The Homeless Problem

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Re: The Homeless Problem

Post by Walla Walla Dawg II » Tue Mar 28, 2023 3:22 pm

But, you want real money like gold, silver, or bitcoin.
Bitcoin is real money?
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Bitcoin is only money if someone believes it's money. It's just the electronic equivalent of paper money.

Real money (wealth) is gold, silver, etc... Precious metals, jewels, (refined) lead, etc....

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Re: The Homeless Problem

Post by Cascade Kid » Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:07 pm

Walla Walla Dawg II wrote:
Tue Mar 28, 2023 3:22 pm
But, you want real money like gold, silver, or bitcoin.
Bitcoin is real money?
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Bitcoin is only money if someone believes it's money. It's just the electronic equivalent of paper money.

Real money (wealth) is gold, silver, etc... Precious metals, jewels, (refined) lead, etc....
It's much easier to print paper money though. Bitcoin has to be created through mining or "computational work" that requires energy and is a limited supply that is not endless. It has the potential to be far more secure than cash or PMs.

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Re: The Homeless Problem

Post by Walla Walla Dawg II » Wed Mar 29, 2023 8:05 pm

Cascade Kid wrote:
Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:07 pm
Walla Walla Dawg II wrote:
Tue Mar 28, 2023 3:22 pm
But, you want real money like gold, silver, or bitcoin.
Bitcoin is real money?
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Bitcoin is only money if someone believes it's money. It's just the electronic equivalent of paper money.

Real money (wealth) is gold, silver, etc... Precious metals, jewels, (refined) lead, etc....
It's much easier to print paper money though. Bitcoin has to be created through mining or "computational work" that requires energy and is a limited supply that is not endless. It has the potential to be far more secure than cash or PMs.
As long as the internet is active, I'd assume.

As soon as all the EMP go off, it will be nothing but a memory, yet gold and silver will be the standard.
It would also mean that everyone would need to be on bitcoin, and I don't see that if the world goes TU.

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Re: The Homeless Problem

Post by Cascade Kid » Thu Mar 30, 2023 6:35 am

Walla Walla Dawg II wrote:
Wed Mar 29, 2023 8:05 pm
Cascade Kid wrote:
Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:07 pm
Walla Walla Dawg II wrote:
Tue Mar 28, 2023 3:22 pm


Bitcoin is real money?
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Bitcoin is only money if someone believes it's money. It's just the electronic equivalent of paper money.

Real money (wealth) is gold, silver, etc... Precious metals, jewels, (refined) lead, etc....
It's much easier to print paper money though. Bitcoin has to be created through mining or "computational work" that requires energy and is a limited supply that is not endless. It has the potential to be far more secure than cash or PMs.
As long as the internet is active, I'd assume.

As soon as all the EMP go off, it will be nothing but a memory, yet gold and silver will be the standard.
It would also mean that everyone would need to be on bitcoin, and I don't see that if the world goes TU.
It'd have to be a big ass emp and take out just about every electronic device on the planet. And if that happens gold and silver don't mean squat because there are much bigger problems. Currency, if any, would be ammo.

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Re: The Homeless Problem

Post by DanielVogelbach » Sat Apr 01, 2023 9:08 pm

Walla Walla Dawg II wrote:
Tue Mar 28, 2023 3:22 pm
But, you want real money like gold, silver, or bitcoin.
Bitcoin is real money?
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Bitcoin is only money if someone believes it's money. It's just the electronic equivalent of paper money.

Real money (wealth) is gold, silver, etc... Precious metals, jewels, (refined) lead, etc....
Anything you can use as a medium of exchange can be considered money. The best money is portable, divisible, durable, fungible, and recognizable.

Bitcoin is different than paper money, because there's a limited supply. However, there is not any limit on the number of new tokens that people can create. The original BTC will never have more than 21 million coins, and the amount of new coins created slowly decreases over time. So, there are no secrets or Fed meetings regarding the monetary policy.

BTC is not a private crypto, though. There are other coins that are more private and people can't trace all of your transactions.

Bitcoin is arguably more limited than gold and silver, because we're still pulling more metal out of the ground. It's also more portable. If you need to carry a few million dollars across the border, you can do that with bitcoin by just memorizing some words in your head.

But, gold and silver have served as money for thousands of years. They are tried and true and don't require the internet to work. I think silver is one of the safest things you can invest in, because it's both a monetary and industrial metal. We also generally throw it away rather than scrap it out of electronics. The advantage to gold is obviously that it takes up very little space. But, overall, I think silver is a better play right now.

Bartering is great too. Everyone talks about ammo as a currency, but something like raspberry preserves or canned food can go a long way also. Even if we're not talking doomsday situations, you can still look for bartering opportunities.

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Re: The Homeless Problem

Post by Cascade Kid » Tue Apr 25, 2023 9:42 pm

Cascade Kid wrote:
Sun Feb 12, 2023 12:28 am
ddraig wrote:
Sat Feb 11, 2023 5:28 am
It's gonna be interesting to see what Seattle does with the homeless when the World Cup comes to town in a few years.
You're seeing it right now in SODO ahead of the All-star game this summer. The work starts now and here's the plan.

1. Start a media buzz around fires at homeless encampments in Sodo and Mercer ramp

2. Start stating the need for billions of dollars to fix problem.

3. Remove camps in SODO and other tourist exposed areas while sweeping away the empathetic message used to create the problem to begin with under the rug

4. Let the problem sprawl further into the suburban communities and move the homeless empathetic message to this community.

