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Walla Walla Dawg II
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Re: And we're supposed to believe...
He won't, but if he does, it will be some flimsy left-winged rag that he thinks is real news.... or some twitter feed.
Re: And we're supposed to believe...
You mean the generic 'cut and paste' by the slack-jawed troglodytes that cannot think for themselves, therefore they have to hide behind other peoples opinions? Those are my favorite!! Think for yourself? No way man, I let CNN and the View form my opinions (insert harris bumpersticker on the subaru for full effect). These are the same people telling us Biden was a good candidate despite every single possible metric proving otherwise. Dumb always does the double down.Walla Walla Dawg II wrote: ↑Tue May 20, 2025 2:41 pmHe won't, but if he does, it will be some flimsy left-winged rag that he thinks is real news.... or some twitter feed.
Stimulus, response.
Re: And we're supposed to believe...
I read this on Tuesday morning: Having had Prostate Cancer and it surgically removed, I do have some experience with the testing process over the preceding five years. The article is fairly in-depth and does question why an individual with the best health care in the world over the age of 80 suddenly comes up with Stage 4 cancer.
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/20 ... heory.html
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May 19, 2025
Biden, prostate cancer, and an obligatory conspiracy theory
By Ned Barnett
This is going to be a bit more personal than my usual articles and blogs here, but only because I was diagnosed with prostate cancer right after my 65th birthday.
In addition, I worked in healthcare for 25 years.
Taken together, based on what I know, both professionally and personally, President Biden’s diagnosis is a bit more personal, and because I’ve been there and done that, I think I have a bit more information about prostate cancer than the average “joe.” I also think I know why his extremely advanced case of metastatic prostate cancer is just now coming to light. It might have something to do with Biden’s plans to run for a second term.
This weekend we learned that Joe Biden has an aggressive, fast-moving and malignant form of prostate cancer that has already metastasized to a bone. Stage Four cancer this advanced has a far from optimal survival rate – roughly 30 percent – especially for a man of his age, with his pre-existing health issues.
And I don’t mean dementia.
However, I do want to address something that may not be obvious.
Who dropped the ball in not finding this cancer much sooner?
Or was the ball dropped at all?
Perhaps when a much less aggressive form of prostate cancer was discovered, say during his annual physical in February 2024, a lid was put on this information.
Yes, this supposition is at the core of my obligatory conspiracy theory about how and why that ball was dropped – or not really dropped so much as suppressed.
Since Biden’s Russiagate theory proved to be a left-wing conspiracy, and since Hunter’s not-my-laptop claim – long denied by the corporate media as a right-wing conspiracy – also proved to be a real left-wing conspiracy, whenever we get bizarre news about Biden or his family, there’s got to be a conspiracy in there somewhere.
Here’s my theory:
As president of the world’s most powerful country, Joe Biden had instant access to literally the best medical care anywhere. He had his own very skilled doctors on call, with unfettered access. More important, if Biden needed to see his doctor, he didn’t have to make an appointment like the rest of us. Literally, if Biden or his team thought he might be at medical risk, the doctor would be there immediately – and the fantastic Bethesda Naval Hospital, now part of the Army’s Walter Reed Military Medical Center – would be on standby to run any tests or provide any treatment.
Nobody has immediate access to better care.
Beyond that, Biden had been previously diagnosed and treated for co-morbidities – that’s med-speak jargon for other major health issues that complicate diagnoses of new illnesses, and not in a good way.
In addition, while Joe’s claim to having once been diagnosed with “oil cancer” is Four Pinocchio’s of sheer bunkum, he does have a genetic pre-disposition to cancer, if only because one of his sons died of that horrific disease. With this in his medical record, regular and frequent checks for cancer – especially prostate cancer, because it’s so common in older men – would seem to be SOP, mil-speak jargon for “Standard Operating Procedure.”
At this point, I should offer a disclaimer. Like Joe Biden, I had a form of skin cancer, a malignant basal cell carcinoma (skin cancer). It was treated twice, the second time effectively, and I’ve been skin cancer-free for nearly a decade. And, like Joe Biden, I had prostate cancer, diagnosed in late 2016, when I was 65. Mine was not as advanced as his is, thank God. It was found during a routine diagnostic procedure shortly after my 65th birthday, the kind of tests Biden, at 82, should have had both regularly and frequently. My doctor recommended radiation treatment, and while I wish I’d gotten a second opinion and used a different treatment, the radiation did work. I’ve been prostate cancer-free since early 2017.
