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Re: Get woke go broke

Post by D-train » Mon Jan 16, 2023 2:17 pm

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Re: Get woke go broke

Post by ddraig » Mon Jan 16, 2023 6:34 pm

Since March of 2021 when Disney announced they were going to put "alternative" genders in all their work, their stock has dropped by half. It went from just under $200 per share to $99 per share. It seems to me that entertainment companies coming out of the covid scam would likely increase profits, not decrease.

Bob Iger stepped down in 2021, turning the CEO position over to Bob Chapek. Chapek initiated a feud with Florida Governor Ron DeSantis and all hell broke loose when Disney Directors announced they would be adding "alternative lifestyle" characters to everything they do. Disney stock collapsed to half its stock worth as people sold off their shares. Chapek was canned and Iger is back in charge. They haven't recovered yet, but my guess is that Disney will shift to a more conservative and mainstream entertainment style. Probably not as overtly LBGTQRSUVWXYZ+++++ as they are today. Get woke and the result may very well be you can go broke!

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Re: Get woke go broke

Post by auroraave » Mon Jan 16, 2023 7:04 pm

ddraig wrote:
Mon Jan 16, 2023 6:34 pm
Since March of 2021 when Disney announced they were going to put "alternative" genders in all their work, their stock has dropped by half. It went from just under $200 per share to $99 per share. It seems to me that entertainment companies coming out of the covid scam would likely increase profits, not decrease.

Bob Iger stepped down in 2021, turning the CEO position over to Bob Chapek. Chapek initiated a feud with Florida Governor Ron DeSantis and all hell broke loose when Disney Directors announced they would be adding "alternative lifestyle" characters to everything they do. Disney stock collapsed to half its stock worth as people sold off their shares. Chapek was canned and Iger is back in charge. They haven't recovered yet, but my guess is that Disney will shift to a more conservative and mainstream entertainment style. Probably not as overtly LBGTQRSUVWXYZ+++++ as they are today. Get woke and the result may very well be you can go broke!
When and where did Disney announce they were putting 'alt lifestyle' characters in everything? Please show me this announcement. You are also completely ignoring that, litetally, everyones stock has tanked during covid - all the nets and streamers are in the shitter. The entire market has collapsed - ignor Hing that to sell the "Disney is woke therefore that's why they are going broke" narrative simply doesn't make it true - you are ignoring ALL context and other majpor factors. Chapek didn't initiate anything - he wanted to dial it back but caved - and I don't know why.

I should make it clear that I cannot stand Disney - I don't like thier content, I have friends there, I spent a minute there when they bought FOX (I was at Fox Films) and then they layed us all off, so I am in NO WAY defending them, but there is a lot of wildly inaccurate info dropping in here. Chapek getting scapegoated. Iger built up all the assets in acquiring Pixar, FOX, Lucasfilms, and solidified thier entry into the streaming space (the reason for the FOX acquisition) then turned the CO over to Chapek who comes from the theme park side - the next wave of growth for the mouse house. My overall impression of Disney was it was creepy - like a cult of personality - and one of the lower paying places in h'wood with almost NO upward mobility. I cannot fathom why that would be anyone's destination of choice.

The woke nonsense will drive consumers away - for sure - and it is surprising to me that Disney would ever entertain any of that nonsense - but what you don't know is that Disney is largely held by the balls by the HR department (longer convo) and when have those people ever been competent? They find a 'trrend' and embrace it fully - because HR people are f*cking idiots that would not be working in HR is they had ANY real skill set. Iger probably is the one whjo has the balls to reverse course - while saying all the right things that won't 'offend' the usual on-line idiots looking for a soundbite to exploit.

