
Mon Aug 08, 2022 3:12 am
Bell from earlier on Lock's gun slinging ways. Lock really isn't the sort of QB you might think Pete would go with, a game manager he is not.

What Pete had to say about Lock after the infamous interception earlier in camp
After Lock’s trying-to-do-too-much gaffe, Carroll had seen enough. He had his assistant blow three horns to end the practice.

“I’m really glad that play happened in the first practice, because that was as bad of a play as you make,” Carroll said Friday. “He’s running over here, and he threw the ball over there, and it was a terrible play. And it was so obvious. It was like ‘OK, that’s the example of what we’re never going to do again.’

“He has some gunslinger in him.”

“That’s how he’s played his whole career,” Carroll of Lock, Denver’s second-round pick out of Missouri in 2019. “You go all the way back, I’ve seen all his college stuff, he’s made a million big plays and a million special plays, on the move, in the pocket, any which way you look at it.

“So, we have to see how that all fits with us, and when he makes his choices to go for it, does he come through or not? And so far, he’s done a pretty darn good job. He’s been very effective when he’s moving out of the pocket.”
https://amp.thenewstribune.com/sports/n ... 38881.html

If Pete does make a productive QB out of Lock that be an interesting addition to his coaching resume
Oh, so you are good with him calling him out after a bad play in practice? Just not for admitting when he played well? Why didn't that crusty fuck Pete have to check the tape before the quite you posted? More bullshit from a guy I am afraid the game has passed by. THIS is not a QB competition. He loves him some Gino, and again, even of Lock FINALLY wins the job, we will still be hearing five or six weeks in how they haven't opened up the play book because of a lack of reps Lock had with the starters. As if it was just dumb luck that he didn't get reps and not some grump old fuck with a man crush over a guy who has been with him several years.
lol Reminds me of the M's and not having their starters ready to pitch a reasonable number of innings and then having to trade for another starter and then claim a huge victory like an Arsonist that saved people from a burning building that he had set on fire 15 minutes earlier. lol
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Re: Welcome to the Lock and Load! era of Seahawks football

Post by Donn Beach » Mon Aug 08, 2022 7:52 pm

Terms of the game passing Pete by, going to be interesting how this plays out. PCJS take gambles and I see this as another one of them.

I wonder how really significant the scrimmage was. I would bet Lock had impressive scrimmages with the Broncos. The guy has talent, that's what I'm beginning to understand. The issue has been his decision making. I don't know if that was tested, and I would think you would have to analyze it to understand

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Re: Welcome to the Lock and Load! era of Seahawks football

Post by douche » Mon Aug 08, 2022 8:12 pm

D-train wrote:
Mon Aug 08, 2022 10:49 am
Donn Beach wrote:
Mon Aug 08, 2022 4:41 am
From his Walters football college profile, interesting he had revolving door coaching issues at Missouri, then again with Denver didn't he? His Senior Bowl performance is noted
. Lock is a gunslinger-style quarterback who has a big arm with the ability to throw any pass. His powerful arm allows him to fire the ball into tight windows for completions as the velocity of his throws is capable of beating coverage. He throws the ball well downfield and shows timing and anticipation. Along with his arm, Lock is a better athlete than one would expect. Scouts say that comes across the more one watches him, and his athleticism is a surprising plus for the big-armed quarterback. Lock also has above-average accuracy and showed improvement as a senior. He can throw receivers open and doesn't miss open receivers. His field vision is advanced, too, as he moves his eyes to work through progressions and does not lock onto his primary target.

There are a number of things that Lock needs to improve upon for the NFL. He suffers from what I call "big-arm syndrome," meaning he can have some flaws in decision-making because he trusts his arm too much. That led to him throwing some passes he shouldn't into coverage. Lock also could use some tutoring and mentoring because he was not coached up at Missouri. The Tigers had a revolving door at offensive coordinator, and sources say there are some basic things that Lock needs to pick up. However, they say he is smart and picked things up fast at the Senior Bowl. Sources say that of all the potential first-round quarterbacks in the 2019 NFL Draft, Lock has received the least amount of coaching and development.
With how Pete was chatting Lock up, the first qb pick in the draft and all that, there could be truth to it. The guy does sound talented. The issues seem to come down to coaching, could Pete turn that around?
Very possible that If RW went through what Lock did at Denver when he broke in he might be out of football right now or certainly FAR below HOF level career.
https://broncoswire.usatoday.com/2022/0 ... son-trade/

From the article:

Over a three-year period, Lock went 8-13 in Denver.

Granted, the 25-year-old quarterback has plenty of excuses, as his die-hard fans are quick to point out. The Broncos fired Lock’s offensive coordinator after his rookie season, and COVID-19 made the 2020 offseason more difficult. Pat Shurmur, the team’s offensive coordinator from 2020-2021, failed to get the best out of Lock and many of his teammates.

That’s all true. And Lock’s hardships in Denver don’t all fall on him. But the quarterback was far from perfect, throwing 20 interceptions and fumbling 13 times in 24 career games. His high-risk style would have been more tolerable if rewards were more frequently, but he only scored 30 touchdowns. That’s not enough to offset all the turnover-worthy plays.


Perhaps all this guy needs is some coaching consistency. Can PC make that happen? Stay tuned.

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Re: Welcome to the Lock and Load! era of Seahawks football

Post by D-train » Mon Aug 08, 2022 10:22 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
Mon Aug 08, 2022 7:52 pm
Terms of the game passing Pete by, going to be interesting how this plays out. PCJS take gambles and I see this as another one of them.