Back to Biden. Even after his term as President ended, Biden – like all former Presidents – still has immediate access to that same level of medical care he had while in office, first as Vice President from January 20, 2009 to January 20, 2017, and again from January 20, 2021 to January 20, 2025.
So there is no excuse – none, whatsoever – for Biden’s prostate cancer to have progressed to symptomatic Stage Four without having been found. The appearance of symptoms common to late-stage prostate cancer triggered the medical tests that led to this “apparently” new diagnosis. Here’s a few reasons why they should not have waited so long to discover that disease before it may already have been too late to save the former President. If that’s the case, why? Why suppress information that could lead to a life-saving treatment?
Prostate cancer is most often diagnosed in men 65 or over – the average age at first diagnosis is 67.
Every man over age 80 – Biden is 82 – if screened, is likely to have at least some sign of cancer cells in his prostate. Not all such findings require invasive care, but Biden now has Stage Four metastatic prostate cancer. For any President or former President, this should have been caught in State Zero or Stage One … unless it was.
Prostate cancer screening guidelines for all men over 50 years old call for them to have – at a minimum – a PSA (a blood test) and a rectal exam at least once a year.
Given that Joe Biden has been under Presidential-level medical care since he was elected in 2020, there must be a reason why this cancer wasn’t caught much earlier – unless it was. By the time prostate cancer is symptomatic, there is no excuse for the best medical science on earth to have missed this as it progressed from Stage Zero to it’s current, potentially deadly Stage Four.
So what really happened? If there was any reason to fear that Biden might possibly have an active, aggressive cancer – given what a diagnosis would almost certainly do to his chances for re-election in 2024 – the best way to deal with that is to avoid testing for prostate cancer, especially during his last year in office. Then, even if there were Congressional hearings, if the doctor didn’t test for prostate cancer, he couldn’t tell Congress what he didn’t know.
Here’s where my obligatory conspiracy theory comes in. First, because of his advanced age, there were bound to be people who had reservations in 2024 about voting such an obviously old man back into office. If it came out that he also had a potentially fatal diagnosis, that would only stress a reason for not voting for Joe.
Even when caught and treated early, some prostate cancer cases become fast-moving, aggressive and deadly. So, if it became public knowledge that Joe had been diagnosed with cancer in February of 2024, he might not have been re-nominated, let alone re-elected. It would have thrown the whole election into speculative chaos – anything could have happened.
Since early-stage prostate cancer is one of the lesser-threatening forms of cancer, Joe – or, more likely, Doctor Jill – may have decided to roll the dice and see if her husband could get elected and sworn in for his second term before his diagnosis became public.
Then, there was another risk as well. Recall, back when Biden was President, every time his doctor gave his annual post-exam assessment of the President’s health, the doctor was subject to serious questions about Biden’s cognitive failure and overall mental health. There were even threats of Congressional hearings if the doctor didn’t come clean about Biden’s possible dementia or Alzheimer’s disease.
So, if a reporter asked what else the doctor had discovered – and if the doctor had tested the President for prostate cancer – his medical ethics might have demanded he answer honestly. That was a wild card neither Joe nor Doctor Jill was likely to want to risk.
However, those reporters conspired unknowingly with the President by not asking an obvious question. Given Joe’s age, co-morbidity and family genetic history – does he have cancer or any other life-threatening disease. Specifically, “Doctor, does the President have prostate or any other life-threatening cancer?” The best way to answer this is to, first, not run the tests, and second, to answer honestly, “No, none that we detected.”
That risk, by itself, might be reason enough for Doctor Jill to roll those dice, hoping that Joe would survive long enough for his doctors to “discover” this – officially – after his re-election but before it was too late. If that’s what Jill did – and it seems plausible – she came up with snake eyes. Oops.
Given that he wasn’t elected – technically, he didn’t even run – it was still prudent to wait, if only to make sure the conspiracy didn’t come out. So, only after he’d been out of office for a reasonable period of time – four months seems appropriate – would it be safe for no-longer-President Biden to be tested, and found to have cancer. Nobody in on this conspiracy would have expected the cancer to become so aggressive, so quickly.
Is this true? Or even plausible? If not, how is it plausible that a great doctor, with all manner of diagnostic tools, missed a cancer just a year ago that had since February of ’24 it had become so aggressive, so malignant and so metastatic that it today puts the former President’s five-year life expectancy down to 30 percent?
Isn’t it easier to believe the conspiracy?
So far, all the facts we know support this “conspiracy theory.” Of course, we don’t have any facts, so this is pure speculation. However, can you think of any other reason why the President of the United States wouldn’t be routinely tested for prostate cancer until four months after he’d completed his time in office?
