Would you bring back Russell Wilson in 2025?

[Seattle or Bust]

He's currently 2nd in the NFL in yards per game at 271.

At his TD pace, he'd be at 20 TD's if he had played the full 12-game slate which would put him at a tie for 6th in the NFL. His TD/INT ratio over 12 games would be 20/6.

He's being sacked at pretty much the same rate as Geno... would be at 36 sacks over 12 games. So no, he's not really getting better protection.

He's 5th in the NFL in rating.

Could maybe be had somewhat cheaply on like a 2-year deal.

IMO, he's way better than Geno. More experienced winner too -

[Sibelius Hindemith]

On what basis do you claim he is way better than Gino?

[Captain 97]

I Think Russell has a lot of good football left in him if he is in the right system. I don't think Grubb's system is one he can excel in.
Grubb needs a pocket passer who is precise with the mid range throws over the middle of the field. That is not what Russ does well. Russ thrives on the play action, getting out on the edge and making throws on the run.

[Seattle or Bust]

On what basis do you claim he is way better than Gino?

Geno is in the bottom-10 of the league among QB's in efficiency statistics. Russ is top-10.

Geno and Russ are getting sacked at more or less the same rate.

Russ is well out performing Geno despite the same problems with pass protection.

Should I say it in Spanish?

[Seattle or Bust]

I Think Russell has a lot of good football left in him if he is in the right system. I don't think Grubb's system is one he can excel in.
Grubb needs a pocket passer who is precise with the mid range throws over the middle of the field. That is not what Russ does well. Russ thrives on the play action, getting out on the edge and making throws on the run.

Certainly possible.

Geno cannot be the answer if that's the criteria for a QB. Bro couldn't command a pocket if he was wearing jeans.

[Sibelius Hindemith]

On what basis do you claim he is way better than Gino?

Geno is in the bottom-10 of the league among QB's in efficiency statistics. Russ is top-10.

Geno and Russ are getting sacked at more or less the same rate.

Russ is well out performing Geno despite the same problems with pass protection.

Should I say it in Spanish?

Steelers' O line is ranked middle of the pack in pass blocking and Seahawks' is near the bottom.
A good comparison would be Russ' last season here vs Geno 's first as a starter (the following season).

[Michael K.]

I Think Russell has a lot of good football left in him if he is in the right system. I don't think Grubb's system is one he can excel in.
Grubb needs a pocket passer who is precise with the mid range throws over the middle of the field. That is not what Russ does well. Russ thrives on the play action, getting out on the edge and making throws on the run.

I agree. The system is a big deal for any QB, but more so for someone that is a big challenged in the middle of the field, like Russ. One thing that shocked the crap out of me was watching Nix last night. Didn't that offense last night look like one that Russ could and should have succeeded in? I wonder if his pride was just to broken in Denver? Went there thinking he was going to be the Man, got everyone fired because he wasn't, had a new coach come in that after just a couple of weeks basically gave up on him, and he gets benched so he won't hit salary escalators. Then? Many think that the Steelers are better off with Fields? He HAD to have just decided he was going to get it done. If nothing else, he is a very prideful competitor.

[D-train]

He's currently 2nd in the NFL in yards per game at 271.

At his TD pace, he'd be at 20 TD's if he had played the full 12-game slate which would put him at a tie for 6th in the NFL. His TD/INT ratio over 12 games would be 20/6.

He's being sacked at pretty much the same rate as Geno... would be at 36 sacks over 12 games. So no, he's not really getting better protection.

He's 5th in the NFL in rating.

Could maybe be had somewhat cheaply on like a 2-year deal.

IMO, he's way better than Geno. More experienced winner too -

Why wouldn't he just stay with the Steelers. NFW JS would bring him back.

[Captain 97]

I Think Russell has a lot of good football left in him if he is in the right system. I don't think Grubb's system is one he can excel in.
Grubb needs a pocket passer who is precise with the mid range throws over the middle of the field. That is not what Russ does well. Russ thrives on the play action, getting out on the edge and making throws on the run.

I agree. The system is a big deal for any QB, but more so for someone that is a big challenged in the middle of the field, like Russ. One thing that shocked the crap out of me was watching Nix last night. Didn't that offense last night look like one that Russ could and should have succeeded in? I wonder if his pride was just to broken in Denver? Went there thinking he was going to be the Man, got everyone fired because he wasn't, had a new coach come in that after just a couple of weeks basically gave up on him, and he gets benched so he won't hit salary escalators. Then? Many think that the Steelers are better off with Fields? He HAD to have just decided he was going to get it done. If nothing else, he is a very prideful competitor.

Russell's struggles in Denver are overblown. Last year he had 3000 yards, 26 TDS, 8 INTs and a 98 rating. He completed 66.4% of his passes which was the 3rd highest of his career. If you look at his 2023 stats compared to the year the hawks won the Superbowl they are extremely similar. I think the reason he was dumped was more of a chemistry problem with him, the coaching staff and the team around him.

[Michael K.]

Russell's struggles in Denver are overblown. Last year he had 3000 yards, 26 TDS, 8 INTs and a 98 rating. He completed 66.4% of his passes which was the 3rd highest of his career. If you look at his 2023 stats compared to the year the hawks won the Superbowl they are extremely similar. I think the reason he was dumped was more of a chemistry problem with him, the coaching staff and the team around him.

Kind of the same thing, just not a fit. I don't think he fit the system. That said, he was also pretty damn bad last year. I watched several Bronco games last year, and he just didn't have it.

3000 yards is below average at best for today's game. That was over 100 yards less than Herbert, and Herbert played in two fewer games. That was 600 yards fewer than Geno, in the same number of games. He was 20th in yards per game. As a rookie, after a dreadful start, Nix is 18th in yards per game in the same offense. Nix needs to throw for just about 100 yards per game in the next two to end up with similar passing yards in 15 games to Russ....sorry, Russ was well below average last year. You want to point to TDs? Russ always did that. Russ was the king of the short TD pass while here.

Denver was not a good team last year. In week six they lost a close one to the Chiefs to fall to 1 and 5. Russ threw for 95 yards. A few weeks later they actually beat the Chiefs. It must have been because Russ threw for an astonishing 114 yards. The Broncos started winning as soon as Payton made him wear a wrist band and basically neutered him in public. They played 1975 football.

Again, watch Monday's game and tell me Russ shouldn't have excelled in that offense! It took Nix some time, but the Broncos are on a three game win streak and he has thrown for 307, 273 and 294 in those three games. Again, a Rookie. Russ had two games were he threw for more than that, and they were week two and week three, both losses. The week three loss was when the Dolphins scored 70 on them and the Broncos were in garbage time for 3 quarters! LOL