Trump wants a bloodbath!

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Re: Trump wants a bloodbath!

Post by Mel Bradford » Wed Apr 10, 2024 2:21 am

A late term abortion involves a viable child. Millions of babies have been born 'pre-mature. Generally around 30 to 35 weeks. The average birth in weeks is 40.
The last thing an abortion practitioner wants is a 'live-abortion'. Measures are taken to kill the fetus before extraction in late term. In the event of a live birth, and its rare, horrible measures have been taken. Suffocation ,dissection, injection, and abandonment. Hence 'live birth legislation'.

In Washington State the viability of the baby is literally in the hands of its executioner.

From WA statute: "Abortions are legal up to the point of fetal viability (as determined by a provider) or to protect the life or health of the pregnant individual."

Politically speaking, and although it may seem hyperbolic, Trump is right about the pro-choice motivation. Sexual freedom is to have no inherent limits or responsibilities.
Pro-aborts, the screw-loose emotional Karens , the cold intellectuals, and the apparatchiks of the billion dollar industry are so adamant about 'the right' they have no qualms about waxing a 40 weeker. And believe me at 40 weeks a light switch doesn't turn on for them. They don't all of a sudden become 'pro-lifers'. Its a darkness that only spirals in one direction....down.

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Re: Trump wants a bloodbath!

Post by D-train » Wed Apr 10, 2024 10:57 am

Seattle or Bust wrote:
Tue Apr 09, 2024 5:54 pm
So in his message about abortion the other day... Trump stated that Democrats want abortion "after 9 months" meaning that they want to kill babies after a mother has given birth.

"They support abortion up to and even beyond the ninth month," Trump said in a video posted on Truth Social. "The concept of having an abortion in the later months, and even execution after birth. That's exactly what it is — the baby is born, and the baby is executed after birth."

I'm curious how this can be taken out of context and where the evidence is for murdering born babies?
https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/31/politics ... index.html
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Re: Trump wants a bloodbath!

Post by Seattle or Bust » Thu Apr 11, 2024 6:01 am

D-train wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2024 10:57 am
Seattle or Bust wrote:
Tue Apr 09, 2024 5:54 pm
So in his message about abortion the other day... Trump stated that Democrats want abortion "after 9 months" meaning that they want to kill babies after a mother has given birth.

"They support abortion up to and even beyond the ninth month," Trump said in a video posted on Truth Social. "The concept of having an abortion in the later months, and even execution after birth. That's exactly what it is — the baby is born, and the baby is executed after birth."

I'm curious how this can be taken out of context and where the evidence is for murdering born babies?
https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/31/politics ... index.html
There is a huge distinction between late-term abortion and killing babies after they are born or "executing" them.

Per your artical: “[Third trimester abortions are] done in cases where there may be severe deformities. There may be a fetus that’s nonviable.

The bill – which among other things would end a state rule that requires at least three physicians confirm “that a third trimester abortion is necessary to prevent the woman’s death or impairment of her mental or physical health” and ends “the need to find that any such impairment to the woman’s health would be substantial and irremediable."

Nobody (in the grand scheme of things) wants to have a third trimester abortion... they happen due to potential severe health complications either to the baby or mother.

Framing that as "democrats want to kill babies" is ridiculous. A former president being so bold as to say that executions are happening after birth or that Democrats want that is dangerous and insane.

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Re: Trump wants a bloodbath!

Post by Seattle or Bust » Thu Apr 11, 2024 6:04 am

Mel Bradford wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2024 2:21 am
A late term abortion involves a viable child. Millions of babies have been born 'pre-mature. Generally around 30 to 35 weeks. The average birth in weeks is 40.
The last thing an abortion practitioner wants is a 'live-abortion'. Measures are taken to kill the fetus before extraction in late term. In the event of a live birth, and its rare, horrible measures have been taken. Suffocation ,dissection, injection, and abandonment. Hence 'live birth legislation'.

In Washington State the viability of the baby is literally in the hands of its executioner.

From WA statute: "Abortions are legal up to the point of fetal viability (as determined by a provider) or to protect the life or health of the pregnant individual."

Politically speaking, and although it may seem hyperbolic, Trump is right about the pro-choice motivation. Sexual freedom is to have no inherent limits or responsibilities.
Pro-aborts, the screw-loose emotional Karens , the cold intellectuals, and the apparatchiks of the billion dollar industry are so adamant about 'the right' they have no qualms about waxing a 40 weeker. And believe me at 40 weeks a light switch doesn't turn on for them. They don't all of a sudden become 'pro-lifers'. Its a darkness that only spirals in one direction....down.
You think it's a good thing to use hyperbolic language on such a sensitive topic?

To anyone sane listening, it sounds like insane fear mongering.

Likening ending an infant's life due to irreparable health problems to avoid immense suffering to "executing born babies" is so fkn gross. And he didn't even clarify... he's trying to make it seem like Democrats just want to kill perfectly healthy babies... it's beyond insane.

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Re: Trump wants a bloodbath!

Post by gil » Thu Apr 11, 2024 5:18 pm

It seems to me that the intent is to make people outraged. Killing perfectly healthy newly-born infants? Put me down as a "no" on that, Alex. :shock:

But the point isn't to have any rational discussion; the point isn't to have any intelligent presentation of issues. It's just to demonize your opponent by attributing positions to the opposition that no one actually supports (ok, I'll accept that someone can find an idiot on X or TikTok that has said something you can point to). Hence, outrage. These horrible leftist Democrats want this. These horrible MAGA Republicans want that.