Neither can I.
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/20 ... heory.html
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May 19, 2025
Biden, prostate cancer, and an obligatory conspiracy theory
By Ned Barnett
This is going to be a bit more personal than my usual articles and blogs here, but only because I was diagnosed with prostate cancer right after my 65th birthday.
In addition, I worked in healthcare for 25 years.
Taken together, based on what I know, both professionally and personally, President Biden’s diagnosis is a bit more personal, and because I’ve been there and done that, I think I have a bit more information about prostate cancer than the average “joe.” I also think I know why his extremely advanced case of metastatic prostate cancer is just now coming to light. It might have something to do with Biden’s plans to run for a second term.
This weekend we learned that Joe Biden has an aggressive, fast-moving and malignant form of prostate cancer that has already metastasized to a bone. Stage Four cancer this advanced has a far from optimal survival rate – roughly 30 percent – especially for a man of his age, with his pre-existing health issues.
And I don’t mean dementia.
However, I do want to address something that may not be obvious.
Who dropped the ball in not finding this cancer much sooner?
Or was the ball dropped at all?
Perhaps when a much less aggressive form of prostate cancer was discovered, say during his annual physical in February 2024, a lid was put on this information.
Yes, this supposition is at the core of my obligatory conspiracy theory about how and why that ball was dropped – or not really dropped so much as suppressed.
Since Biden’s Russiagate theory proved to be a left-wing conspiracy, and since Hunter’s not-my-laptop claim – long denied by the corporate media as a right-wing conspiracy – also proved to be a real left-wing conspiracy, whenever we get bizarre news about Biden or his family, there’s got to be a conspiracy in there somewhere.
Here’s my theory:
As president of the world’s most powerful country, Joe Biden had instant access to literally the best medical care anywhere. He had his own very skilled doctors on call, with unfettered access. More important, if Biden needed to see his doctor, he didn’t have to make an appointment like the rest of us. Literally, if Biden or his team thought he might be at medical risk, the doctor would be there immediately – and the fantastic Bethesda Naval Hospital, now part of the Army’s Walter Reed Military Medical Center – would be on standby to run any tests or provide any treatment.
Nobody has immediate access to better care.
Beyond that, Biden had been previously diagnosed and treated for co-morbidities – that’s med-speak jargon for other major health issues that complicate diagnoses of new illnesses, and not in a good way.
In addition, while Joe’s claim to having once been diagnosed with “oil cancer” is Four Pinocchio’s of sheer bunkum, he does have a genetic pre-disposition to cancer, if only because one of his sons died of that horrific disease. With this in his medical record, regular and frequent checks for cancer – especially prostate cancer, because it’s so common in older men – would seem to be SOP, mil-speak jargon for “Standard Operating Procedure.”
At this point, I should offer a disclaimer. Like Joe Biden, I had a form of skin cancer, a malignant basal cell carcinoma (skin cancer). It was treated twice, the second time effectively, and I’ve been skin cancer-free for nearly a decade. And, like Joe Biden, I had prostate cancer, diagnosed in late 2016, when I was 65. Mine was not as advanced as his is, thank God. It was found during a routine diagnostic procedure shortly after my 65th birthday, the kind of tests Biden, at 82, should have had both regularly and frequently. My doctor recommended radiation treatment, and while I wish I’d gotten a second opinion and used a different treatment, the radiation did work. I’ve been prostate cancer-free since early 2017.
Back to Biden. Even after his term as President ended, Biden – like all former Presidents – still has immediate access to that same level of medical care he had while in office, first as Vice President from January 20, 2009 to January 20, 2017, and again from January 20, 2021 to January 20, 2025.
So there is no excuse – none, whatsoever – for Biden’s prostate cancer to have progressed to symptomatic Stage Four without having been found. The appearance of symptoms common to late-stage prostate cancer triggered the medical tests that led to this “apparently” new diagnosis. Here’s a few reasons why they should not have waited so long to discover that disease before it may already have been too late to save the former President. If that’s the case, why? Why suppress information that could lead to a life-saving treatment?
Prostate cancer is most often diagnosed in men 65 or over – the average age at first diagnosis is 67.
Every man over age 80 – Biden is 82 – if screened, is likely to have at least some sign of cancer cells in his prostate. Not all such findings require invasive care, but Biden now has Stage Four metastatic prostate cancer. For any President or former President, this should have been caught in State Zero or Stage One … unless it was.
