January 6th prime time shit show

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Re: January 6th prime time shit show

Post by gil » Mon Aug 08, 2022 7:17 pm

I agree, I'd like to see light shed on this stuff. It's a problem as far as I'm concerned that we don't get to see engagement on many of the things that have been brought tup in the hearings, as well as engagement on something like this that has not been brought up. Thanks for posting.

But two things I'm seeing: #1 Christopher Miller, who was the Acting Secretary of Defense, said that Trump never gave those orders https://news.yahoo.com/trump-never-gave ... 59789.html and #2, I think it is pretty clear that the President, not the Speaker of the House, is in charge of the DC National Guard. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/District_ ... onal_Guard
Walla Walla Dawg II wrote:
Wed Jul 27, 2022 4:21 pm
For Gil,
Below is a timeline of the Trump White House request of national guard assistance.....:
[bet they won't go over this in the public shit show they are now doing]

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/capit ... d/1080453/

If former President Donald Trump's word is not enough, an official Capitol Police timeline and Pentagon memo also back up his assertion that he authorized the use of the National Guard in the days before the Jan. 6 Capitol breach.

Trump and several of his aides have steadfastly maintained he offered to send at least 10,000 National Guard troops to Washington to aid in crowd control, but his overture was rejected by Congress and D.C. officials.

That version of events has been disputed by the House Jan. 6 select committee — composed entirely of Democrats and Republicans who have criticized Trump. That group has alleged Trump that ultimately instigated what it terms an "insurrection," and committee members argue there is no evidence Trump made such an authorization for National Guard troops, or that anyone stood in the way of an order if one was made.

Trump disputes leading any violent protests and points to a speech just before the Capitol breach at which he urged supporters to protest "peacefully and patriotically."

An official timeline of the events leading up to Jan. 6 that was constructed by the Capitol Police and the Pentagon provides key evidence Trump and his administration took steps to provide National Guard troops and sought to have a peaceful event, contrary to the House committee's claims.

Here is a breakdown of the timeline:

• The Pentagon first offered National Guard troops to the Capitol Police on Jan. 2. A Department of Defense official contacted Capitol Police Deputy Chief Sean Gallagher to see if a request for troops was forthcoming, but the offer was quickly rejected after a discussion with then-Chief Steve Sund.

• The sole entry on Jan. 2 in the Capitol Police timeline states: "Carol Corbin (DOD) texts USCP Deputy Chief Sean Gallagher, Protective Service Bureau, to determine whether USCP is considering a request for National Guard soldiers for Jan. 6, 2021 event."

• On Jan. 3, Capitol Police released an updated security assessment regarding the upcoming rally, which indicated a chance of armed protesters. "Due to the tense political environment following the 2020 election, the threat of disruptive actions or violence cannot be ruled out," it stated. "Supporters of the current president see Jan. 6, 2021 as the last opportunity to overturn the results of the presidential election. This sense of desperation and disappointment may lead to more of an incentive to become violent."

• On Jan. 4, Sund started seeking permission for security assistance from Senate Sergeant-at-Arms Michael Stenger and House Sergeant-at-Arms Paul Irving. His request was denied. He notified Gen. William Walker, commander of the D.C. National Guard,
about the need for support. But the timeline stated that Sund "does not have the authority to request at this time." Walker told Sund, if the chief could get approval from Capitol officials, he could deploy 125 troops.

• As Sund's requests were being rebuffed, the Pentagon was moving ahead with its own plans to get Trump to authorize National Guard troops if Congress requested them. According to a memo penned by the Pentagon inspector general, the Defense Department offered Congress assistance before Jan. 6.

• On Sunday, Jan. 3, then-acting Defense Secretary Christopher Miller, Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Gen. Mark Milley, White House chief of staff Mark Meadows and chief of staff for the Department of Defense Kash Patel met with Trump on national security matters. Toward the end of the meeting, Trump brought up the number of protesters expected on Jan. 6 and discussed making sure it was a safe event by providing a National Guard presence.