Wouldn't it be great if people dropped the straw man arguments and insults and actually engaged with people they disagree with?

{pollyanna out}

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Re: Trump wants a bloodbath!

Post by D-train » Sat Apr 13, 2024 11:01 pm

Seattle or Bust wrote:
Thu Apr 11, 2024 6:01 am
D-train wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2024 10:57 am
Seattle or Bust wrote:
Tue Apr 09, 2024 5:54 pm
So in his message about abortion the other day... Trump stated that Democrats want abortion "after 9 months" meaning that they want to kill babies after a mother has given birth.

"They support abortion up to and even beyond the ninth month," Trump said in a video posted on Truth Social. "The concept of having an abortion in the later months, and even execution after birth. That's exactly what it is — the baby is born, and the baby is executed after birth."

I'm curious how this can be taken out of context and where the evidence is for murdering born babies?
https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/31/politics ... index.html
There is a huge distinction between late-term abortion and killing babies after they are born or "executing" them.

Per your artical: “[Third trimester abortions are] done in cases where there may be severe deformities. There may be a fetus that’s nonviable.

The bill – which among other things would end a state rule that requires at least three physicians confirm “that a third trimester abortion is necessary to prevent the woman’s death or impairment of her mental or physical health” and ends “the need to find that any such impairment to the woman’s health would be substantial and irremediable."

Nobody (in the grand scheme of things) wants to have a third trimester abortion... they happen due to potential severe health complications either to the baby or mother.

Framing that as "democrats want to kill babies" is ridiculous. A former president being so bold as to say that executions are happening after birth or that Democrats want that is dangerous and insane.
You all good with this fucking nonsense pal? Culture Wars right. No big deal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuACnZ83YKk
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Re: Trump wants a bloodbath!

Post by Seattle or Bust » Wed Apr 17, 2024 2:23 am

D-train wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2024 11:01 pm
Seattle or Bust wrote:
Thu Apr 11, 2024 6:01 am
There is a huge distinction between late-term abortion and killing babies after they are born or "executing" them.

Per your artical: “[Third trimester abortions are] done in cases where there may be severe deformities. There may be a fetus that’s nonviable.

The bill – which among other things would end a state rule that requires at least three physicians confirm “that a third trimester abortion is necessary to prevent the woman’s death or impairment of her mental or physical health” and ends “the need to find that any such impairment to the woman’s health would be substantial and irremediable."

Nobody (in the grand scheme of things) wants to have a third trimester abortion... they happen due to potential severe health complications either to the baby or mother.

Framing that as "democrats want to kill babies" is ridiculous. A former president being so bold as to say that executions are happening after birth or that Democrats want that is dangerous and insane.
You all good with this fucking nonsense pal? Culture Wars right. No big deal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuACnZ83YKk
I don't think trans women should be able to compete in female sports.

I also think it's a topic of conversation that is blown way out proportion and given way more attention than it's due, like Gil is saying. I think there are far more pressing issues than the happenings of female swimming competitions.

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Re: Trump wants a bloodbath!

Post by Mel Bradford » Sun May 05, 2024 1:43 am

Trans its and their comings and goings in sports, schools, employment, etc are the tip of the spear for the Human Right Campaign. The goal is more legal blackmail of American institutions. Blue state legislatures are currently looking at law that will ensconce fake women as a protected class and eliminate religious institutional exemptions. The way its worked and will work is a law is passed. Then a test case magically appears and some business or church or community institution is sued. In the process money and power flex the proverbial muscle and everyone is on notice. A state attorney general having virtually unlimited funds is a standing threat to any small entity. If its a civil proceeding the aclu and like minded, well funded commies will carry the ball.

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Re: Trump wants a bloodbath!

Post by Walla Walla Dawg II » Sun May 05, 2024 4:10 pm

Seattle or Bust wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2024 2:23 am
D-train wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2024 11:01 pm
Seattle or Bust wrote:
Thu Apr 11, 2024 6:01 am


There is a huge distinction between late-term abortion and killing babies after they are born or "executing" them.

Per your artical: “[Third trimester abortions are] done in cases where there may be severe deformities. There may be a fetus that’s nonviable.

The bill – which among other things would end a state rule that requires at least three physicians confirm “that a third trimester abortion is necessary to prevent the woman’s death or impairment of her mental or physical health” and ends “the need to find that any such impairment to the woman’s health would be substantial and irremediable."

Nobody (in the grand scheme of things) wants to have a third trimester abortion... they happen due to potential severe health complications either to the baby or mother.

Framing that as "democrats want to kill babies" is ridiculous. A former president being so bold as to say that executions are happening after birth or that Democrats want that is dangerous and insane.
You all good with this fucking nonsense pal? Culture Wars right. No big deal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuACnZ83YKk
I don't think trans women should be able to compete in female sports.

I also think it's a topic of conversation that is blown way out proportion and given way more attention than it's due, like Gil is saying. I think there are far more pressing issues than the happenings of female swimming competitions.
So who draws the line in the sand and decides what is and isn't important? You.
Will that line in the sand be consistent, or move as the wind blows (and by wind, I mean people threatening you to meet their agenda).

Every week there is another story out there about a "biological male" competing in women's sports, and destroying the women in the process. For fucks sake, It has to end.

It has nothing to do with female swimming, it has to do with all female sports.

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Re: Trump wants a bloodbath!

Post by bpj » Sun May 05, 2024 9:37 pm

Yeah. I wonder where it all comes from.
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