5. Lobby for billions to fix the problem that won't actually fix the problem.

6. All-star game is played and then "homeless" move back

7. Problem remains ignored while politicians ask for billions

8. Voters still feel problem in their communities thanks tp politician's creation of problem.

9. World Cup is coming, push homeless legislation, clear camps

10. World Cup ends and legislation approved "homeless" funding goes to proframs that continue to fertilize the problem

No one should trust the government and politicans to fix a problem, especially a problem they've created. It's just a money opportunity for them. They don't care about these people or their problems, and their empathy is an obvious lie. They only care about controlling the public and it's money, and this shines through every council and legislative session.
I cast my big fat NO! last week. Hope you all are letting your voice be heard on Prop 1. It's just a BS money burn. If King county and the State cared they would've never lost Federal funding for our state mental hospitals. This is just more control over you and your money while they let our laws get ignored and criminals go free. Mental health treatment is a winless war, but they know there is good money in it.

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Re: The Homeless Problem

Post by douche » Tue Apr 25, 2023 11:27 pm

Cascade Kid wrote:
Sun Feb 12, 2023 12:28 am
No one should trust the government and politicans to fix a problem, especially a problem they've created. It's just a money opportunity for them. They don't care about these people or their problems, and their empathy is an obvious lie. They only care about controlling the public and it's money, and this shines through every council and legislative session.
100%. This is why the concept of homelessness will ALWAYS exist. It's a permanent and fail-safe way to lobby for money.

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Re: The Homeless Problem

Post by Cascade Kid » Wed Apr 26, 2023 4:58 pm

Of course, it's a great money maker. The politicans run under the same presumptions that the American Diabetes Association does when it comes to diabetes for the very same reasons. For example, the ADA will tell you the importance of exercise, medication, and diet in very inaccurate concepts. We see this false and non-effective information in the form of "take your meds", "go for a walk", "eat a balanced diet". Meanwhile the American Diabetes Association's top funders are the food and pharmaceutical industries. So what you are actually hearing is take meds and eat processed carbohydrates (aka sugar). If they actually told people how to fix the problem the big dollars would stop coming in from the food industry and big pharma. Hell, diabetes is around a $800B dollar per year business and literally kills far more people than we are lead to believe once you take into consideration the effects of heart disease, cancer, liver disease, and several other diseases diabetes causes.

But in truth diabetes can be best summed up as Carbohydrate Toxcity Syndrome. The 'Cause' is carbohydrate (sugar) consumption, period. According to studys (btw- not acknowledged by ADA) by Cambridge, along with many other studies, the only way to put Type 2 into remission is to fix the cause. The cause being carbohydrate intake. But ADA, your doctor, your nutritionist, your pharmacist, and the general knowledge out there will tell you too take meds, exercise, and eat a balanced diet because whole grains are nutritious. The meds do not fix diabetes only manages high sugar levels, all of the underline risk factors about heart disease, stroke, and diabete retinopathy stays the same as long as carbohydrates are consumed as recommended by ADA and others. If you have type 2, consider going very low-carb on a keto diet, and count total carbs not net carbs, and stay away from alcohol and alcohol sugars. Exercise is nice but it is does not fix the cause, but it will make your body healthier as well as your mind.

Now as for the "homeless problem"...
There was a time when we saw homelessness as single mothers losing their jobs and homes. Or people that get sick and can't work. And in that time, we also saw 'homeless drunks' that made a choice of staying drunk and not retaining employment to stay off of the streets. Things seemed pretty clear and gave a reasonable understanding on how to handle both. The single mother or person that got sick or had a misfortune that put them out of work had meaningful services to reverse the cause of the effect. And the homeless drunk oftentimes was taken into the drunk tank and offered treatment since it was unlawful to be drunk in public.

Nowdays the "homeless problem" is mostly a drug problem that leads to crime. These drug users can not handle a stable daily job similar to the drunk. But the drug users are a bit more ambitious than the drunk is and will break into buildings, cars, homes, and steal from public and private property. And they will leave their filth of needles and trash scattered in their wake. Drug use is the cause. The crimes and trash are the unlawful effect. The solution for Seattle, King County, and WA state? House them and give them free shit.

If you have a flat tire because a nail is in it, one could fill it will air and drive a few miles, but it will go flat again. Cause: nail in tire. Effect: flat tire. Fix? Put air in the tire??? Nope, it is to patch or replace the tire.

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Re: The Homeless Problem

Post by douche » Wed Apr 26, 2023 6:21 pm

Cascade Kid wrote:
Wed Apr 26, 2023 4:58 pm
The solution for Seattle, King County, and WA state? House them and give them free shit.
Yep. It's one big merry-go-round. Homelessness, racism, obesity... everything that is wrong with the country is what allows corporations and politicians to profit. While the average taxpayer goes broke.

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Re: The Homeless Problem

Post by Walla Walla Dawg II » Wed Apr 26, 2023 8:04 pm

douche wrote:
Wed Apr 26, 2023 6:21 pm
Cascade Kid wrote:
Wed Apr 26, 2023 4:58 pm
The solution for Seattle, King County, and WA state? House them and give them free shit.
Yep. It's one big merry-go-round. Homelessness, racism, obesity... everything that is wrong with the country is what allows corporations and politicians to profit. While the average taxpayer goes broke.
Somewhere around boozy-old FDR, some people became career politicians and we took a sharp turn downhill. There is nothing like voting yourself raises whenever you believe you are doing a great job.

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