Doge

[Mel Bradford]

It's a thinning of the herd. Pretty simple really. Everyone on this chat could scribble out 5 items in a minute, give or take. Why is this so difficult for our Federal workers ?? They have the time and the means....except for the 'employees' .....who aren't there. Bingo

[ddraig]

In the past four years, the individuals employed by the Federal Government in the workforce has grown by 40% Why? Is the government doing more work for US? Or is it becoming more controlling? Do we really need 87,000 armed IRS agents checking to ensure my sainted grandmother paid all her taxes on her Government SS check?

[Coeurd’Alene J]

[gil]

In the past four years, the individuals employed by the Federal Government in the workforce has grown by 40% Why? Is the government doing more work for US? Or is it becoming more controlling? Do we really need 87,000 armed IRS agents checking to ensure my sainted grandmother paid all her taxes on her Government SS check?

This story says the 40% number is exaggerated:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 187967007/

It says that the federal workforce grew approximately 5% -- from 2.89 million to 3.02 million -- during Biden's term.

It also says that the federal workforce was over 3 million from 1985 to 1994.

[Coeurd’Alene J]

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[Mel Bradford]

Amen

[Mel Bradford]

Oh, this is choice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLQc2dYikyU

40 million a week to the Taliban ????

NGO's (which are really government funded organizations) are in for a colonoscopy, a lobotomy and a cremation.

[ddraig]

In the past four years, the individuals employed by the Federal Government in the workforce has grown by 40% Why? Is the government doing more work for US? Or is it becoming more controlling? Do we really need 87,000 armed IRS agents checking to ensure my sainted grandmother paid all her taxes on her Government SS check?

This story says the 40% number is exaggerated:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 187967007/

It says that the federal workforce grew approximately 5% -- from 2.89 million to 3.02 million -- during Biden's term.

It also says that the federal workforce was over 3 million from 1985 to 1994.

OK, so your article is different than the one I read. Still, can you agree that Federal employment is bloated? That government has become too large and that it isn't Congress or the President that are running the country but a bloated bureaucracy making specious rules that we have to abide by? 5% or 40%, the Bureaucracy is tool large and needs to be cut back.

According to Pew Research and the chart I viewed, the Federal workforce grew from around 2M in 2000 to over 3M in 2024. Why? Is the workload that much more? Or are additional unvoted rules on us needed? Or wanted?

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads ... l-workers/

[gil]

In the past four years, the individuals employed by the Federal Government in the workforce has grown by 40% Why? Is the government doing more work for US? Or is it becoming more controlling? Do we really need 87,000 armed IRS agents checking to ensure my sainted grandmother paid all her taxes on her Government SS check?

This story says the 40% number is exaggerated:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 187967007/

It says that the federal workforce grew approximately 5% -- from 2.89 million to 3.02 million -- during Biden's term.

It also says that the federal workforce was over 3 million from 1985 to 1994.

OK, so your article is different than the one I read. Still, can you agree that Federal employment is bloated? That government has become too large and that it isn't Congress or the President that are running the country but a bloated bureaucracy making specious rules that we have to abide by? 5% or 40%, the Bureaucracy is tool large and needs to be cut back.

According to Pew Research and the chart I viewed, the Federal workforce grew from around 2M in 2000 to over 3M in 2024. Why? Is the workload that much more? Or are additional unvoted rules on us needed? Or wanted?

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads ... l-workers/

Do you mean this chart from Pew Research?

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It shows 3M in 2024, but the 2M in 2000 excludes USPS. At least that is how I read it.

If I say there is waste and bloat, just understand that I am saying that without real evidence. I say this based on working with and for some large private companies, and there is always waste in a large organization. I'm pretty sure the federal workforce was decreased during tear Clinton administration, and things didn't fall apart.

Prof. Cliff Mass had an interesting post the other day about NOAA, which he has said many times is ineffective and inefficient. I'll find the link if you are interested, but his main argument is that you don't get rid of the waste just by making drastic cuts across the board, or laying off probationary employees, or other crude steps like that. Mass argues that you should have a deep knowledge of what the organization does well, where the weakness are, etc. Then base cuts on that.

[Mel Bradford]

DOGE 2.0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKw15wIRea8

The long list of pathetically wasteful NGO projects around the globe (10's of thousands)....point to something deeper....
On paper (fictional example) 1 million dollars per year to advance mushroom farming in Peru .....is just a front....high probability the funding went to another cause or interest. This is the first time the line items are getting a closer look.