Tariffs?

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Re: Tariffs?

Post by bpj » Tue Apr 22, 2025 7:59 pm

gil wrote:
Tue Apr 22, 2025 4:50 pm
bpj wrote:
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gil wrote:
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I hope things go well, although I realize that we likely disagree on what "going well" means.

But the bigger thing I want to say is that the things we are talking about -- with regard to manufacturing in the US, and thereby creating jobs, and retaking the lead in technology -- take more than 4 years to address. Tariffs can be put in place immediately, but building US manufacturing capabilities is not going to happen in a year or two or even a presidential term.

I know I can be a polyanna about these things, but we need an agreement broadly among people who will be running our government over the course of several presidential terms. If Trump can start something and the next president keeps it rolling, then we have a chance of making progress. As it is, the "opposition party" resists, making it hard to get things done. Then the new administration, if it comes from the other party, tries to undo what it can of the previous administration. It's completely dysfunctional. Some things take long term planning and commitment.

I think that's exactly why Trump can't wait for everything to be approved by Congress, which probably wouldn't happen anyways.

He needs 3 years of results so the next nominee has a leg to stand on and people can choose Trumps path, or back to letting illegals overrun our country and running the country directly into the ground by picking another lib.
I'm reading about things that sound good to me, like securing the southern border and making it easier for people here illegally to "self deport". But do you have any sense of the "big picture"? With millions of people here illegally, how much of that is being addressed?

Speaking of tariffs, I was expecting this second Trump administration to be more "professional" than the first, with coordination and competence. Instead I see a lot of flailing around (e.g., all the changes on tariff policy) and nice "publicity" deportation moves (like arresting the grad students who demonstrated against Israel).

I don't mean everything. For example, I just read about Marco Rubio, Secretary of State, announcing a big reorganization (including major cuts) of the State Department. That strikes me as pretty well thought out.
Trump has a large number of subversives in his administration again. He couldn't see who the problem was last time and he's doing it all over again.

Half want Trump to bomb Iran. Half don't.

They're working overtime to discredit the don't-bomb-Iran people. Waltz is going after Hegseth. Mark Levin is going after Tulsi Gabbard. And all their kosher minions join in.

Its been an outstanding first 100 days of the Trump administration- if you're an Israeli. He's been focused way more on Israel than America-First so far. Pretty pathetic.

As far as the deportations go, it seems like they're doing exactly what it seemed like they would. See below.
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Re: Tariffs?

Post by gil » Wed Apr 23, 2025 3:32 pm

Both President Trump and the Secretary of the Treasury seem to be saying that tariffs on Chinese products will be coming down substantially, and soon. Judging by what the stock market has done the last 2 days, this is seen as good for the economy.

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Re: Tariffs?

Post by Donn Beach » Fri Apr 25, 2025 9:54 am

Yeah, trump is flinching. The issue I believe is he's up against a totalitarian regime. Trump likes to believe he can run things that way but he can't, and it's really no match for a regime that can.

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Re: Tariffs?

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Re: Tariffs?

Post by DanielVogelbach » Sun May 04, 2025 1:55 am

All taxation is theft and you can never beat a free market.

That being said the idea that USA and China are truly sovereign from each other is comical.

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