It doesn't matter who becomes president. What matters is people's belief in the myth of authority. Lawmakers have no power without order followers.
"Government" is organized crime. All taxation is theft. No different than a mafia extorting businesses and offering "protection". If you can't opt out, then it's extortion. You can't morally force someone to give you money without their consent. This is the basis of contract law. Statutory law has no legitimacy. Where does the authority come from? The Constitution? Lol. There were about 2 million people living in the USA when the Constitution was formed. Did they all sign off on it? Or, was it a bunch of wealthy people coming together to plan out how to screw everyone. Moreover, they don't actually follow that thing.
We are currently far less free than we were under colonial rule. Far more taxes. Far more laws and regulations. Moreover, during the period of serfdom, serfs gave up 25% of their crops. We are currently giving up far more than half our wealth when you add up sales tax, property tax, income tax, capital gains tax, and don't forget inflation. We work, and they take. Government creates zero wealth. All they do is steal from the economy. We don't need any "government". All we need is a truly free market. The idea that putting people in charge to control the free market will only serve to create corruption. But, nobody can be in charge without order followers. We can blame the 100 Senators in Washington, but they are powerless without everyone obeying their commands. You can blame the politicians for starting a war, but there's no war without soldiers enlisting.
The birth certificate makes you property of the state. Public school is an indoctrination camp. The entire system is criminal. It doesn't matter if you support the right or the left. As long as you support the legitimacy of the authority to make "laws" and tax you and create fiat currency, then nothing will ever change. If voting mattered, then they wouldn't let you do it. The real power is in the shadows.
Politicians are all puppets and the "countries" are a total stage show as well. All wars are planned out by the so-called elites. It's a one world system. It's a simple formula, you create the threat of war, so you can justify "government". It's all orchestrated, and as soon as people stop showing loyalty to their country and realize it's a one-world system the better. Stop worshipping the flags. Stop legitimizing criminal activity. The only difference between a government and organized crime is that people recognize the mafia as immoral, but due to conditioning they're unable to see that government is the exact same thing only more powerful because people believe in their mythological authority. They have no moral authority to rule over us. Voting doesn't change anything. Voting only serves to show you support the system and the seats of power. What changes things is when you stop following orders, stop paying taxes, stop signing up for government jobs, etc.
We don't need government, and we don't need a president. We just need out tax money back. The idea that people in government know how to spend your money better than you do is a complete joke. It's fine for people to pool their money for things, but it should all be done on a voluntary basis. Government is nothing but criminal force.
Look into voluntaryism. The movement is growing. The best result of an election would be if nobody showed up to vote. But, election after election people buy into this crap. They think that the results actually make a difference in the direction of government. And, they think their vote is their main tool to make changes. It's probably the least impactful thing you could ever do if you want change. If you really want change, try to convince all of your neighbors to grow food at home using heirloom seeds. Stop watching television programming and start learning practical skills. Take your kids out of government schools. Avoid paying taxes. Use the black / free market. Barter for goods. Use private crypto currencies. Use gold and silver. Do whatever you can to rely less on the system.
Government is latin for mind control. Everything about it sucks, and it causes 99% of the world's problems. We don't need government, we need freedom. We are not the land of the free, we are the land of debt-based slavery and the massive fiat currency scam. We are the land of being born into a 27 trillion dollar eternal debt and being forced to pay taxes on the interest. Government doesn't provide freedom. That's a contradiction. Freedom is the absence of government.
All government sucks, but by far the worst we deal with in USA is the Federal government. They tax the crap out of us and the only result we get is the military, but still also a massive national debt. There's not enough currency in circulation to pay off the debt, and the only way to create more currency is by adding more debt. All fiat currency is loaned into existence. It's all debt. The only real money is gold and silver. If everyone started taking possession of gold and silver and started using it for commerce and stopped paying taxes, then we would be getting somewhere.
Sitting here discussing who should be the next president is EXACTLY what the system wants you do to. You're not gonna change anything with that approach. Also, have you ever really thought about the candidates they put up there? If anything were legitimate we would be electing a super healthy, super smart individual that was loved by everyone. Instead, they put up candidates that are designed to create division. Division is key. They want everyone blaming the other political party rather than coming to the realization that the whole system is a criminal scam.
