The POTUS election betting markets

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Re: The POTUS election betting markets

Post by Seattle or Bust » Fri Oct 25, 2024 12:53 am

D-train wrote:
Thu Oct 24, 2024 11:44 pm
Remember when Elon bought twitter and laid off a bunch of people and all the Libs on twitter were wishing each other heartfelt good byes because they thought a website that basically runs itself was going to be destroyed and crash within weeks? Hilarious. lol
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/elon-mus ... 37347.html

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Re: The POTUS election betting markets

Post by auroraave » Fri Oct 25, 2024 12:48 pm

D-train wrote:
Thu Oct 24, 2024 11:29 pm
Seattle or Bust wrote:
Thu Oct 24, 2024 11:06 pm
D-train wrote:
Thu Oct 24, 2024 11:00 pm


I can understand why some people hate Trump but I can fathom why a single soul would LOVE Harris.
I don't love Harris. As I've said before, she's not Trump and that's compelling to me and I think the bulk of people who are going to vote for her. I think the same applied to Biden... nobody loved Biden, but they were so tired of Trump.

I'm OK with the status quo for the next 4 years if the alternative is potential chaos. It's my hope that we get some young, sane people running for office who have actual visions for progress in future elections.

I hope the country can finally return to a sense of normalcy with Trump gone.
He was gone for four years and there was complete Chaos. He isn't normal but the country will be more normal like it was from 2017-2019.

DT - you're arguing with a dude who demands others pay his bills and is literally triggered by people selling hats on the side of the road. Don't expect any rational conversation to be had. Anyone who has seen Kamala the last few weeks - she is absolutely collapsing on her tour - even CNN is calling her 'word salad city' and Anderson Cooper crushed her on a 'town hall that was so laughably bad for her. Pure comedy of ineptness. She is embarrassing. Her only answer to ANY question is TDS and NO ONE is buying it anymore. Polls are swinging in Trumps favor - not because we love trump - but because it is clear she is so so so so so much worse.

Trump is going on Rogan - the biggest podcast in the world. Where's Harris? No way in hell she could handle Rogan who is not a bought and paid for Dem shill - like the CNN's and MSNBC's - who are even turning on her now. If Trump is humble and engaging and funny on Rogan - that is a huge ('uuuuge) win for him. Objectively - I see Harris fading fast - she is so out of her league and it's pretty obvious to anyone being even remotely objective. When her safety net friends in the media are turning on her, when SNL is mocking her, when she's now known as 'word salad city' for her inability to ever answer a question, when the only card she has is "trump bad' instead of ANY policy ideas, when Trump, not her, is the one going on the worlds biggest podcast, it's time to read the tea leaves.

Remember - Harris has NO policy to stand on, she did nothing for 4 years, she was not nominated by the Dems, she was installed because Biden's numbers were cratering. Anyone with any bit of objectivity and rational thinking sees what in happening. You know who doesn't? The dude wanting you to pay his bills.

Choosing someone who you know has no policy standing and is utterly unqualified, is like a coach picking a QB even though he knows he can't throw the ball or read a playbook because he's 'mad' at the better option - it simply makes no sense at all and is ultimately an act of self destruction.

Here's who is voting for kamala - wrap your mind around her logic... utterly frightening.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DBRfaDNN ... FlZA%3D%3D

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Re: The POTUS election betting markets

Post by D-train » Fri Oct 25, 2024 3:12 pm

Seattle or Bust wrote:
Fri Oct 25, 2024 12:53 am
D-train wrote:
Thu Oct 24, 2024 11:44 pm
Remember when Elon bought twitter and laid off a bunch of people and all the Libs on twitter were wishing each other heartfelt good byes because they thought a website that basically runs itself was going to be destroyed and crash within weeks? Hilarious. lol
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/elon-mus ... 37347.html
I couldn't care less about the value. It never crashed and is as functional and more than it was we he bought it and it is not longer riddled with censorship.
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Re: The POTUS election betting markets

Post by Seattle or Bust » Fri Oct 25, 2024 5:46 pm

D-train wrote:
Fri Oct 25, 2024 3:12 pm
Seattle or Bust wrote:
Fri Oct 25, 2024 12:53 am
D-train wrote:
Thu Oct 24, 2024 11:44 pm
Remember when Elon bought twitter and laid off a bunch of people and all the Libs on twitter were wishing each other heartfelt good byes because they thought a website that basically runs itself was going to be destroyed and crash within weeks? Hilarious. lol
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/elon-mus ... 37347.html
I couldn't care less about the value. It never crashed and is as functional and more than it was we he bought it and it is not longer riddled with censorship.
Instead it's riddled with porn and conspiracy theorists needing constant community notes.