Prostate cancer screening guidelines for all men over 50 years old call for them to have – at a minimum – a PSA (a blood test) and a rectal exam at least once a year.
Given that Joe Biden has been under Presidential-level medical care since he was elected in 2020, there must be a reason why this cancer wasn’t caught much earlier – unless it was. By the time prostate cancer is symptomatic, there is no excuse for the best medical science on earth to have missed this as it progressed from Stage Zero to it’s current, potentially deadly Stage Four.
So what really happened? If there was any reason to fear that Biden might possibly have an active, aggressive cancer – given what a diagnosis would almost certainly do to his chances for re-election in 2024 – the best way to deal with that is to avoid testing for prostate cancer, especially during his last year in office. Then, even if there were Congressional hearings, if the doctor didn’t test for prostate cancer, he couldn’t tell Congress what he didn’t know.
Here’s where my obligatory conspiracy theory comes in. First, because of his advanced age, there were bound to be people who had reservations in 2024 about voting such an obviously old man back into office. If it came out that he also had a potentially fatal diagnosis, that would only stress a reason for not voting for Joe.
Even when caught and treated early, some prostate cancer cases become fast-moving, aggressive and deadly. So, if it became public knowledge that Joe had been diagnosed with cancer in February of 2024, he might not have been re-nominated, let alone re-elected. It would have thrown the whole election into speculative chaos – anything could have happened.
Since early-stage prostate cancer is one of the lesser-threatening forms of cancer, Joe – or, more likely, Doctor Jill – may have decided to roll the dice and see if her husband could get elected and sworn in for his second term before his diagnosis became public.
Then, there was another risk as well. Recall, back when Biden was President, every time his doctor gave his annual post-exam assessment of the President’s health, the doctor was subject to serious questions about Biden’s cognitive failure and overall mental health. There were even threats of Congressional hearings if the doctor didn’t come clean about Biden’s possible dementia or Alzheimer’s disease.
So, if a reporter asked what else the doctor had discovered – and if the doctor had tested the President for prostate cancer – his medical ethics might have demanded he answer honestly. That was a wild card neither Joe nor Doctor Jill was likely to want to risk.
However, those reporters conspired unknowingly with the President by not asking an obvious question. Given Joe’s age, co-morbidity and family genetic history – does he have cancer or any other life-threatening disease. Specifically, “Doctor, does the President have prostate or any other life-threatening cancer?” The best way to answer this is to, first, not run the tests, and second, to answer honestly, “No, none that we detected.”
That risk, by itself, might be reason enough for Doctor Jill to roll those dice, hoping that Joe would survive long enough for his doctors to “discover” this – officially – after his re-election but before it was too late. If that’s what Jill did – and it seems plausible – she came up with snake eyes. Oops.
Given that he wasn’t elected – technically, he didn’t even run – it was still prudent to wait, if only to make sure the conspiracy didn’t come out. So, only after he’d been out of office for a reasonable period of time – four months seems appropriate – would it be safe for no-longer-President Biden to be tested, and found to have cancer. Nobody in on this conspiracy would have expected the cancer to become so aggressive, so quickly.
Is this true? Or even plausible? If not, how is it plausible that a great doctor, with all manner of diagnostic tools, missed a cancer just a year ago that had since February of ’24 it had become so aggressive, so malignant and so metastatic that it today puts the former President’s five-year life expectancy down to 30 percent?
Isn’t it easier to believe the conspiracy?
So far, all the facts we know support this “conspiracy theory.” Of course, we don’t have any facts, so this is pure speculation. However, can you think of any other reason why the President of the United States wouldn’t be routinely tested for prostate cancer until four months after he’d completed his time in office?
Neither can I.
Re: And we're supposed to believe...
just the latest shocker in the ever-emerging grifting and manipulation of the american people by the democrats. My God, the dishonesty and utterly repulsive behavior. But yeah, Trump is the problem here. OMG - look over there - more racism!
Funny how all the trump outrage narrative keep turning out to be false - but the dem and biden narratives keep turning out to be true - and far far far worse than we ever imagined.
Funny how all the trump outrage narrative keep turning out to be false - but the dem and biden narratives keep turning out to be true - and far far far worse than we ever imagined.
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DanielVogelbach
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Re: And we're supposed to believe...
If anything were real about politics you wouldn't ever have Joe Biden "leading the country".
Of course the POTUS is just a fake figurehead position used to trick the masses into thinking that it's all real and if they don't like it they just need to vote harder next time.