Who's our next President?
Re: Who's our next President?
With that lineup, I could see a 20 year Republican future, but only if people remember what the Dems are capable of if they return to power.Sexymarinersfan wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 9:05 amDeSantis won't run against Trump. He'll wait for him to finish his term. And I love DeSantis, and Kari Lake!
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Speaking of Kari Lake. Take a listen to these two. They are some funny dudes.ddraig wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 9:38 pmWith that lineup, I could see a 20 year Republican future, but only if people remember what the Dems are capable of if they return to power.Sexymarinersfan wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 9:05 amDeSantis won't run against Trump. He'll wait for him to finish his term. And I love DeSantis, and Kari Lake!
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I see Trump getting the nomination which will ignite the democrats to lie cheat steal and kill to prevent him from winning. Look how fast Lake became relevant we have at least a yr to figure it out. If Lake transforms Arizona then she has my voteD-train wrote: ↑Wed Oct 26, 2022 12:28 pmIf it is Trump it it should be DeSantis. If DeSantis, should be Noem Lake or Tulsi....ddraig wrote: ↑Wed Oct 26, 2022 2:03 amThere are so many good Republicans to pick from right now. Even Tulsi Gabbard wouldn't be a bad choice. Whoever Trump picks, assuming he gets the nomination, will be the odds on favorite for 2028 and a possible eight year run. Even if DeSantis isn't nominated for anything by 2024,2028, or 2032, he'd still be young enough to run in 2036. I see nothing on the horizon yet for the Dims outside of AOC, and that would be laughable!
hope to God Trump can finally set his ego aside....I would love to see the libs squirm but would would be worried Michelle Obama runs if Trump does.
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People get all wrapped up in politics like they get all wrapped up in sports. But just like when your sports team wins, nothing really changes when your political candidate wins.
Trump was supposed to be this outsider that was going to drain the swamp, but he didn't do jack shit. I can't believe he still has supporters. People just root for him like they root for their favorite NFL quarterback. It's moronic.
People love to blame the liberals for all the problems, and sure the liberals are totally insane. But, in reality it's the existence of the "government" itself and their cohorts at the Federal Reserve that cause all the problems. You can put nothing but conservatives in the seats of power, and we'll still have debt-based currency, war, poverty, crime, etc, because the country is not ruled by the politicians, the politicians are ruled by the elites. The whole point of the ruse is to lure people along with hope that a savior politician will come along. But, politics never changes anything, it's a perpetual cycle that only serves the interest of the ruling class.
Real change only comes when disobedience hits critical mass. As long as people are relying on politicians for change, then change is guaranteed to never happen. Some conservatives might think that's the goal - keep things the same as much as possible, but they're failing to see how much better life gets when you remove government from the equation. Life becomes a lot more enjoyable without the the ills of debt-based currency, taxation, government indoctrination camps aka child prisons. Conservatives aren't comparing our system versus true freedom.
We don't want the liberal view of change - more government, more taxes, more bureaucracy, more "woke" bullshit. But, we truly also don't want a continuation of our Federal Reserve slavery system either. Those that preach limited government have the right concept... the closer to zero government the better. But, they often fail to see the context that our current government is massive with a 31 trillion dollar debt imposed upon its citizens. We might not be China, but we are still pretty much living in socialism. We are not living in the Land of the Free like the propaganda tells us.
Politics is a puppet show and neither of our two parties will ever accomplish anything other than pushing government to control every aspect of your life. The only practical difference between the two parties is the rhetoric. The libs blame everything on racism and so-called bigotry, and the conservatives blame everything on the libs. It's just a merry-go-round and I'm glad I exited the clown show. I used to get really wrapped up in it during my 30s. In my 40s I started waking up to the fact that it's not the people in government that are the problem, it's the existence of government and our obedience to it that is the problem. Nobody likes to blame themselves, but it is truly our fault. We love to blame the politicians, but we are the ones following their orders. We are the ones voting for our masters like obedient slaves.
