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Re: Democratic National Convention

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Re: Democratic National Convention

Post by gil » Wed Aug 21, 2024 6:56 pm

bpj wrote:
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gil wrote:
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What bothers me the most about this is that Harris was just given Biden's delegates without earning them. Basically, she just slid into place with not debate or discussion of what the 4-5 candidates stood for on the important issues.

Basically, I am pissed that the Democrat party didn't follow their protocol of tearing one another up to earn the delegates and in the process, letting the American Peoples know where they stand on the the important issues.
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Yes. She also got all the money Biden had raised. How a party chooses its nominee is its own business, as far as I know, i.e., the Democratic National Committee (or whatever organization) gets to set the rules, interpret them, react if something unexpected happens. The money, however, would seem to be subject to some sort of campaign finance laws ... but maybe we don't have those anymore. :?

I think it might be different that Biden-Harris was a "ticket" and they were elected together 4 years ago, so it might be different than if Biden has said "if not running, and I'm supporting Josh Shapiro." I think most Democrats feel that Harris was "next in line."

And if, God forbid, a president died right before a convention with a nomination sewn up, what then? "The party" seems to have the right to choose how it wants to go about replacing that candidate.

Anyway, very nice to see how so many Republicans are caring about Joe Biden's feelings, and especially, how many care about how "democratic" the Democrats are being. My acquaintance with people who identify as Democrats has turned up a lot of the former but no serious amount of the latter. Essentially, as I said, I think they feel that Harris is "next in line" as VP.
You seem to be framing it in a very simplistic, casual manner compared to what actually happened.

The problem was everyone knew Joe was a vegetable all along. We joked about it plenty here.

They waited until after the primaries to admit it so they could install Kamala and continue their puppet government.

They didn't want to let people vote on RFK Jr., or Bootygag, or Pocahontas, or any other Dem options in a primary because Kamala had been thorougly demolished in the 2020 primary and they knew she probably wouldnt win, so they dragged Joe along acting like he was still a serious candidate until they could hand it to her.

I think it's funny how they treat their voters like absolute bozos and they just eat it up and say, "Thank you, master."

Kamala was unpopular as a candidate in 2020 then hid most of the last 4 years and had the lowest approval numbers ever recorded as a VP, but now we're supposed to believe she's their preferred candidate? Not buying it.
Democrats (and Harris) could not have had a much better scenario, I agree. No bruising primaries. Biden dropping out right after the RNC to cut short any media honeymoon with that event. But who are the "they" who you believe are controlling Democratic voters, Biden, Harris, etc? I don't see that. "Someone" manipulating "the puppets" is more simplistic than what I see happened (i.e., a political outcome with a lot of people with various levels of influence - picture a whole lot of vectors flying around - but Biden ultimately making the decision).

If Biden had said he wasn't running back in early 2023, there obviously would have been numerous Democratic candidates as well as contested primaries. I'm not sure Harris would have won the nomination in that scenario, but I'm almost certain she would have done better than in the 2020 primaries in that she had national exposure as VP. And she certainly is a lot more popular among Democrats than among Republicans.

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Re: Democratic National Convention

Post by bpj » Wed Aug 21, 2024 8:47 pm

gil wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 6:56 pm
bpj wrote:
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gil wrote:
Tue Aug 20, 2024 11:47 pm


Yes. She also got all the money Biden had raised. How a party chooses its nominee is its own business, as far as I know, i.e., the Democratic National Committee (or whatever organization) gets to set the rules, interpret them, react if something unexpected happens. The money, however, would seem to be subject to some sort of campaign finance laws ... but maybe we don't have those anymore. :?

I think it might be different that Biden-Harris was a "ticket" and they were elected together 4 years ago, so it might be different than if Biden has said "if not running, and I'm supporting Josh Shapiro." I think most Democrats feel that Harris was "next in line."

And if, God forbid, a president died right before a convention with a nomination sewn up, what then? "The party" seems to have the right to choose how it wants to go about replacing that candidate.

Anyway, very nice to see how so many Republicans are caring about Joe Biden's feelings, and especially, how many care about how "democratic" the Democrats are being. My acquaintance with people who identify as Democrats has turned up a lot of the former but no serious amount of the latter. Essentially, as I said, I think they feel that Harris is "next in line" as VP.
You seem to be framing it in a very simplistic, casual manner compared to what actually happened.