Of course the POTUS is just a fake figurehead position used to trick the masses into thinking that it's all real and if they don't like it they just need to vote harder next time.
Re: And we're supposed to believe...
I read this on Tuesday morning: Having had Prostate Cancer and it surgically removed, I do have some experience with the testing process over the preceding five years. The article is fairly in-depth and does question why an individual with the best health care in the world over the age of 80 suddenly comes up with Stage 4 cancer.
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/20 ... heory.html
Great article, ddraig. Thanks for posting it.
Even though my wife Julie died of a different cancer 56 days after they diagnosed it and she was getting all her tests and annuals, I have zero empathy or belief that Biden, his family, or his medical minions missed prostate cancer until this late date. I've been getting the Texas two-step, digital and PSA, annually forever as general covered care. The idea that no one knew FJB was a stewpot of prostate cancer at Walter Reed or wherever is just another shameless lie from a party that can't tell the truth about anything.
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/20 ... heory.html
Great article, ddraig. Thanks for posting it.
Even though my wife Julie died of a different cancer 56 days after they diagnosed it and she was getting all her tests and annuals, I have zero empathy or belief that Biden, his family, or his medical minions missed prostate cancer until this late date. I've been getting the Texas two-step, digital and PSA, annually forever as general covered care. The idea that no one knew FJB was a stewpot of prostate cancer at Walter Reed or wherever is just another shameless lie from a party that can't tell the truth about anything.
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Donn Beach
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Re: And we're supposed to believe...
Heck, he admits it himself,some of the things I say will be incorrect, he thinks others should fact check him, do it yourself buddy,, quit with the bullshit.auroraave wrote: ↑Tue May 20, 2025 12:36 pmAhhhh, Dawn and her assigned response - OMG Trump! OMG Elon! What specifically did Elon 'lie about' to "get power' for himself? Was it selling paypal? Was it starting Tesla? Was it starting SPace X? Seems like those gave him this 'power." And what narrative did he force to 'hurt the other side"? Please, be specific. We all know you won't because you can't because, as usual, you excrete your standard "anti trump" assigned response that is so hilariously predictable and hollow - and nonsensical. But hey, surprise us, go on, answer the questions with specifics - educate us. Better yet, throw another fit about trump and tell us how great biden/harris were!Donn Beach wrote: ↑Tue May 20, 2025 3:05 amHeck, Elon Musk jumps to the head of the class
Enemies of the country
Basically anyone that lies about anything to get power for themselves or to force a narrative to hurt the other side
Huh.. Trump?, it's musk we are talking about.
How about we fact check you, show me where I defended Biden, I don't remember that, I'm not a democrat
https://youtube.com/shorts/rupWpnhsJp4? ... 01009Qa5Uz
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sooooo, you have nothing to back up your claim that Elon Musk lied about anything or manufactured narratives to 'hurt the other side". Understood. You are the perfect left wing dem - rant and rave and make baseless accusation about people - without ever being able to defend your positions - and then feigning to be offended when you get called out on it - all while then claiming you're "not a dem" - while literally using page one of their playbook. Accuse, refuse, deny. Every. Single. Time.Donn Beach wrote: ↑Wed May 21, 2025 9:58 amHeck, he admits it himself,some of the things I say will be incorrect, he thinks others should fact check him, do it yourself buddy,, quit with the bullshit.auroraave wrote: ↑Tue May 20, 2025 12:36 pmAhhhh, Dawn and her assigned response - OMG Trump! OMG Elon! What specifically did Elon 'lie about' to "get power' for himself? Was it selling paypal? Was it starting Tesla? Was it starting SPace X? Seems like those gave him this 'power." And what narrative did he force to 'hurt the other side"? Please, be specific. We all know you won't because you can't because, as usual, you excrete your standard "anti trump" assigned response that is so hilariously predictable and hollow - and nonsensical. But hey, surprise us, go on, answer the questions with specifics - educate us. Better yet, throw another fit about trump and tell us how great biden/harris were!
Huh.. Trump?, it's musk we are talking about.
How about we fact check you, show me where I defended Biden, I don't remember that, I'm not a democrat
https://youtube.com/shorts/rupWpnhsJp4? ... 01009Qa5Uz
I guess you couldn't 'cut and paste' a response, huh?
Stimulus, response.
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Donn Beach
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That particular statement was in regards to the claim that $50 million was spent sending condoms to gaza. This was not an off hand remark, and it wasn't true. Musk and Doge have made a number of baseless claims, it's a tactic of disinformation .
https://www.ironmountain.com/industries ... overnmenta
You know you don't need to be a democrat to question what Musk is up to with doge. Mark Cuban isn't a particular fan.
