Who will win the presidential election

[gil]

Alaska has been stuck at 50% for three days. I guess they are awaiting the Eskimo Mail in vote to arrive by dog sled. Apparently it tends to lean Democrat so they can't call it yet.

yeah, i saw a blurb from Nate Silver on that, they had not counted any of their mail-ins yet...

and here, Alaska has the slowest ballot counting process in America. Does that make you suspicious? Alaska claims its all about security


https://www.adn.com/politics/2020/11/05 ... not-speed/

Our current electoral systems weren't set up to account for this many mail in votes. But the trends over time in total votes reported in the 6 states that haven't or shouldn't have been called (PA, GA, AZ, NV, NC, and AK) are showing this and other things (such as slow counting in general). Biden probably won't catch up in NC or Alaska. Trump looks like he won't catch up in NV or AZ. Biden likely will win PA easily, and has moved ahead in GA.

These data show this (current results over time, votes remaining, and what percentage of the uncounted vote the candidate needed to win):
https://alex.github.io/nyt-2020-electio ... anges.html

Also, as far as I know, the Pennsylvania results so far do NOT included ballots received after election day. Those have been kept separate because of uncertainly over whether then would ultimately be accepted.

[D-train]

Alaska has been stuck at 50% for three days. I guess they are awaiting the Eskimo Mail in vote to arrive by dog sled. Apparently it tends to lean Democrat so they can't call it yet.

yeah, i saw a blurb from Nate Silver on that, they had not counted any of their mail-ins yet...

and here, Alaska has the slowest ballot counting process in America. Does that make you suspicious? Alaska claims its all about security


https://www.adn.com/politics/2020/11/05 ... not-speed/

Its not a big deal but Trump is up 62-33 with half the votes in. Why not call it. They called AZ at 9pm MST on election night with small lead and over a million to count. Are they seriously concerned that the rest up the votes will go 63-32 Biden and they will end up looking like idiots?? Its just bizarre.

[Donn Beach]

Alaska has been stuck at 50% for three days. I guess they are awaiting the Eskimo Mail in vote to arrive by dog sled. Apparently it tends to lean Democrat so they can't call it yet.

yeah, i saw a blurb from Nate Silver on that, they had not counted any of their mail-ins yet...

and here, Alaska has the slowest ballot counting process in America. Does that make you suspicious? Alaska claims its all about security


https://www.adn.com/politics/2020/11/05 ... not-speed/

Its not a big deal but Trump is up 62-33 with half the votes in. Why not call it. They called AZ at 9pm MST on election night with small lead and over a million to count. Are they seriously concerned that the rest up the votes will go 63-32 Biden and they will end up looking like idiots?? Its just bizarre.

You say "they", that was two networks...yeah, i think they are concerned about looking like idiots, what is to be gained? The calling a state is all about completion between networks, what is to be gained by calling Alaska as opposed to what could be lost by being wrong...no reason to call it in the first place

[Donn Beach]

i do not think it has anything at all to do with it being Trump or Biden, all it has to do is reward to the network

[HawkBowler 2.0]

Also, as far as I know, the Pennsylvania results so far do NOT included ballots received after election day. Those have been kept separate because of uncertainly over whether then would ultimately be accepted.

I don't have faith in the Democrats playing by the rules. How do we know that they're setting those votes aside? They're not even allowing poll watchers in certain parts of the country.

This isn't a contest like football where there's a score on the board and a certain amount of time on the clock. All of these battle ground states are within 1% which means recount.

Team Trump needs to discover fraud. That will be hard because the fraudulent ballots get mixed and shuffled in with the valid votes. Regardless, they've got to fight this all the way. Certification of the results and the assigning of the electoral college votes doesn't happen for another six weeks, December 14th.

[Donn Beach]

Also, as far as I know, the Pennsylvania results so far do NOT included ballots received after election day. Those have been kept separate because of uncertainly over whether then would ultimately be accepted.

I don't have faith in the Democrats playing by the rules. How do we know that they're setting those votes aside? They're not even allowing poll watchers in certain parts of the country.

