Who will win the presidential election

Who will win

Trump
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65%
Biden
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35%
There will be a tie and they will be co-president
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Re: Who will win the presidential election

Post by HawkBowler 2.0 » Tue Nov 10, 2020 12:08 am

A caravan of Patriots starting tonight from Texas to Georgia to North Carolina and finishing this Saturday at the White House.
Awesome! Should be a good showing in DC on Saturday.

Reminds me of that movie from the 70s Convoy. Truckers unite!

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Re: Who will win the presidential election

Post by D-train » Tue Nov 10, 2020 12:09 am

dt

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Re: Who will win the presidential election

Post by HawkBowler 2.0 » Tue Nov 10, 2020 12:10 am

MAGA people are too nice. We need BLM tactics at this point. Riots outside the polling stations -- in-your-face screaming for elected officials. They need to see that tons of people disagree with what they're doing.

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Re: Who will win the presidential election

Post by HawkBowler 2.0 » Tue Nov 10, 2020 12:11 am

D-train wrote:
Tue Nov 10, 2020 12:09 am
BREAKING: AGBarr will instruct DOJ to probe "substantial allegations" of voting irregularities
3:52 PM · Nov 9, 2020·Twitter Web App
https://twitter.com/ShannonBream/status ... 5645080585
Wow! Just when I thought AG Barr was part of the deep state.

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Re: Who will win the presidential election

Post by HawkBowler 2.0 » Tue Nov 10, 2020 12:18 am

Barr wrote that investigations “may be conducted if there are clear and apparently-credible allegations of irregularities that, if true, could potentially impact the outcome of a federal election in an individual State.”
https://thehill.com/homenews/525221-bar ... oter-fraud
Sounds like Benford Law deviations in Milwaukee, Detroit and Atlanta. Should be "credible allegations of irregularities" since the statistical law has been used in other election fraud cases.

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Re: Who will win the presidential election

Post by Michael K. » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:24 am

Barr wrote that investigations “may be conducted if there are clear and apparently-credible allegations of irregularities that, if true, could potentially impact the outcome of a federal election in an individual State.”
https://thehill.com/homenews/525221-bar ... oter-fraud
So, am I reading that wrong? Does that actually say that they have to have impacted the outcome? So, if Biden won by 2,000 votes, but the cheating only gained him 1,900 votes, does that mean they wouldn't investigate? So, lying and cheating is OK as long as it wasn't the actual reason you won? I have to be reading that wrong right? If some rigs an election, there should be ramifications, whether that is why they won or not.

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Re: Who will win the presidential election

Post by HawkBowler 2.0 » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:25 am

Full AG Barr memo:

https://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/a ... 52fc75.pdf
In instances in which they are consulted, the ECB' s general practice has been to
counsel that overt investigative steps ordinarily should not be taken until the election in question
has been concluded, its results certified, and all recounts and election contests concluded.
Such a
passive and delayed enforcement approach can result in situations in which election misconduct
cannot realistically be rectified.

irregularities that, if true, could potentially impact the outcome of a federal election in an individual
State. Any investigation of claims of irregularities that, if true, would clearly not impact the outcome
of a federal election in an individual State should normally be deferred until after the election
certification process is completed. While U.S. Attorneys maintain their inherent authority to conduct
inquiries and investigations as they deem appropriate, it will likely be prudent to commence any
election-related matters as a preliminary inquiry, so as to assess whether available evidence warrants
further investigative steps.
This is big. The left's plan is to slow walk access to ballots and recounts. You can't find fraud if you can't see the evidence. Meanwhile, every day that goes by the call for Trump to concede grows louder.

The DOJ had a rule that investigators had to wait until after the election is completed and certified. That's game over from the Democrats perspective -- they would continue counting until July 2021. Now agents can pursue fraud if they see it without waiting for the count to be finalized.

Also, this order likely means that investigators already have some leads. Recall that AG Barr authorized armed agents to go into polling stations last week. Now he's giving the green light to investigate.