Okay, another one, Musk commentedHis comments followed claims by US President Donald Trump, who earlier this month alleged that his administration had “identified and stopped $50 million being sent to Gaza to buy condoms for Hamas.”
The claim was first announced by White House spokesperson Karoline Leavitt in her first press briefing, saying the Musk-led Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) and the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) had found “that there was about to be 50 million taxpayer dollars that went out the door to fund condoms in Gaza.” However, the administration provided no evidence to support the assertion.
What he's referring to is iron mountain data, which does have underground storage facilities but not miners and mine shafts, that's just funny"The limiting factor is the speed at which the mine shaft elevator can move determines how many people can retire from the federal government, and the elevator breaks down sometimes, and then nobody can retire."
That same day, Musk's department posted about the mine on X.
"Federal employee retirements are processed using paper, by hand, in an old limestone mine in Pennsylvania. 700+ mine workers operate 230 feet underground to process ~10,000 applications per month, which are stored in manila envelopes76 and cardboard boxes. The retirement process takes multiple months."
https://www.ironmountain.com/industries ... overnmenta
You know you don't need to be a democrat to question what Musk is up to with doge. Mark Cuban isn't a particular fan.
I don't bother looking at Cuban often but I find him interesting when I do, when it comes to billionaires, I'm more in the Cuban camp than MuskMusk has referred to himself and DOGE as "tech support" for the federal government focused on updating outdated systems. Cuban told the podcast's host, Palmeri, that Musk's version of tech support wasn't only affecting the people he accuses of fraud.
For example, he said, DOGE's efforts to root out fraud and convert systems in the Social Security Administration have made it harder for some beneficiaries to get the services they need.
"You don't just make it more difficult for them," he added. "You implement things that allow them to access the system. That's just normal in any system conversion."
It's "tech 101," the "Shark Tank" star said, adding that Musk would be fired immediately in tech support for dismantling existing systems before rolling out replacements.
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Yes, I think the whole Social Security thing -- about how many dead people are collecting benefits -- is either incompetence or an outright lie. And the solution is to close offices, as the quote above noted, to make it harder to get services. I think that reaches the level of lying or manufacturing a narrative to hurt the other side. Don't you agree, AuroraAve?Donn Beach wrote: ↑Wed May 21, 2025 1:09 pmThat particular statement was in regards to the claim that $50 million was spent sending condoms to gaza. This was not an off hand remark, and it wasn't true. Musk and Doge have made a number of baseless claims, it's a tactic of disinformation .
Okay, another one, Musk commentedHis comments followed claims by US President Donald Trump, who earlier this month alleged that his administration had “identified and stopped $50 million being sent to Gaza to buy condoms for Hamas.”
The claim was first announced by White House spokesperson Karoline Leavitt in her first press briefing, saying the Musk-led Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) and the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) had found “that there was about to be 50 million taxpayer dollars that went out the door to fund condoms in Gaza.” However, the administration provided no evidence to support the assertion.
What he's referring to is iron mountain data, which does have underground storage facilities but not miners and mine shafts, that's just funny"The limiting factor is the speed at which the mine shaft elevator can move determines how many people can retire from the federal government, and the elevator breaks down sometimes, and then nobody can retire."
That same day, Musk's department posted about the mine on X.
"Federal employee retirements are processed using paper, by hand, in an old limestone mine in Pennsylvania. 700+ mine workers operate 230 feet underground to process ~10,000 applications per month, which are stored in manila envelopes76 and cardboard boxes. The retirement process takes multiple months."
https://www.ironmountain.com/industries ... overnmenta
You know you don't need to be a democrat to question what Musk is up to with doge. Mark Cuban isn't a particular fan.
I don't bother looking at Cuban often but I find him interesting when I do, when it comes to billionaires, I'm more in the Cuban camp than MuskMusk has referred to himself and DOGE as "tech support" for the federal government focused on updating outdated systems. Cuban told the podcast's host, Palmeri, that Musk's version of tech support wasn't only affecting the people he accuses of fraud.
For example, he said, DOGE's efforts to root out fraud and convert systems in the Social Security Administration have made it harder for some beneficiaries to get the services they need.
"You don't just make it more difficult for them," he added. "You implement things that allow them to access the system. That's just normal in any system conversion."
It's "tech 101," the "Shark Tank" star said, adding that Musk would be fired immediately in tech support for dismantling existing systems before rolling out replacements.