The website is a glorified cespool compared to what it used to be.

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Re: The POTUS election betting markets

Post by Seattle or Bust » Fri Oct 25, 2024 5:47 pm

auroraave wrote:
Fri Oct 25, 2024 12:48 pm
D-train wrote:
Thu Oct 24, 2024 11:29 pm
Seattle or Bust wrote:
Thu Oct 24, 2024 11:06 pm


I don't love Harris. As I've said before, she's not Trump and that's compelling to me and I think the bulk of people who are going to vote for her. I think the same applied to Biden... nobody loved Biden, but they were so tired of Trump.

I'm OK with the status quo for the next 4 years if the alternative is potential chaos. It's my hope that we get some young, sane people running for office who have actual visions for progress in future elections.

I hope the country can finally return to a sense of normalcy with Trump gone.
He was gone for four years and there was complete Chaos. He isn't normal but the country will be more normal like it was from 2017-2019.

DT - you're arguing with a dude who demands others pay his bills and is literally triggered by people selling hats on the side of the road. Don't expect any rational conversation to be had. Anyone who has seen Kamala the last few weeks - she is absolutely collapsing on her tour - even CNN is calling her 'word salad city' and Anderson Cooper crushed her on a 'town hall that was so laughably bad for her. Pure comedy of ineptness. She is embarrassing. Her only answer to ANY question is TDS and NO ONE is buying it anymore. Polls are swinging in Trumps favor - not because we love trump - but because it is clear she is so so so so so much worse.

Trump is going on Rogan - the biggest podcast in the world. Where's Harris? No way in hell she could handle Rogan who is not a bought and paid for Dem shill - like the CNN's and MSNBC's - who are even turning on her now. If Trump is humble and engaging and funny on Rogan - that is a huge ('uuuuge) win for him. Objectively - I see Harris fading fast - she is so out of her league and it's pretty obvious to anyone being even remotely objective. When her safety net friends in the media are turning on her, when SNL is mocking her, when she's now known as 'word salad city' for her inability to ever answer a question, when the only card she has is "trump bad' instead of ANY policy ideas, when Trump, not her, is the one going on the worlds biggest podcast, it's time to read the tea leaves.

Remember - Harris has NO policy to stand on, she did nothing for 4 years, she was not nominated by the Dems, she was installed because Biden's numbers were cratering. Anyone with any bit of objectivity and rational thinking sees what in happening. You know who doesn't? The dude wanting you to pay his bills.

Choosing someone who you know has no policy standing and is utterly unqualified, is like a coach picking a QB even though he knows he can't throw the ball or read a playbook because he's 'mad' at the better option - it simply makes no sense at all and is ultimately an act of self destruction.

Here's who is voting for kamala - wrap your mind around her logic... utterly frightening.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DBRfaDNN ... FlZA%3D%3D
1. You are asking for people to pay for far more of your bills with massive tax cuts. I have asked for the government to adjust student loans to more reasonable costs based on a variety of factors and to remove interest on government loans.
2. I am not triggered by people selling hats on the side of the road. I think it's emblematic of the cult of Trump that exists and I think it's sad.

But please keep misrepresenting my viewpoints. I'm sure others will believe you if you keep saying it over and over in the longest form possible.

Sometimes I really am just curious about what some of you look like. I can imagine you having constant tremors and being scared to leave your house because the deep state is watching and right around the corner.

Darren and I have rapport because he's a normal human. You on the other hand... fucking insane.

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Re: The POTUS election betting markets

Post by bpj » Fri Oct 25, 2024 7:33 pm

How is not giving your money to the government by way of tax cuts asking other people to pay your bills?

That makes no sense.

On the other hand, you actually signed up for your student loans.

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Re: The POTUS election betting markets

Post by Seattle or Bust » Sat Oct 26, 2024 12:06 am

bpj wrote:
Fri Oct 25, 2024 7:33 pm
How is not giving your money to the government by way of tax cuts asking other people to pay your bills?

That makes no sense.

On the other hand, you actually signed up for your student loans.
Yeah... I just find libertarian arguments incredibly stupid... which is where it sounds like you're going.