Real solutions for problems will not be found in politics. Politics is a trap. I encourage everyone to stop participating.
Trump was supposed to be this outsider that was going to drain the swamp, but he didn't do jack shit. I can't believe he still has supporters. People just root for him like they root for their favorite NFL quarterback. It's moronic.
People love to blame the liberals for all the problems, and sure the liberals are totally insane. But, in reality it's the existence of the "government" itself and their cohorts at the Federal Reserve that cause all the problems. You can put nothing but conservatives in the seats of power, and we'll still have debt-based currency, war, poverty, crime, etc, because the country is not ruled by the politicians, the politicians are ruled by the elites. The whole point of the ruse is to lure people along with hope that a savior politician will come along. But, politics never changes anything, it's a perpetual cycle that only serves the interest of the ruling class.
Real change only comes when disobedience hits critical mass. As long as people are relying on politicians for change, then change is guaranteed to never happen. Some conservatives might think that's the goal - keep things the same as much as possible, but they're failing to see how much better life gets when you remove government from the equation. Life becomes a lot more enjoyable without the the ills of debt-based currency, taxation, government indoctrination camps aka child prisons. Conservatives aren't comparing our system versus true freedom.
We don't want the liberal view of change - more government, more taxes, more bureaucracy, more "woke" bullshit. But, we truly also don't want a continuation of our Federal Reserve slavery system either. Those that preach limited government have the right concept... the closer to zero government the better. But, they often fail to see the context that our current government is massive with a 31 trillion dollar debt imposed upon its citizens. We might not be China, but we are still pretty much living in socialism. We are not living in the Land of the Free like the propaganda tells us.
Politics is a puppet show and neither of our two parties will ever accomplish anything other than pushing government to control every aspect of your life. The only practical difference between the two parties is the rhetoric. The libs blame everything on racism and so-called bigotry, and the conservatives blame everything on the libs. It's just a merry-go-round and I'm glad I exited the clown show. I used to get really wrapped up in it during my 30s. In my 40s I started waking up to the fact that it's not the people in government that are the problem, it's the existence of government and our obedience to it that is the problem. Nobody likes to blame themselves, but it is truly our fault. We love to blame the politicians, but we are the ones following their orders. We are the ones voting for our masters like obedient slaves.
Real solutions for problems will not be found in politics. Politics is a trap. I encourage everyone to stop participating.
Re: Who's our next President?
Well stated.DanielVogelbach wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 3:09 pmIt doesn't matter who becomes president. What matters is people's belief in the myth of authority. Lawmakers have no power without order followers.
"Government" is organized crime. All taxation is theft. No different than a mafia extorting businesses and offering "protection". If you can't opt out, then it's extortion. You can't morally force someone to give you money without their consent. This is the basis of contract law. Statutory law has no legitimacy. Where does the authority come from? The Constitution? Lol. There were about 2 million people living in the USA when the Constitution was formed. Did they all sign off on it? Or, was it a bunch of wealthy people coming together to plan out how to screw everyone. Moreover, they don't actually follow that thing.
We are currently far less free than we were under colonial rule. Far more taxes. Far more laws and regulations. Moreover, during the period of serfdom, serfs gave up 25% of their crops. We are currently giving up far more than half our wealth when you add up sales tax, property tax, income tax, capital gains tax, and don't forget inflation. We work, and they take. Government creates zero wealth. All they do is steal from the economy. We don't need any "government". All we need is a truly free market. The idea that putting people in charge to control the free market will only serve to create corruption. But, nobody can be in charge without order followers. We can blame the 100 Senators in Washington, but they are powerless without everyone obeying their commands. You can blame the politicians for starting a war, but there's no war without soldiers enlisting.
The birth certificate makes you property of the state. Public school is an indoctrination camp. The entire system is criminal. It doesn't matter if you support the right or the left. As long as you support the legitimacy of the authority to make "laws" and tax you and create fiat currency, then nothing will ever change. If voting mattered, then they wouldn't let you do it. The real power is in the shadows.