The problem was everyone knew Joe was a vegetable all along. We joked about it plenty here.

They waited until after the primaries to admit it so they could install Kamala and continue their puppet government.

They didn't want to let people vote on RFK Jr., or Bootygag, or Pocahontas, or any other Dem options in a primary because Kamala had been thorougly demolished in the 2020 primary and they knew she probably wouldnt win, so they dragged Joe along acting like he was still a serious candidate until they could hand it to her.

I think it's funny how they treat their voters like absolute bozos and they just eat it up and say, "Thank you, master."

Kamala was unpopular as a candidate in 2020 then hid most of the last 4 years and had the lowest approval numbers ever recorded as a VP, but now we're supposed to believe she's their preferred candidate? Not buying it.
Democrats (and Harris) could not have had a much better scenario, I agree. No bruising primaries. Biden dropping out right after the RNC to cut short any media honeymoon with that event. But who are the "they" who you believe are controlling Democratic voters, Biden, Harris, etc? I don't see that. "Someone" manipulating "the puppets" is more simplistic than what I see happened (i.e., a political outcome with a lot of people with various levels of influence - picture a whole lot of vectors flying around - but Biden ultimately making the decision).

If Biden had said he wasn't running back in early 2023, there obviously would have been numerous Democratic candidates as well as contested primaries. I'm not sure Harris would have won the nomination in that scenario, but I'm almost certain she would have done better than in the 2020 primaries in that she had national exposure as VP. And she certainly is a lot more popular among Democrats than among Republicans.
Because they already have the team in place to continue the demolition of white supremacy from the inside.

First, we know Kamala Harris's husband is a zionist.

Then, we know everybody in a position of power is a zionist.
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And we know Biden is a zionist-
They'll cry that it's antisemitism, but it's just an inconvenient truth that they don't want you to notice as the country slowly swirls straight down the shitter.

Same story throughout history. Talmudic Judaism is the worship of Moloch. That's where we're at.
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Re: Democratic National Convention

Post by bpj » Thu Aug 22, 2024 3:51 am

Like I've said, I used to be in the "Israel are the chosen people" camp.

Then I really started looking into who they are and what they believe and it's just eye opening.

Two years ago I heard this stuff and brushed them off as antisemitic. Now, once you see their influence, you see it everywhere.

Nazis were burning the books having to do with transsexuals and the torah/talmud. The same BS they're pushing on society now, because it comes directly from their Talmud.

They weren't "burning the Bible".

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Re: Democratic National Convention

Post by bpj » Thu Aug 22, 2024 3:55 am

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Re: Democratic National Convention

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Re: Democratic National Convention

Post by bpj » Thu Aug 22, 2024 8:38 am

There's no other country allowed to funnel millions to politicians campaigns to sway the outcomes.

If the i in AIPAC stood for Iraq or Iran, people would immediately recognize the threat.

But since we've been conditioned that these people are our "allies", nobody bats an eye.

What exactly makes them our ally again? Other than their control of our government.....
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Re: Democratic National Convention

Post by bpj » Thu Aug 22, 2024 8:41 am

If this was true in the 80's, look how much further their reach has spread now in our government and media...
People need to open their eyes before it's too late.

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Re: Democratic National Convention

Post by gil » Thu Aug 22, 2024 5:01 pm

I agree with your point that if the "I" in AIPAC were for Iran or Iraq rather than Israel, a lot of people would be upset. But hey, lots of people are upset that it's a pro-Israel lobbying group. You are just one of them.

But more to the point: You seem to be saying "look at all the Jews is positions of power" with your collage of individuals. OK, granted this is accurate, you have identified Jews. As a group, Jews have been very successful in a number of fields. But then you get to saying "everybody in a position of power is a zionist." Isn't "everybody" a bit of an exaggeration? I'm seeing a logical disconnect.

Anyway, the logic is escaping me, but I think that you mean that the "they" who pushed out Biden and replaced him with Harris is this Jewish/Zionist elite that controls the strings of the puppets. Is that your point?

Meanwhile, what explains former President Trump's full throated support for Israel? Is he a puppet (of "them") too?
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Re: Democratic National Convention

Post by Walla Walla Dawg II » Thu Aug 22, 2024 5:10 pm

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