Missing Titanic Submersible

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Re: Missing Titanic Submersible

Post by DanielVogelbach » Wed Jun 28, 2023 4:34 pm

Walla Walla Dawg II wrote:
Wed Jun 28, 2023 3:04 pm
I've asked him about:
Water supply
Roads
Law Enforcement

-crickets-
Crickets??? I could talk about this stuff at a podium with no notes for 3 days straight with a Texas catheter.

You can voluntarily pool resources to accomplish anything. You just don't need the guns of "government" to get it done. In fact, the "government" version of every service sucks ass. The free market always provides a better alternative.

The idea that the "government" will spend your money better than you and your neighbors would on your own is ludicrous. It's obviously just theft.

Key point is that there are no free markets other than the black market. Everything else is part of the system. The central bank fiat currency scam is also responsible for extracting massive amounts of wealth that we could use to build roads and bridges.

If we had our tax money back, we could afford to actually protect our neighborhoods and prevent crime. That massively reduces the amount of money spent on courts and jails.

If a private security firm has a bad apple on it's team, it must fire that person or it will lose business. When a cop is crooked, his fellow officers don't break the code. He stays on the force.

The toll roads are the good ones. The government roads suck ass.

It's totally obvious to me that in a free society we would have cleaner, cheaper, and more efficiently delivered water. But, even if you disagree, it doesn't matter. Prosperity is not as important as freedom. Even if you can create a "prosperous" system by forcing everyone to do things against their will, it doesn't make it any less immoral.

"Government" is totally fine as long as they don't force you to give them money. That's when it becomes immoral.
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Re: Missing Titanic Submersible

Post by DanielVogelbach » Wed Jun 28, 2023 4:36 pm

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Re: Missing Titanic Submersible

Post by DanielVogelbach » Wed Jun 28, 2023 4:38 pm

Toll Roads
Let’s talk about toll roads. Most people hate them because you have to stop and pay fees in exchange for the privelege of driving on them. But where does the money for these magical “free” government built roads come from? According to the American Road & Transportation Builders Association, it costs about $1 million per lane per mile in rural areas, scaling up by a factor of 10 in dense urban areas.

Now construction companies aren’t out there building these multimilion-dollar wonders of transportational freedom out of the goodness of their hearts… No, TANSTAAFL, they’re getting paid by state governments who receive subsidies from the federal government. Governments cannot materialize money out of thin air 1, so any money they have stolen must have come from taxes. Now consider the fact that, unless it is a perfect market oracle, the government must have collected money in such a way that some people pay more relative to their amount of use than others.

So what do subsidies have to do with toll roads? Well, for a non-subsidized toll road, the burden lies on the market to decide whether or not it will be profitable (and therefore whether it will continue to be maintained). People who don’t need to use it aren’t forced to pay for it, and those who are able to pay for their use get what they want. Everybody wins.

But without government, every road will be a toll road!

These are the words of someone who is afraid of having to pay the market value for their use of the roads. These words say “I want someone else to pay my fair share”. These are the words of a thief.

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Re: Missing Titanic Submersible

Post by douche » Wed Jun 28, 2023 4:40 pm

The inherent problem with most billionaires? Ego, power, entitlement. Once a person reaches a certain level of wealth, it changes them. These billionaires, with anything and everything in reach, eventually reach a point where there is no saturation level. The word, 'enough' doesn't exist in their vocabulary.

When you own 5 mansions around the world, a professional sports team, a private jet, a yacht, a helicopter, a fleet of vehicles... when you've engaged in all the thrill-seeking (skydiving, bungee jumping, diving with sharks)... when you've drank all the alcohol, done all the drugs, rubbed elbows with the elite and the celebs, attended all the functions and fucked all the supermodels... what's next?

These people are always looking for the next big thing, the next level of new and exciting. Why do you think Epstein island was a real thing?

And now this submarine trip/tragedy. Perhaps it's nature's attempt at karma. Or at the very least a reminder that we can't always have/do what we want without repercussions.

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Re: Missing Titanic Submersible

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Re: Missing Titanic Submersible

Post by DanielVogelbach » Wed Jun 28, 2023 4:44 pm

You also gotta ask yourself, "How is Amazon going to make money without roads?"

That will also help you visualize how the road building will work.

Peace, Love, Anarchy!

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Re: Missing Titanic Submersible

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Re: Missing Titanic Submersible

Post by maoling » Wed Jun 28, 2023 6:23 pm

Walla Walla Dawg II wrote:
Wed Jun 28, 2023 3:04 pm
I've asked him about:
Water supply
Roads
Law Enforcement

-crickets-
Read that one decades ago. It got the whole ball rolling.

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Re: Missing Titanic Submersible

Post by Donn Beach » Thu Jun 29, 2023 12:27 am

Good luck with reddit then

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Re: Missing Titanic Submersible

Post by Walla Walla Dawg II » Thu Jun 29, 2023 2:35 pm

DanielVogelbach wrote:
Wed Jun 28, 2023 4:38 pm
Toll Roads
Let’s talk about toll roads. Most people hate them because you have to stop and pay fees in exchange for the privelege of driving on them. But where does the money for these magical “free” government built roads come from? According to the American Road & Transportation Builders Association, it costs about $1 million per lane per mile in rural areas, scaling up by a factor of 10 in dense urban areas.

Now construction companies aren’t out there building these multimilion-dollar wonders of transportational freedom out of the goodness of their hearts… No, TANSTAAFL, they’re getting paid by state governments who receive subsidies from the federal government. Governments cannot materialize money out of thin air 1, so any money they have stolen must have come from taxes. Now consider the fact that, unless it is a perfect market oracle, the government must have collected money in such a way that some people pay more relative to their amount of use than others.

So what do subsidies have to do with toll roads? Well, for a non-subsidized toll road, the burden lies on the market to decide whether or not it will be profitable (and therefore whether it will continue to be maintained). People who don’t need to use it aren’t forced to pay for it, and those who are able to pay for their use get what they want. Everybody wins.

But without government, every road will be a toll road!

These are the words of someone who is afraid of having to pay the market value for their use of the roads. These words say “I want someone else to pay my fair share”. These are the words of a thief.
Please tell me your great idea on collecting the tolls?
If they set up video tolls, then a person just doesn't pay the toll.
IF there is a maned booth, just refuse to pay the toll and drive off.

Remember, in your version of the world there is no law enforcement....well except for your little city-states, and then only if they choose to pay someone to do it.

And what about long stretches of interstate where there isn't any real development to fund it? For instance the 250 miles of interstate between Los Angeles and Phoenix. Most of the people in LA will only care about their local roads, and most of the people in PHX will feel the same. So why fund the 250 miles of road between for the few that would use it? And believe me, there are not enough truck companies to fund the entire stretch of road.....and pay tolls....unless you don't mind paying $10.50 for a Snickers Bar.

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