• A Vanity Fair reporter who followed Miller in the last weeks of Trump's administration detailed the remark in a report published later. The reporter indicated the exchange took place Jan. 5, while the inspector general placed it on Jan. 3. After discussing Iran, the Vanity Fair report stated that the conversation suddenly "switched gears" when Trump asked Miller how many troops the Pentagon was planning to deploy on Jan. 6.

When Miller told the president they would supply any National Guard support that was requested, Trump replied: "You're going to need 10,000 people." Under the law, a president can authorize the use of the National Guard; however, local officials must request the National Guard for domestic deployment.

• The inspector general's memo also provided insight into officials' fears about involving the National Guard due to concerns it could create the perception of a military coup or martial law being instituted as the election results were certified by Congress. Army Secretary Ryan McCarthy told the inspector he "did not want to create the perception that the military was involved in the electoral process," according to the memo.

• On Jan. 5, Washington Mayor Muriel Bowser wrote a letter to Miller and other officials at the Justice and Defense departments asking that National Guard troops not be deployed unless the local Metropolitan Police Department signed off.

"To be clear, the District of Columbia is not requesting other federal law enforcement personnel and discourages any additional deployment without immediate notification to and consultation with MPD, if such plans are underway," Bowser wrote in her letter.

She noted that the Metropolitan Police Department was "well-trained and prepared to lead the way" to ensure the safety of anyone present at the scheduled Jan. 6 political rallies.

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Re: January 6th prime time shit show

Post by ddraig » Tue Aug 09, 2022 1:21 am

The FBI raided Mar-al-Lago today. I would think that almost anything they find would be inadmissible as evidence because they could be "Presidential Papers."

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Re: January 6th prime time shit show

Post by Coeurd’Alene J » Tue Aug 09, 2022 1:39 am

ddraig wrote:
Tue Aug 09, 2022 1:21 am
The FBI raided Mar-al-Lago today. I would think that almost anything they find would be inadmissible as evidence because they could be "Presidential Papers."
When you raid the office of a former President. You know your country has tipped over the edge

Fuck every Democrat.

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Post by ddraig » Tue Aug 09, 2022 3:02 am

I will never, ever again vote for ANY Democrat. And whoever we get as President in 2024 had better been taking his Viagra pills to clean out the FBI, CIA, and the IRS. Bring the miscreants up on charges. And if they can go into Trump's home, then the first order of business should be to go after Biden and raid his home.

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Re: January 6th prime time shit show

Post by maoling » Tue Aug 09, 2022 6:16 pm

ddraig wrote:
Tue Aug 09, 2022 3:02 am
I will never, ever again vote for ANY Democrat. And whoever we get as President in 2024 had better been taking his Viagra pills to clean out the FBI, CIA, and the IRS. Bring the miscreants up on charges. And if they can go into Trump's home, then the first order of business should be to go after Biden and raid his home.

Yup, never again, but I hope Tulsi jumps ship and lands to starboard.

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Re: January 6th prime time shit show

Post by Mel Bradford » Wed May 10, 2023 8:52 pm

(almost) UNBELIEVABLE

Look what the FBI has been spending their time on. Finding a young female with a pink beret who attended the Jan 6th event at the Nations Capitol.

And to the glee of our reprobate press...they found her and charged her with four misdemeanors.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/myste ... 6a7c&ei=36

Oh, the collective sigh of relief that another white supremacist/ insurrectionist who stormed the capitol has been charged. Yeah, all 80 lbs of her.

What a sick F-ing bureaucracy.

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Re: January 6th prime time shit show

Post by douche » Wed May 10, 2023 9:42 pm

Not much different from the trucker convoy in Canada. Trudeau and his cronies went after people for a whole lot of nothing, and froze the bank accounts of the people who donated to the convoy in support.

Savin' the world. :roll:

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Re: January 6th prime time shit show

Post by Mel Bradford » Thu May 11, 2023 12:34 am

well.....at least we understand how and why a once civilized and orderly nation.....developed a Gestapo and terrorized its own people.

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Re: January 6th prime time shit show

Post by Mel Bradford » Thu May 11, 2023 12:57 pm

Trudeau demonstrates what an unchecked tyrant can do. Freezing the bank accounts of the political opposition (truckers and supporters) is a power not given. And can only exist in a relative unitary system, i.e. One party rule.

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