This isn't a contest like football where there's a score on the board and a certain amount of time on the clock. All of these battle ground states are within 1% which means recount.

Team Trump needs to discover fraud. That will be hard because the fraudulent ballots get mixed and shuffled in with the valid votes. Regardless, they've got to fight this all the way. Certification of the results and the assigning of the electoral college votes doesn't happen for another six weeks, December 14th.

its not about the demos playing by the rules, its about the all the agencies in place to insure a fair and honest election, the demos have no control over that, no more than the republicans. Sorry, but I don't even see it ending up that close, Biden is leading in Georgia now, you think the demos created that? All this drama pumped out by Trump about it being a fraudulent, its not going to be that close to bother with in the end. Its been stressful getting to the final tallies, but that does not indicate fraud, if anything it is about careful consideration of counting. Biden is now up by 4 mil in the popular vote, but somehow he is stealing the election, give me a break with that crap

[HawkBowler 2.0]

Pennsylvania had 266,000 mail in votes in 2016. They have 2.5 million this year.

Trump wins this election in a landslide if not for the mail in votes. There should be an audit of every vote. Are they registered? Are they deceased? Have all duplicate ballots been removed?

[D-train]

Also, as far as I know, the Pennsylvania results so far do NOT included ballots received after election day. Those have been kept separate because of uncertainly over whether then would ultimately be accepted.

I don't have faith in the Democrats playing by the rules. How do we know that they're setting those votes aside? They're not even allowing poll watchers in certain parts of the country.

This isn't a contest like football where there's a score on the board and a certain amount of time on the clock. All of these battle ground states are within 1% which means recount.

Team Trump needs to discover fraud. That will be hard because the fraudulent ballots get mixed and shuffled in with the valid votes. Regardless, they've got to fight this all the way. Certification of the results and the assigning of the electoral college votes doesn't happen for another six weeks, December 14th.

I have no idea how much cheating has happened but what I do know is they the hate for Trump is so extreme, that people have be willing to do whatever it takes to take him down while chalking it up to the ends justify the means. They have literally convinced themselves that their actions are noble as opposed to the reality that they are despicable.

[HawkBowler 2.0]

its not about the demos playing by the rules, its about the all the agencies in place to insure a fair and honest election, the demos have no control over that, no more than the republicans. Sorry, but I don't even see it ending up that close, Biden is leading in Georgia now, you think the demos created that? All this drama pumped out by Trump about it being a fraudulent, its not going to be that close to bother with in the end. Its been stressful getting to the final tallies, but that does not indicate fraud, if anything it is about careful consideration of counting. Biden is now up by 4 mil in the popular vote, but somehow he is stealing the election, give me a break with that crap

If you were right the contest would have already been called in Biden's favor.

What happened and what's happening right now should be obvious to everyone. The Dems in blue cities stopped the count to see what the totals would be from the rural counties. Why do you think the vote counts were stuck at 88% and 90% for days. Does it really take that long to count? No, it takes that long to manufacture the votes needed to steal the election.

[Donn Beach]

Also, as far as I know, the Pennsylvania results so far do NOT included ballots received after election day. Those have been kept separate because of uncertainly over whether then would ultimately be accepted.

I don't have faith in the Democrats playing by the rules. How do we know that they're setting those votes aside? They're not even allowing poll watchers in certain parts of the country.

This isn't a contest like football where there's a score on the board and a certain amount of time on the clock. All of these battle ground states are within 1% which means recount.

Team Trump needs to discover fraud. That will be hard because the fraudulent ballots get mixed and shuffled in with the valid votes. Regardless, they've got to fight this all the way. Certification of the results and the assigning of the electoral college votes doesn't happen for another six weeks, December 14th.

I have no idea how much cheating has happened but what I do know is they the hate for Trump is so extreme, that people have be willing to do whatever it takes to take him down while chalking it up to the ends justify the means. They have literally convinced themselves that their actions are noble as opposed to the reality that they are despicable.

and if Hillary had been elected president there would have been any less hate?...give me a break with the hate argument, it breaks both ways