Whoa! Could WA finally have a Republican Governor again??

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Re: Whoa! Could WA finally have a Republican Governor again??

Post by bpj » Wed Jan 17, 2024 9:59 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
Wed Jan 17, 2024 9:13 pm
It's not holding up in court, you've got a kid buddy. You are responsible
Give a man a birth control pill and you'll see unwed pregnancy numbers plummet.

That's most likely exactly why they don't produce one. They need the aborted stem cells and baby parts to make all of their vaccines.

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Re: Whoa! Could WA finally have a Republican Governor again??

Post by Grandma Lynn » Sat Jan 20, 2024 1:59 am

bpj wrote:
Wed Jan 17, 2024 8:11 pm
Donn Beach wrote:
Wed Jan 17, 2024 2:21 pm
Men are responsible for birth control as women.
Then they should have equal rights on deciding yes/no on abortion.
No way! Her body is not his
to control!
His sperm is his to control.

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Re: Whoa! Could WA finally have a Republican Governor again??

Post by bpj » Sat Jan 20, 2024 5:38 am

Grandma Lynn wrote:
Sat Jan 20, 2024 1:59 am
bpj wrote:
Wed Jan 17, 2024 8:11 pm
Donn Beach wrote:
Wed Jan 17, 2024 2:21 pm
Men are responsible for birth control as women.
Then they should have equal rights on deciding yes/no on abortion.
No way! Her body is not his
to control!
His sperm is his to control.
He's not controlling her body.

He's controlling the body inside of her. If they're both responsible for getting pregnant, then they should both have equal rights to it. In my opinion, legally and morally, she gave up her bodily autonomy when another body became involved.

Can't hold him responsible while simultaneously giving her full control of killing the baby.

I'm not saying he should get to decide she has an abortion, I'm saying if one of them wants it, then don't kill it, especially if the parent that wants it doesn't need child support.

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Re: Whoa! Could WA finally have a Republican Governor again??

Post by Grandma Lynn » Sun Jan 21, 2024 9:59 pm

bpj wrote:
Sat Jan 20, 2024 5:38 am
Grandma Lynn wrote:
Sat Jan 20, 2024 1:59 am
bpj wrote:
Wed Jan 17, 2024 8:11 pm


Then they should have equal rights on deciding yes/no on abortion.
No way! Her body is not his
to control!
His sperm is his to control.
He's not controlling her body.

He's controlling the body inside of her. If they're both responsible for getting pregnant, then they should both have equal rights to it. In my opinion, legally and morally, she gave up her bodily autonomy when another body became involved.

Can't hold him responsible while simultaneously giving her full control of killing the baby.

I'm not saying he should get to decide she has an abortion, I'm saying if one of them wants it, then don't kill it, especially if the parent that wants it doesn't need child support.
You have alot of good
points. One main concern of
mine is that the timing of an
abortion. Having one when
the "baby" is ready to be born,
that is absolutely wrong and
murder. BUT when is it too
late to have one?

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Re: Whoa! Could WA finally have a Republican Governor again??

Post by bpj » Mon Jan 22, 2024 1:31 am

Grandma Lynn wrote:
Sun Jan 21, 2024 9:59 pm
bpj wrote:
Sat Jan 20, 2024 5:38 am
Grandma Lynn wrote:
Sat Jan 20, 2024 1:59 am


No way! Her body is not his
to control!
His sperm is his to control.
He's not controlling her body.

He's controlling the body inside of her. If they're both responsible for getting pregnant, then they should both have equal rights to it. In my opinion, legally and morally, she gave up her bodily autonomy when another body became involved.

Can't hold him responsible while simultaneously giving her full control of killing the baby.

I'm not saying he should get to decide she has an abortion, I'm saying if one of them wants it, then don't kill it, especially if the parent that wants it doesn't need child support.
You have alot of good
points. One main concern of
mine is that the timing of an
abortion. Having one when
the "baby" is ready to be born,
that is absolutely wrong and
murder. BUT when is it too
late to have one?
Obviously it depends on a person's beliefs. Personally I consider this a country founded on Christian beliefs, and think we'd be better off staying that way than following this path the libs have us on.

I've made too many bad choices in life to think I'm going to make it into heaven, but I believe in God, and there's more historical evidence of Jesus existence than anybody in history, so I have no problem believing in Jesus.

So when I read God say to Jeremiah (Jer. 1:5),
“Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart..."
I'm not inclined to believe life starts at 10, 14, 24, or 40 weeks, or whatever arbitrary point anyone wants to pick in between.

If you don't kill it at any point after conception, it lives. Pretty simple to me.

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