Technology vs Jobs

[Walla Walla Dawg II]

Time to shed the "Degree is everything" mantra. Plumbers, welders, electricians, wood workers can all make triple digit salaries in the time it takes the average college student to graduate. Typically, those service jobs do not have any debt, too. So tell me again why I need a degree in History, English, Comparative Religions, or Basket Weaving. Read up on a guy by the name of Mike Rowe of "Dirty Jobs" fame.

Not entirely true. Electricians have a very rigorous training, and sometimes years of schooling. It all depends on how up the food chain they want to go. And this is set by the unions....whether it's a union shop or not.

I can't speak for plumbers, but I know welding also needs some schooling. I believe it's a 2-year degree at the standard community college, but that's a far cry away from $200,000 worth of student debt.

But there will NEVER be money in gender studies....unless you are the professor.

I'm curious: How much do you think a professor of gender studies makes? I don't mean a "superstar" with books and national attention. I mean the run of the mill academic at the run of the mill college. I doubt it's 6 figures.

Too much for what they are fucking teaching.
And...
There are no "superstar" professors in gender studies.
and....
I bet it's well into the 6 digit figure for a pac12 school.

[Walla Walla Dawg II]

Not entirely true. Electricians have a very rigorous training, and sometimes years of schooling. It all depends on how up the food chain they want to go. And this is set by the unions....whether it's a union shop or not.

I can't speak for plumbers, but I know welding also needs some schooling. I believe it's a 2-year degree at the standard community college, but that's a far cry away from $200,000 worth of student debt.

But there will NEVER be money in gender studies....unless you are the professor.

My niece is brilliant and just wasted her 1st quarter of College at Cal with this nonsense:

Also has a gender studies class, a science class on climate change (your favorite topic, I know) and a one credit class on Fridays on dealing with stress.

Cal (Berkeley) isn't a trade school. Frosh don't need to take classes in their future professions. They need to learn to think and communicate. If she is brilliant, I'm confident she will be fine.

I'm glad you said Freshmen because I want my future doctor, pilots, etc... to take A LOT of classes for the profession they choose.

[ddraig]

Time to shed the "Degree is everything" mantra. Plumbers, welders, electricians, wood workers can all make triple digit salaries in the time it takes the average college student to graduate. Typically, those service jobs do not have any debt, too. So tell me again why I need a degree in History, English, Comparative Religions, or Basket Weaving. Read up on a guy by the name of Mike Rowe of "Dirty Jobs" fame.

Not entirely true. Electricians have a very rigorous training, and sometimes years of schooling. It all depends on how up the food chain they want to go. And this is set by the unions....whether it's a union shop or not.

I can't speak for plumbers, but I know welding also needs some schooling. I believe it's a 2-year degree at the standard community college, but that's a far cry away from $200,000 worth of student debt.

But there will NEVER be money in gender studies....unless you are the professor.

I didn't say they don't have to acquire more skills, but it is infinitely easier to make more money without crippling debt as a tradesman than through four or five years of college. In a little over three years, with the right classes, an underwater welder can easily take home a six figure salary working only part time. You can't just stagnate on a skill, you do have to keep up with latest trends.

[DanielVogelbach]

Kind of my point. If Truck driving Jobs go away people will just need to get trained to do more valuable and fulfilling jobs.

Exactly. Tucker is way off the mark with his socialist comments here. Free market is always the best option. "Regulation" is just a recipe for tyranny.

Also, the university system is a total scam. One of the key parts of the scam is the football. Another is that the institutions don't pay taxes.

[gil]

Not entirely true. Electricians have a very rigorous training, and sometimes years of schooling. It all depends on how up the food chain they want to go. And this is set by the unions....whether it's a union shop or not.

I can't speak for plumbers, but I know welding also needs some schooling. I believe it's a 2-year degree at the standard community college, but that's a far cry away from $200,000 worth of student debt.

But there will NEVER be money in gender studies....unless you are the professor.

I'm curious: How much do you think a professor of gender studies makes? I don't mean a "superstar" with books and national attention. I mean the run of the mill academic at the run of the mill college. I doubt it's 6 figures.

Too much for what they are fucking teaching.
And...
There are no "superstar" professors in gender studies.
and....
I bet it's well into the 6 digit figure for a pac12 school.

It looks like starting salary for an assistant professor (i.e., the entry level PhD) in arts and sciences at UW (I think this is where gender studies would be) is $63K https://admin.artsci.washington.edu/fin ... on#minimum

[gil]

I'm curious: How much do you think a professor of gender studies makes? I don't mean a "superstar" with books and national attention. I mean the run of the mill academic at the run of the mill college. I doubt it's 6 figures.

Why do you think Tuition has sky rocketed. It isn't because the Janitorial fees have to mop the classrooms have gone up.

Actually, they probably have. ...

I think (and I wish I had data to back this up), it's because of the explosion of administrative positions and programs that are not directly involved in being in the classroom. Things that weren't there a generation ago, such as support for veterans, "student life," and diversity training.

I was trying to cobble together some numbers. Fewer than 1/5 of UW employees are actually "instructional employees"
2627 “instructional employees” https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges ... omposition
15,000 employees https://www.zippia.com/university-of-wa ... ographics/

[Walla Walla Dawg II]

I'm curious: How much do you think a professor of gender studies makes? I don't mean a "superstar" with books and national attention. I mean the run of the mill academic at the run of the mill college. I doubt it's 6 figures.

Too much for what they are fucking teaching.
And...
There are no "superstar" professors in gender studies.
and....
I bet it's well into the 6 digit figure for a pac12 school.

It looks like starting salary for an assistant professor (i.e., the entry level PhD) in arts and sciences at UW (I think this is where gender studies would be) is $63K https://admin.artsci.washington.edu/fin ... on#minimum

$63K is pretty good for an ENTRY [or Teachers Assistant] gig. It's safe to assume that if the TA is getting $63K, the professor is well over twice that.

[gil]

Too much for what they are fucking teaching.
And...
There are no "superstar" professors in gender studies.
and....
I bet it's well into the 6 digit figure for a pac12 school.

It looks like starting salary for an assistant professor (i.e., the entry level PhD) in arts and sciences at UW (I think this is where gender studies would be) is $63K https://admin.artsci.washington.edu/fin ... on#minimum

$63K is pretty good for an ENTRY [or Teachers Assistant] gig. It's safe to assume that if the TA is getting $63K, the professor is well over twice that.

That's not my understanding. An Assistant professor (first rung on the tenure ladder) is usually someone with a PhD. It's not a teaching assistant (i.e., student).

[Walla Walla Dawg II]

This is interesting:
https://thebestschools.org/magazine/professors-ranks/

[D-train]

Not entirely true. Electricians have a very rigorous training, and sometimes years of schooling. It all depends on how up the food chain they want to go. And this is set by the unions....whether it's a union shop or not.

I can't speak for plumbers, but I know welding also needs some schooling. I believe it's a 2-year degree at the standard community college, but that's a far cry away from $200,000 worth of student debt.

But there will NEVER be money in gender studies....unless you are the professor.

My niece is brilliant and just wasted her 1st quarter of College at Cal with this nonsense:

Also has a gender studies class, a science class on climate change (your favorite topic, I know) and a one credit class on Fridays on dealing with stress.

Cal (Berkeley) isn't a trade school. Frosh don't need to take classes in their future professions. They need to learn to think and communicate. If she is brilliant, I'm confident she will be fine.

I would prefer she doesn't learn to think and communicate about nonsense while they attempt create more far left libs.