I could tell you a thousands stories about disney. The worst part about teh FOX acquisition is that FOX was really the last studio to put out killer content that wasnlt 100% "IP" based. It's a shame. If you go to Hulu - where Disney put all the Fox content they acquired - that is literally all thye good content. Searchlight, etal (the fox shingles) are still putting out the best stuff - even though they were absorbed by disney

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Re: Get woke go broke

Post by Walla Walla Dawg II » Mon Jan 16, 2023 9:33 pm

I know very little about this publication, but....
March 30, 2022

Los Angles Magazine
https://www.lamag.com/citythinkblog/dis ... presented/

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Re: Get woke go broke

Post by auroraave » Tue Jan 17, 2023 12:55 am

Walla Walla Dawg II wrote:
Mon Jan 16, 2023 9:33 pm
I know very little about this publication, but....
March 30, 2022

Los Angles Magazine
https://www.lamag.com/citythinkblog/dis ... presented/
wow that is messed up. I would bet money that this is a pretty isolated incident of a rogue exec making deciusions that do not reflect the company's goals - because that in itself will only hurt the bottom line in the long run. No way Iger is on board with this stuff - he's a pretty conservative old white dude - he ain't woke even if he won't publicly denounce that - and he would know this is a brand-killing ideology. Now imagine if Iger wants to remove her - and how hard that would be without cause. Disney has absolutely cut their own wrists on content and dicking around in Fla, but now the backlash is financial and that's where the buck stops. I klnow abou a dozen people at Disney - none are like Kerry Burke - I didn't even know she was that mental. Imagine that - you ruin your children's lives, so you feel it's best to ruin more. The sad thing is people at Disney will go along with it because they want to keep thier jobs - it's more prolific than people realize - especially in this gutless town. I'd really like to know what Iger is doing behind the scenes - he HAS to know this ends poorly, I mean this is basic supply and demand type stuff - not to mention the bizarre 'integration' that goes against the Disney brand of "content safe for kids".

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Re: Get woke go broke

Post by DanielVogelbach » Tue Jan 17, 2023 4:39 am

auroraave wrote:
Tue Jan 17, 2023 12:55 am
Walla Walla Dawg II wrote:
Mon Jan 16, 2023 9:33 pm
I know very little about this publication, but....
March 30, 2022

Los Angles Magazine
https://www.lamag.com/citythinkblog/dis ... presented/
wow that is messed up. I would bet money that this is a pretty isolated incident of a rogue exec making deciusions that do not reflect the company's goals - because that in itself will only hurt the bottom line in the long run. No way Iger is on board with this stuff - he's a pretty conservative old white dude - he ain't woke even if he won't publicly denounce that - and he would know this is a brand-killing ideology. Now imagine if Iger wants to remove her - and how hard that would be without cause. Disney has absolutely cut their own wrists on content and dicking around in Fla, but now the backlash is financial and that's where the buck stops. I klnow abou a dozen people at Disney - none are like Kerry Burke - I didn't even know she was that mental. Imagine that - you ruin your children's lives, so you feel it's best to ruin more. The sad thing is people at Disney will go along with it because they want to keep thier jobs - it's more prolific than people realize - especially in this gutless town. I'd really like to know what Iger is doing behind the scenes - he HAS to know this ends poorly, I mean this is basic supply and demand type stuff - not to mention the bizarre 'integration' that goes against the Disney brand of "content safe for kids".
It doesn't end poorly for THEM. This is their plan. They're not making mistakes. Disney has a seat at the creepy table. This is what they want. It has nothing to do with supply and demand. It has to do with pushing an agenda.

Of course they know that the fans don't want the woke stuff. They have AI that can scan social media. They know what the reaction will be before they release this stuff. They have access to the greatest writers and creative minds around. They could be making amazing content that everyone loves. But, it's a top-down agenda from the creepiest, darkest places of power. If it's not a woke theme, then it's pushing lies about history or nationalist propaganda. The tell-lie vision and Hollyweird are two of the biggest mind-control weapons they've got.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tymDmu2gy18

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Re: Get woke go broke

Post by ddraig » Wed Jan 18, 2023 6:43 am

auroraave wrote:
Mon Jan 16, 2023 7:04 pm
ddraig wrote:
Mon Jan 16, 2023 6:34 pm
Since March of 2021 when Disney announced they were going to put "alternative" genders in all their work, their stock has dropped by half. It went from just under $200 per share to $99 per share. It seems to me that entertainment companies coming out of the covid scam would likely increase profits, not decrease.