For the millionth time, I'm not asking for the government to "pay for my student loans." I'm asking for them to adjust them to fairer rates based on a variety of factors. I'm happy to pay back what my degree is worth.

Yeah, I did sign up for my student loans. I realize folks who are 50+ that didn't need a degree for entry into lucrative spaces of the work force aren't gonna get it. Buying a home for 14 raspberries while sporting a high school degree had to be wonderful in 1993.

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Re: The POTUS election betting markets

Post by D-train » Sat Oct 26, 2024 12:30 am

Seattle or Bust wrote:
Sat Oct 26, 2024 12:06 am
bpj wrote:
Fri Oct 25, 2024 7:33 pm
How is not giving your money to the government by way of tax cuts asking other people to pay your bills?

That makes no sense.

On the other hand, you actually signed up for your student loans.
Yeah... I just find libertarian arguments incredibly stupid... which is where it sounds like you're going.

For the millionth time, I'm not asking for the government to "pay for my student loans." I'm asking for them to adjust them to fairer rates based on a variety of factors. I'm happy to pay back what my degree is worth.

Yeah, I did sign up for my student loans. I realize folks who are 50+ that didn't need a degree for entry into lucrative spaces of the work force aren't gonna get it. Buying a home for 14 raspberries while sporting a high school degree had to be wonderful in 1993.
I never had student dept. I worked and joined the Army reserve and Got the GI Bill. My blue collar parents who combined to make about $50k a year paid about half. Tuition was reasonable back then. The blame is firmly on the Colleges and Universities that jacked tuition because they knew students could pay almost unlimited amounts due unchecked student loans. Let Harvard with their $50 billion endowment and other ridiculously wealthy schools pay for their sins.
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Re: The POTUS election betting markets

Post by Seattle or Bust » Sat Oct 26, 2024 12:43 am

D-train wrote:
Sat Oct 26, 2024 12:30 am
Seattle or Bust wrote:
Sat Oct 26, 2024 12:06 am
bpj wrote:
Fri Oct 25, 2024 7:33 pm
How is not giving your money to the government by way of tax cuts asking other people to pay your bills?

That makes no sense.

On the other hand, you actually signed up for your student loans.
Yeah... I just find libertarian arguments incredibly stupid... which is where it sounds like you're going.

For the millionth time, I'm not asking for the government to "pay for my student loans." I'm asking for them to adjust them to fairer rates based on a variety of factors. I'm happy to pay back what my degree is worth.

Yeah, I did sign up for my student loans. I realize folks who are 50+ that didn't need a degree for entry into lucrative spaces of the work force aren't gonna get it. Buying a home for 14 raspberries while sporting a high school degree had to be wonderful in 1993.
I never had student dept. I worked and joined the Army reserve and Got the GI Bill. My blue collar parents who combined to make about $50k a year paid about half. Tuition was reasonable back then. The blame is firmly on the Colleges and Universities that jacked tuition because they knew students could pay almost unlimited amounts due unchecked student loans. Let Harvard with their $50 billion endowment and other ridiculously wealthy schools pay for their sins.
I agree. Tuition was reasonable back then.

Education shouldn't act as a barrier to your success. Which is my whole point. Like I said, I'm happy to pay a fair rate for my degree. I'm not asking for a free education, just fair value. However that gets worked out.

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Re: The POTUS election betting markets

Post by bpj » Sat Oct 26, 2024 2:44 am

Seattle or Bust wrote:
Sat Oct 26, 2024 12:06 am
bpj wrote:
Fri Oct 25, 2024 7:33 pm
How is not giving your money to the government by way of tax cuts asking other people to pay your bills?

That makes no sense.

On the other hand, you actually signed up for your student loans.
Yeah... I just find libertarian arguments incredibly stupid... which is where it sounds like you're going.

For the millionth time, I'm not asking for the government to "pay for my student loans." I'm asking for them to adjust them to fairer rates based on a variety of factors. I'm happy to pay back what my degree is worth.

Yeah, I did sign up for my student loans. I realize folks who are 50+ that didn't need a degree for entry into lucrative spaces of the work force aren't gonna get it. Buying a home for 14 raspberries while sporting a high school degree had to be wonderful in 1993.
We don't get it because we would have taken a look at the cost of the student loan and weighed it against the future returns before taking the loan in the first place.

If your degree's not worth what you paid for it, that's YOUR fault. You wanted to be in that "lucrative space of the work force". So lucrative you can't pay back what you borrowed to get there... Makes a ton of sense.

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