OT- Riots, who is responsible?

[Sibelius Hindemith]

Your poll is a bit biased. Though you did mention Trump. However, he's off the hook on this one. Where's "White Supremacists"? Where's Henry David Thoreau and "Civil Disobedience"? Where's "We're bored, we're young, we're pissed about stuff and we're out of work and we have a ton of non-disbursed energy"?

Leftist lies and lame excuses wouldn't have made the poll better. However, i think the media played a huge roll in this, as well as our [failed] public education system. And i shouldn't leave out the hatred-inculcating role that our colleges play.

[bpj]

Very curious what the forum thinks.

Off topic but baseball doesnt exist right now anyways and wanted as many votes as possible for a clearer picture.

Please set biases aside and vote what you feel.

Your poll is a bit biased. Though you did mention Trump. However, he's off the hook on this one. Where's "White Supremacists"? Where's Henry David Thoreau and "Civil Disobedience"? Where's "We're bored, we're young, we're pissed about stuff and we're out of work and we have a ton of non-disbursed energy"?

White Supremacists is on the poll........

It's garnering as much attention as Thoreau or bored kids would.

People (most) aren't stupid, they see this for what it is.

[DavidGee24]

I posted the stats on the Political Forum from 2019 on police killings. Not only were many more whites killed than blacks, but almost as many Hispanics. Yet nobody says anything about this. The black leaders don't care and don't want to hear it, and the white leaders are too scared to say it lest they be branded as racists.

[Double Mocha Man]

We need to look at this via percentages, not absolute numbers. The black population in the U.S. is roughly 14%. Kinda like BA vs. OBP vs. OPS.

[DavidGee24]

We need to look at this via percentages, not absolute numbers. The black population in the U.S. is roughly 14%. Kinda like BA vs. OBP vs. OPS.

Oh I know that, but the point remains the same. It's a significant amount of dead either way. And Hispanics on a percentile scale get it almost as bad as blacks.

[Sibelius Hindemith]

We need to look at this via percentages, not absolute numbers. The black population in the U.S. is roughly 14%. Kinda like BA vs. OBP vs. OPS.

Population % is irrelevant. As a percentage of those involved in police encounters blacks are far higher than 14%, undoubtedly because they are far more likely to commit crimes than whites.

[Michael K.]

We need to look at this via percentages, not absolute numbers. The black population in the U.S. is roughly 14%. Kinda like BA vs. OBP vs. OPS.

Population % is irrelevant. As a percentage of those involved in police encounters blacks are far higher than 14%, undoubtedly because they are far more likely to commit crimes than whites.

Someone earlier posted a statistic for the number of unarmed that were shot. I have no idea if the stats were accurate, or where they came from, but seems it was something like 19 white and 9 black. Those are numbers to start with. I understand what you are saying, but to try and say things like blacks and hispanics are more likely to be involved in gang activity or what ever just simply doesn't sit right. Someone would have to actually do a study, but we do know population percentages. I just googled and an article in 2016 says that blacks make up 12.7% of the population and whites 72.4%.

If you just use those numbers it doesn't make much sense to say it is equal. Kind of hard to look at the raw data and say that people are crazy to believe that racial profiling happens. If whites have six times the population, why only double the amount of unarmed shot by police? I don't know that those that believe there is no bias would like the answer to that. Understand this comes from someone that was raised in a family surrounded by law enforcement. My grandfather and both of his sons, hell, my Grandfather was the County Sheriff. They were great men...not all are.

One of the reasons I was so made at Michael Bennett and his BS is because it is a real issue. Bennett may have felt profiled, I have no idea why based on the evidence, but once the facts came out it looked bad. The same thing for that dumb ass actor who paid some people to beat him up so he could claim he was the victim of a hate crime. This shit REALLY happens, and when you do dumb stuff like they did it diminishes it.

I live in a smaller community, and while I knew there is issues with racism everywhere, I really didn't know how bad it could be until I became friends with a guy that is married to a black woman. It is really sad some of the stories I've been told. I used to hate to be told that "you just don't understand", but the truth is? I don't. I won't tell you I haven't had people not like me because I am white, because I have. But NOTHING compared to what she has gone through...and like I said, it is far worse elsewhere.

The riots make me sad, and they piss me off. For many reasons. One of those reasons is I truly felt that after this despicable human being in Minneapolis did what he did, I thought the nation was pretty well unified. That doesn't happen very much. But now? It doesn't matter how many peaceful protests happen, the conversation has gone from the terrible thing those police officers did, a topic almost all were unified on, to the looting and rioting. Something I don't agree with at all, but that issue divides us.

[Double Mocha Man]

Michael... well said.

[Double Mocha Man]

Nick Rolovich, the new Washington State football coach may have said it best... it's not blacks vs. whites. It's good vs. evil. And the officer who killed George Floyd was evil. He went on to talk about his locker rooms where everybody is on the same side and there is a strong affinity between players in a common battle.

[Moe Gibbs]

Michael K..by every other measure Negroes are proven to be the most involved [well above every other race] with violent crime. Negroes are 1/8 the US population but commit 1/2 the violent crime, way more than 1/2 the infanticide and matricide too. Let that sink in for as long as it takes. This is what makes the 9 Black to 19 White ratio of this sort of death plausible / feasible / understandable.