Bob Iger stepped down in 2021, turning the CEO position over to Bob Chapek. Chapek initiated a feud with Florida Governor Ron DeSantis and all hell broke loose when Disney Directors announced they would be adding "alternative lifestyle" characters to everything they do. Disney stock collapsed to half its stock worth as people sold off their shares. Chapek was canned and Iger is back in charge. They haven't recovered yet, but my guess is that Disney will shift to a more conservative and mainstream entertainment style. Probably not as overtly LBGTQRSUVWXYZ+++++ as they are today. Get woke and the result may very well be you can go broke!
When and where did Disney announce they were putting 'alt lifestyle' characters in everything? Please show me this announcement. You are also completely ignoring that, litetally, everyones stock has tanked during covid - all the nets and streamers are in the shitter. The entire market has collapsed - ignor Hing that to sell the "Disney is woke therefore that's why they are going broke" narrative simply doesn't make it true - you are ignoring ALL context and other majpor factors. Chapek didn't initiate anything - he wanted to dial it back but caved - and I don't know why.

I should make it clear that I cannot stand Disney - I don't like thier content, I have friends there, I spent a minute there when they bought FOX (I was at Fox Films) and then they layed us all off, so I am in NO WAY defending them, but there is a lot of wildly inaccurate info dropping in here. Chapek getting scapegoated. Iger built up all the assets in acquiring Pixar, FOX, Lucasfilms, and solidified thier entry into the streaming space (the reason for the FOX acquisition) then turned the CO over to Chapek who comes from the theme park side - the next wave of growth for the mouse house. My overall impression of Disney was it was creepy - like a cult of personality - and one of the lower paying places in h'wood with almost NO upward mobility. I cannot fathom why that would be anyone's destination of choice.

The woke nonsense will drive consumers away - for sure - and it is surprising to me that Disney would ever entertain any of that nonsense - but what you don't know is that Disney is largely held by the balls by the HR department (longer convo) and when have those people ever been competent? They find a 'trrend' and embrace it fully - because HR people are f*cking idiots that would not be working in HR is they had ANY real skill set. Iger probably is the one whjo has the balls to reverse course - while saying all the right things that won't 'offend' the usual on-line idiots looking for a soundbite to exploit.

I could tell you a thousands stories about disney. The worst part about teh FOX acquisition is that FOX was really the last studio to put out killer content that wasnlt 100% "IP" based. It's a shame. If you go to Hulu - where Disney put all the Fox content they acquired - that is literally all thye good content. Searchlight, etal (the fox shingles) are still putting out the best stuff - even though they were absorbed by disney
https://nypost.com/2022/04/08/disney-ex ... s-queerer/

https://nypost.com/2022/03/30/disney-ex ... character/

https://news.yahoo.com/disney-executive ... 09498.html

https://joepags.com/news/disney-execs-b ... ay-agenda/

https://canoe.com/news/world/woke-watch ... 06e3c6d27b

https://timcast.com/news/disney-announc ... -children/

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/20 ... -gay-agen/

https://torontosun.com/news/world/woke- ... nd-of-year

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/silen ... ar-AAZPIqE

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/0 ... ls-emails/

Had enough?????

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Re: Get woke go broke

Post by auroraave » Wed Jan 18, 2023 4:36 pm

DanielVogelbach wrote:
Tue Jan 17, 2023 4:39 am
auroraave wrote:
Tue Jan 17, 2023 12:55 am
Walla Walla Dawg II wrote:
Mon Jan 16, 2023 9:33 pm
I know very little about this publication, but....
March 30, 2022

