Mass shooting in British Columbia

[auroraave]

LOL good one. Van life.

That is a pretty bleak picture you pain, AuroraAve. Two questions: [1] Haven't other countries had the same "social" pressures as the US, and [2] With all off this horrible stuff, why is the homicide rate so LOW (the highest number on bpj's chart is 30.4 per 100,000 per year. That is a lot of people who are NOT killing each other.

bpj: You chart presents a big racial disparity. Still, the rate for whites in the US is higher than the rate in just about any other developed country. Why is this? Are the effects AuroraAve describes having a bigger effect on the population here than in other places?

Gil, I have not looked at the chart - I generally ignore 'cut and paste' stuff. If you cannot think for yourself, don't try to convince me of your position - I am sure I can 'cut and paste' a graph showing a different narrative. Right? Ignore all that - look at the last 15-20 years in the US - I trace it back to Obama when I started noticing these changes - of non stop outrages - never seen that before. Iphone, social media, completely corrupted media selling fales narratives, intentionally creating confusion, big pharma becming an overwhelming force on capitol hill and in advertising (no other countries allow that except NZ, I beleive), constant societal division via this weeks media-fuled "outrage" that dies off in a week and leads to the next one people fall for (despite the overwhelming evidence we are all 95% the SAME). Then throw in a confusing, isolating and massively damaging global event - the pandemic. Imagine the effect on younger, more malleable minds. The massive, massive , MASSIVE chaos that has been orchestrated on the US has literally beaten those people down and they look for solace where they can - by finding ANYone that has a common bond - politics, sexual orientation, "mental health" issues (the worst, IMO because big pharma is telling everyone they are sick and medicating them for profit - NOT for health reasons - all exacerbated by "the tv" nd politicians and doctors who are monitarily INCENTIVIZED to sell you prescriptions.

^^^^^ literally NONE of that existed in my youth - I take no meds, hold to radical political ideologies, ignore the "news" nonsense, am not on tik tok desperately seeking 'likes' or ''validation' - and I am just fine. THAT is the difference.

You fuck people up long enough, isolate them, confuse them, medicate them, do everything in your powr to divide them, yeah, a lot go mental. The people that do this shit are CULPABLE - but not 100% responsible - for all the reasons I wrote above - we are being massively manipulated - people are being driven to madness - just look back over the last 15-20 years - any person being even remotely objective will come to the same conclusion.

Ignore stats - concentrate on trends and patterns - THAT is where you will find the truth. In grad school i scored in the 95 percentile in analytics - pattern recognition is something I am very good at - I don't take credit - it's just how I am wired - but I swear to god if you can lock onto trends and recognize patterns - everything you think about the world will change. You want the greatest example? Trump - ignore any feeling you may have - consider this - before politics - he was the NY Real estate dude on a reality show. The minute he tried to upset the political apple cart - literally every week since has been some manufactured outrage. The "you're fired" dude is Hitler? I mean c'mon. I challenge you to go back and find them - there are dozens and dozens and dozens - and guess what? Almost NONE turned out to be true - but we are always 'on to the next one". Think about it - recognize THE PATTERN. It has nothing to do with liking, loving, hating him - ignore the emotional context - follow the pattern. You will be enlightened.

I don't live in other countries - I can't speak for them or thier problems.

[bpj]

Yes, ignore things like charts. Instead, please read this novel of nonsense.

Lol. Amazing.

Aurora, I'd love to see your chart that shows anything other than African Americans and Hispanics being the cause of our high murder rate. Lol.

[Walla Walla Dawg II]

I would like to start by saying that I love guns!!!
I am a huge supporter of the 2nd Amendment.

Mass shootings are a very bad thing, but there are other ways to kill people without guns. Personally, I could kill hundreds for under $150 and they wouldn't know until they found them.

There are also different ways to kill lots of people; Remember what happened on New Years Eve in New Orleans in 2024. I believe the asshole killed 25 people with an automobile, then another 2-3 with a gun.

So Guns are not the problem. In my opinion there are a few things that have contributed to this hysteria. Before I get into that, please follow the link to the Rockefeller fact sheet:
https://rockinst.org/gun-violence/mass- ... factsheet/

Personally, I look at when the curve started to elevate and try to think about what changed in society at that time.
Per the chart at the link above, the curve really started to elevate in the early 90's. So I ask, what happened in the early 90's. I honestly believe that it's a combination of things that all happened (or started) in the 90's. Shit like "first shooter" video games, pharmaceuticals, and the internet.

First Shooter games can affect people in different ways. Nobody can prove one way or another. Just because my kids can play them and not get 'bent' doesn't mean that someone else's wont get bent.

Then you add in the pharmaceuticals and the loneliness of the internet gaming.... who knows what kind of cocktail that is creating in our teens.


Honestly, look at the link that I provided above. It's fascinating looking at the graphs and charts that breakdown just about everything.

Note:
Handguns are present in 73% of these shootings. Rifles are only present in 33%. Although AR's would be categorized as a rifle, they do not take up the entire 33%.

This Wiki page lists the 'mass shootings' since 2000:
When an AR or AR-style weapon was used, they seem to point that out, and it's mentioned very little.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_m ... ted_States

[DavidGee24]

Aurora, I'd love to see your chart that shows anything other than African Americans and Hispanics being the cause of our high murder rate. Lol.

Absolutely, our high murder rate is driven up by African-Americans and Hispanics. A lot of them live in a crime-infested world where life is cheap, and guess what...there really isn't much that can be done about it and all the liberal rhetoric in the world isn't going to change anything. People are how people are.

The countries with low murder rates don't have those elements even though Seattle Or Bust tried to sell us a bottle of snake oil. That libtard actually tried to compare America to Canada, Australia and New Zealand like we were going to fall for it. Notice that he STFU after he got obliterated.

Of course, there's also the mass-shooter element, and this probably goes more into what Aurora touched on about being manipulated. Not to mention there's a perverse "fame" for these people who otherwise get no attention whatsoever in a country that has more famous people than pretty much all the other countries in the world combined.

Incarcerated about 10 miles east of me are two famous female mass-murderers, Patricia Krenwinkle (Manson Family) and Brenda Spencer (the I Don't Like Mondays girl). American society gives people like that a golden opportunity to be famous if even only for the proverbial 15 minutes.

[Walla Walla Dawg II]

The countries with low murder rates don't have those elements even though Seattle Or Bust tried to sell us a bottle of snake oil. That libtard actually tried to compare America to Canada, Australia and New Zealand like we were going to fall for it. Notice that he STFU after he got obliterated.

And keep in mind that the USA is the Great Melting Pot of cultures. Because of this, it's hard to keep everyone happy. Other countries don't have the diverse cultures that we do.

In my travels, I am always amazed at the hatred between Indians and Pakistan's.

[bpj]

I'd agree that things like depression medications and other mind altering medications could play a large part in mass shootings.

Ever seen the guy who made the term "melting pot" famous? Yeesh.

Everyone's entitled to a homeland but the white man, apparently.

Just have to look what's happening in places like the UK and Australia to see what they have planned for the US. Overrun us with immigrants, then make it illegal to badmouth the immigrants. Just let them have their rape gangs, no big deal. Same thing our lib judges do when they let these psychos out of jail after arrest.