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Re: Who will win the presidential election

Post by HawkBowler 2.0 » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:31 am

Michael K. wrote:
Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:24 am
Barr wrote that investigations “may be conducted if there are clear and apparently-credible allegations of irregularities that, if true, could potentially impact the outcome of a federal election in an individual State.”
https://thehill.com/homenews/525221-bar ... oter-fraud
So, am I reading that wrong? Does that actually say that they have to have impacted the outcome? So, if Biden won by 2,000 votes, but the cheating only gained him 1,900 votes, does that mean they wouldn't investigate? So, lying and cheating is OK as long as it wasn't the actual reason you won? I have to be reading that wrong right? If some rigs an election, there should be ramifications, whether that is why they won or not.
I'm guessing the fraud has to be large enough to over turn the results. They should be looking at the 5 am deposits to both WI and MI for Joe Biden. 300,000 over night. Joe is losing both states substantially on election night. The next morning Joe is ahead and soon the states are called in his favor. That would do it there... overturning two states.

Trump needs a win. Just one exposure showing thousands of fraudulent votes. He might be making a mistake trying to fight this battle in all five states. Stick to Detroit and Phily. My guess is that they were really sloppy when it comes to the cover up.

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Re: Who will win the presidential election

Post by Michael K. » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:40 am

So, you can do illegal shit, but it only matters if that is the reason you won? Odd.

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Re: Who will win the presidential election

Post by Coeurd’Alene J » Tue Nov 10, 2020 2:23 am

https://redstate.com/scotthounsell/2020 ... in-n276884
For instance, in Wisconsin, data suggests that there are issues that need looking into in 5 counties in particular: Washington, St. Croix, Dane, Waukesha, and Ozaukee Counties.


Why these counties? Well, in particular, these are the counties in which Joe Biden beat Barack Obama’s turnout by double digits. In 57 of Wisconsin’s counties, Biden underperformed Obama’s turnout, in some counties by as much as 28%. In 37 of those counties, Biden underperformed Obama’s turnout by double digits. When factored for population losses, that number rises to 41. In another 16 counties, Biden underperformed Obama by single digits. In 10 counties, Biden overperformed Obama, but in 3 of those counties, when factored for population losses since 2012, did not beat Obama’s 2012 turnout. In Trump’s column, Trump beat the 2012 turnout in every county except 4 and his 2016 turnout in every county in Wisconsin. That means that Trump improved in 95% of counties while Biden lost in 80% of counties. To simplify even further, Trump averaged a 30.31% average increase in Wisconsin over 2012 and a 16.39% increase over 2016. To compare that to Biden’s tally of an average underperformance of Obama by 8.51% over 2012 and a 17.39% increase over Clinton’s 2016 performance. That leaves us with our 5 counties in question.

In Washington County, just outside of Milwaukee, Biden overperformed Obama by 15.03%. For reference, in Milwaukee, Biden underperformed Obama by 4.57%. That’s almost a 20 point swing in voter-behavior in just 20 miles. While I don’t discount that Biden could do better in a few counties, to suggest that he would suddenly OVERPERFORM by double digits when he failed to do that throughout the state, definitely would raise some questions in a lot of people’s minds. Not only is the sudden double-digit rise questionable, but It happens in a county that Trump still won anyway.


In St. Croix County which actually finds itself as more of a Minneapolis suburb, Biden beat Obama’s 2012 turnout by more than 3200 votes (16.47% increase) and Clintons turnout by 5708 Votes (or 32.65%). Again, another massive jump that is completely unexplained as Biden underperformed the three bordering counties by 4.36%, 7.07%, and 12.43% respectively. This signals a shift in voter attitudes by anywhere from 20 to 28 points, in just a couple of miles. Again, as with Washington County, Trump also won St. Croix with a 26 point increase over 2016. Since 2012, St. Croix had a 6% increase in registration, which could be a factor for some of that voter increase, but even so, still shows a double-digit increase over Obama’s 2012 turnout.

In Dane County, Biden shot past Obama by 20.4%, another strange statistical bump that denies the national trend, state trend, and regional trend. Of the 7 counties surrounding Dane, Biden underperformed Obama anywhere from 12.38% to 1.26%. Suddenly, as you cross that county border Biden support jumps 20 points? Not plausible. Again, it is difficult to see how Biden underperformed in Milwaukee and then suddenly crushed it in Madison or that voter attitudes and behaviors would shift by 20-32 points in a few miles. The increase in Dane County factored for 44,086 more votes than Obama. This again points to a huge statistical improbability. For reference, Biden only won the state by 20,000 votes.
This needs to be looked at..Fuck Mitt Romney and anybody else who thinks Trump should surrender

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