Los Angles Magazine
https://www.lamag.com/citythinkblog/dis ... presented/
wow that is messed up. I would bet money that this is a pretty isolated incident of a rogue exec making deciusions that do not reflect the company's goals - because that in itself will only hurt the bottom line in the long run. No way Iger is on board with this stuff - he's a pretty conservative old white dude - he ain't woke even if he won't publicly denounce that - and he would know this is a brand-killing ideology. Now imagine if Iger wants to remove her - and how hard that would be without cause. Disney has absolutely cut their own wrists on content and dicking around in Fla, but now the backlash is financial and that's where the buck stops. I klnow abou a dozen people at Disney - none are like Kerry Burke - I didn't even know she was that mental. Imagine that - you ruin your children's lives, so you feel it's best to ruin more. The sad thing is people at Disney will go along with it because they want to keep thier jobs - it's more prolific than people realize - especially in this gutless town. I'd really like to know what Iger is doing behind the scenes - he HAS to know this ends poorly, I mean this is basic supply and demand type stuff - not to mention the bizarre 'integration' that goes against the Disney brand of "content safe for kids".
It doesn't end poorly for THEM. This is their plan. They're not making mistakes. Disney has a seat at the creepy table. This is what they want. It has nothing to do with supply and demand. It has to do with pushing an agenda.

Of course they know that the fans don't want the woke stuff. They have AI that can scan social media. They know what the reaction will be before they release this stuff. They have access to the greatest writers and creative minds around. They could be making amazing content that everyone loves. But, it's a top-down agenda from the creepiest, darkest places of power. If it's not a woke theme, then it's pushing lies about history or nationalist propaganda. The tell-lie vision and Hollyweird are two of the biggest mind-control weapons they've got.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tymDmu2gy18
What specifically is the plan? what is the agenda? From my perspective, there are a small minority of woketards in Hollywood, they are in positions of decision making, they have people that will go along blindly because they want to keep their jobs. There is also large contingent who go along but dont agree with any of it. My personal experience, and what I have seen, leads me to believe one thing - it is about the money. It is always about the money.

with all due respoect, you have no idea how a movie gets greenlit. Most films have private financiers - the only way they finance the movie is if you can show them models that lead to a profit. That is 100% of the time. NO ONE is financing a film they don't think will make money. You don't understand the risk involved - and no financier will jump on a project they think goes against supply and demand. And studios spend months and $$$$ screening ALL movies for test audiences - they know exactly how they will respond because they witness it first hand. Yhis is nhow they nfigure out how to market the film - which is takes massive amount of $$$. Studios rarely fully finance anything - it's about risk reduction. That's why you see so many "produced by' logos in the credits for financiers like A24, etc - it's sharing the risk. These places need to make thier money back or they go under.

Whatever malevolent agenda you think is going on - it is 100% about the money. A few morons pushing woke nonsense through for thier own self satisfaction and stupidity, is a fraction of what is getting made. No one is throwing their career away on something they 'know' will bomb, but they still push through for the sake of 'the agenda', whatever that is. This is a business. You;re free to hold whatever views you wish, but you have no idea at all how films and TV get made. Educate yourself on that first, then you'll see it's like everything else - about the money. It's always about the money.

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Re: Get woke go broke

Post by ddraig » Wed Jan 18, 2023 6:15 pm

And that is why Chapek was canned and Iger took over at Disney. Iger and others could see what was going to happe because the woketards suddenly found they had power thay didn't actually have. Money talks. Especially at Disney!

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Re: Get woke go broke

Post by DanielVogelbach » Thu Jan 19, 2023 7:01 am

I agree 100% that much of it is implemented via follow the leader. For the minions of the system, they might very well be focused on money or fame. But, when analyzing the dark forces influencing reality, "It's about the money" is a first grade explanation. The people that control what you see and hear don't need money. They already control the central banks and the governments under a one world system of control. They also control the media and use it to push various themes and agendas.

But, on top of pushing agendas, there's simply the concept of taking something people love and destroying it. Weaving woke themes into beloved franchises is a sure-fire way to make something bad on purpose. If it just happened once or twice, then maybe it's a mistake. But, it's over and over and over again. They know exactly how this crap will be received by audiences. It's not content made bad by mistake. It's being made bad on purpose.

I gotta give credit to Matt at QOC for going hard on the "bad on purpose" topic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tymDmu2gy18&t=29s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HXMGIBshrs&t=1502s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLALaneYZkY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6Xx86vfY1I

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