I wonder how really significant the scrimmage was. I would bet Lock had impressive scrimmages with the Broncos. The guy has talent, that's what I'm beginning to understand. The issue has been his decision making. I don't know if that was tested, and I would think you would have to analyze it to understand
I watched about every play of and his decision making looked solid. Went through his progressions, went for it when it was there and checked down when it wasn't. No idea why PC had to watch it more than once.
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Re: Welcome to the Lock and Load! era of Seahawks football

Post by D-train » Mon Aug 08, 2022 10:23 pm

douche wrote:
Mon Aug 08, 2022 8:12 pm
D-train wrote:
Mon Aug 08, 2022 10:49 am
Donn Beach wrote:
Mon Aug 08, 2022 4:41 am
From his Walters football college profile, interesting he had revolving door coaching issues at Missouri, then again with Denver didn't he? His Senior Bowl performance is noted



With how Pete was chatting Lock up, the first qb pick in the draft and all that, there could be truth to it. The guy does sound talented. The issues seem to come down to coaching, could Pete turn that around?
Very possible that If RW went through what Lock did at Denver when he broke in he might be out of football right now or certainly FAR below HOF level career.
https://broncoswire.usatoday.com/2022/0 ... son-trade/

From the article:

Over a three-year period, Lock went 8-13 in Denver.

Granted, the 25-year-old quarterback has plenty of excuses, as his die-hard fans are quick to point out. The Broncos fired Lock’s offensive coordinator after his rookie season, and COVID-19 made the 2020 offseason more difficult. Pat Shurmur, the team’s offensive coordinator from 2020-2021, failed to get the best out of Lock and many of his teammates.

That’s all true. And Lock’s hardships in Denver don’t all fall on him. But the quarterback was far from perfect, throwing 20 interceptions and fumbling 13 times in 24 career games. His high-risk style would have been more tolerable if rewards were more frequently, but he only scored 30 touchdowns. That’s not enough to offset all the turnover-worthy plays.


Perhaps all this guy needs is some coaching consistency. Can PC make that happen? Stay tuned.
All those Fumbles are crazy. Seems correctable though.
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Re: Welcome to the Lock and Load! era of Seahawks football

Post by D-train » Mon Aug 08, 2022 10:25 pm

douche wrote:
Mon Aug 08, 2022 8:12 pm
D-train wrote:
Mon Aug 08, 2022 10:49 am
Donn Beach wrote:
Mon Aug 08, 2022 4:41 am
From his Walters football college profile, interesting he had revolving door coaching issues at Missouri, then again with Denver didn't he? His Senior Bowl performance is noted



With how Pete was chatting Lock up, the first qb pick in the draft and all that, there could be truth to it. The guy does sound talented. The issues seem to come down to coaching, could Pete turn that around?
Very possible that If RW went through what Lock did at Denver when he broke in he might be out of football right now or certainly FAR below HOF level career.
https://broncoswire.usatoday.com/2022/0 ... son-trade/

From the article:

Over a three-year period, Lock went 8-13 in Denver.

Granted, the 25-year-old quarterback has plenty of excuses, as his die-hard fans are quick to point out. The Broncos fired Lock’s offensive coordinator after his rookie season, and COVID-19 made the 2020 offseason more difficult. Pat Shurmur, the team’s offensive coordinator from 2020-2021, failed to get the best out of Lock and many of his teammates.

That’s all true. And Lock’s hardships in Denver don’t all fall on him. But the quarterback was far from perfect, throwing 20 interceptions and fumbling 13 times in 24 career games. His high-risk style would have been more tolerable if rewards were more frequently, but he only scored 30 touchdowns. That’s not enough to offset all the turnover-worthy plays.


Perhaps all this guy needs is some coaching consistency. Can PC make that happen? Stay tuned.
That is actually pretty contradictory. Mention all the challenges he had and then say it is his fault that he went with a high risk style. Maybe he went with that style because of all the issues. :idea: :shock:
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Re: Welcome to the Lock and Load! era of Seahawks football

Post by D-train » Mon Aug 08, 2022 11:18 pm

Hope you guys enjoy reading this as much as I enjoyed tweeting it. lol
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Re: Welcome to the Lock and Load! era of Seahawks football

Post by douche » Mon Aug 08, 2022 11:22 pm

D-train wrote:
Mon Aug 08, 2022 10:25 pm
douche wrote:
Mon Aug 08, 2022 8:12 pm
D-train wrote:
Mon Aug 08, 2022 10:49 am


Very possible that If RW went through what Lock did at Denver when he broke in he might be out of football right now or certainly FAR below HOF level career.
https://broncoswire.usatoday.com/2022/0 ... son-trade/

From the article:

Over a three-year period, Lock went 8-13 in Denver.

Granted, the 25-year-old quarterback has plenty of excuses, as his die-hard fans are quick to point out. The Broncos fired Lock’s offensive coordinator after his rookie season, and COVID-19 made the 2020 offseason more difficult. Pat Shurmur, the team’s offensive coordinator from 2020-2021, failed to get the best out of Lock and many of his teammates.

That’s all true. And Lock’s hardships in Denver don’t all fall on him. But the quarterback was far from perfect, throwing 20 interceptions and fumbling 13 times in 24 career games. His high-risk style would have been more tolerable if rewards were more frequently, but he only scored 30 touchdowns. That’s not enough to offset all the turnover-worthy plays.


Perhaps all this guy needs is some coaching consistency. Can PC make that happen? Stay tuned.
That is actually pretty contradictory. Mention all the challenges he had and then say it is his fault that he went with a high risk style. Maybe he went with that style because of all the issues. :idea: :shock:
I was thinking the same thing.

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