Politicians are all puppets and the "countries" are a total stage show as well. All wars are planned out by the so-called elites. It's a one world system. It's a simple formula, you create the threat of war, so you can justify "government". It's all orchestrated, and as soon as people stop showing loyalty to their country and realize it's a one-world system the better. Stop worshipping the flags. Stop legitimizing criminal activity. The only difference between a government and organized crime is that people recognize the mafia as immoral, but due to conditioning they're unable to see that government is the exact same thing only more powerful because people believe in their mythological authority. They have no moral authority to rule over us. Voting doesn't change anything. Voting only serves to show you support the system and the seats of power. What changes things is when you stop following orders, stop paying taxes, stop signing up for government jobs, etc.
We don't need government, and we don't need a president. We just need out tax money back. The idea that people in government know how to spend your money better than you do is a complete joke. It's fine for people to pool their money for things, but it should all be done on a voluntary basis. Government is nothing but criminal force.
Look into voluntaryism. The movement is growing. The best result of an election would be if nobody showed up to vote. But, election after election people buy into this crap. They think that the results actually make a difference in the direction of government. And, they think their vote is their main tool to make changes. It's probably the least impactful thing you could ever do if you want change. If you really want change, try to convince all of your neighbors to grow food at home using heirloom seeds. Stop watching television programming and start learning practical skills. Take your kids out of government schools. Avoid paying taxes. Use the black / free market. Barter for goods. Use private crypto currencies. Use gold and silver. Do whatever you can to rely less on the system.
Government is latin for mind control. Everything about it sucks, and it causes 99% of the world's problems. We don't need government, we need freedom. We are not the land of the free, we are the land of debt-based slavery and the massive fiat currency scam. We are the land of being born into a 27 trillion dollar eternal debt and being forced to pay taxes on the interest. Government doesn't provide freedom. That's a contradiction. Freedom is the absence of government.
All government sucks, but by far the worst we deal with in USA is the Federal government. They tax the crap out of us and the only result we get is the military, but still also a massive national debt. There's not enough currency in circulation to pay off the debt, and the only way to create more currency is by adding more debt. All fiat currency is loaned into existence. It's all debt. The only real money is gold and silver. If everyone started taking possession of gold and silver and started using it for commerce and stopped paying taxes, then we would be getting somewhere.
Sitting here discussing who should be the next president is EXACTLY what the system wants you do to. You're not gonna change anything with that approach. Also, have you ever really thought about the candidates they put up there? If anything were legitimate we would be electing a super healthy, super smart individual that was loved by everyone. Instead, they put up candidates that are designed to create division. Division is key. They want everyone blaming the other political party rather than coming to the realization that the whole system is a criminal scam.
Re: Who's our next President?
I think when Trump announces he's running he needs to make clear how the hoaxes were all proven to be lies.
Has to make the fact that he was rendered impotent by impeachment proceedings and his own party turning their backs on him as a result of the lies that were made about him a main point of his platform. Impossible to get anything done under those conditions.
Then he can point to the new blood coming in to the Republican party that will support him, having gained control of the House and Senate going into 2024.
And has to make it a point that when he's elected again he will come out swinging and not let their threats sideline his agenda. We've seen the libs crying wolf for the last 6 years about Donald Trump. People see through the BS now.
He needs to fire every rotten, corrupt bureaucrat now that his hands aren't tied and the wolves in sheep's clothing have revealed themselves. Finish what he started on the golden escalator.
Has to make the fact that he was rendered impotent by impeachment proceedings and his own party turning their backs on him as a result of the lies that were made about him a main point of his platform. Impossible to get anything done under those conditions.
Then he can point to the new blood coming in to the Republican party that will support him, having gained control of the House and Senate going into 2024.
And has to make it a point that when he's elected again he will come out swinging and not let their threats sideline his agenda. We've seen the libs crying wolf for the last 6 years about Donald Trump. People see through the BS now.
He needs to fire every rotten, corrupt bureaucrat now that his hands aren't tied and the wolves in sheep's clothing have revealed themselves. Finish what he started on the golden escalator.