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Re: SS on JK

Post by D-train » Mon Jun 07, 2021 9:40 pm

Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
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So we have to wait until September to see the great Chris Davis' record broken?
Wow, imagine how embarrassing it will be walking into the Rainiers clubhouse. Good God.
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Re: SS on JK

Post by SpokaneCoug » Mon Jun 07, 2021 9:50 pm

D-train wrote:
Mon Jun 07, 2021 9:40 pm
Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Mon Jun 07, 2021 8:30 pm
So we have to wait until September to see the great Chris Davis' record broken?
Wow, imagine how embarrassing it will be walking into the Rainiers clubhouse. Good God.
I haven't been able to watch many M's games this year. What's the book on JK? Where does he struggle? Are they busting him inside? Pitching him high? Does he just swing at balls in the dirt like Zunino?

I really hope he figures it out.

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Re: SS on JK

Post by D-train » Mon Jun 07, 2021 10:01 pm

WoodinvilleCoug wrote:
Mon Jun 07, 2021 9:50 pm
D-train wrote:
Mon Jun 07, 2021 9:40 pm
Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Mon Jun 07, 2021 8:30 pm
So we have to wait until September to see the great Chris Davis' record broken?
Wow, imagine how embarrassing it will be walking into the Rainiers clubhouse. Good God.
I haven't been able to watch many M's games this year. What's the book on JK? Where does he struggle? Are they busting him inside? Pitching him high? Does he just swing at balls in the dirt like Zunino?

I really hope he figures it out.
Here is Divish's take"
After going hitless in his much-anticipated MLB debut on May 13 at T-Mobile Park, Kelenic, who was rated as the Mariners top prospect by MLB.com and No. 4 prospect in all of baseball, blasted a solo home run for his first MLB hit in the following game, earning a curtain call from Mariners fans. He also added two doubles. It was everything Mariners fans had been waiting and clamoring for from the precocious 21-year-old.

But the production waned as pitchers started to attack him on the hands with fastballs and teams loaded up left-handed pitchers to face him.

Over the next 21 games, he posted a .067/.167/.107 slash line that included just five hits in 84 plate appearances, one homer, three RBIs, eight walks and 24 strikeouts.

Initially, the Mariners felt confident that the number of hard hit balls and his unusually low batting average on balls in play — around .120 — indicated that Kelenic was a victim of bad luck, and that it would change.

But the swings and misses and strikeouts began to climb with each hitless plate appearance. And his anger and explosive reactions after those at-bats also became an indicator of a young player who was struggling to manage failure.
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Re: SS on JK

Post by D-train » Mon Jun 07, 2021 10:01 pm

From a curtain call to CURTAINS............
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Re: SS on JK

Post by acctingman » Mon Jun 07, 2021 10:11 pm

Dustin Ackley 2.0

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Re: SS on JK

Post by Captain 97 » Mon Jun 07, 2021 10:26 pm

D-train wrote:
Mon Jun 07, 2021 10:01 pm
WoodinvilleCoug wrote:
Mon Jun 07, 2021 9:50 pm
D-train wrote:
Mon Jun 07, 2021 9:40 pm


Wow, imagine how embarrassing it will be walking into the Rainiers clubhouse. Good God.
I haven't been able to watch many M's games this year. What's the book on JK? Where does he struggle? Are they busting him inside? Pitching him high? Does he just swing at balls in the dirt like Zunino?

I really hope he figures it out.
Here is Divish's take"
After going hitless in his much-anticipated MLB debut on May 13 at T-Mobile Park, Kelenic, who was rated as the Mariners top prospect by MLB.com and No. 4 prospect in all of baseball, blasted a solo home run for his first MLB hit in the following game, earning a curtain call from Mariners fans. He also added two doubles. It was everything Mariners fans had been waiting and clamoring for from the precocious 21-year-old.

But the production waned as pitchers started to attack him on the hands with fastballs and teams loaded up left-handed pitchers to face him.

Over the next 21 games, he posted a .067/.167/.107 slash line that included just five hits in 84 plate appearances, one homer, three RBIs, eight walks and 24 strikeouts.

Initially, the Mariners felt confident that the number of hard hit balls and his unusually low batting average on balls in play — around .120 — indicated that Kelenic was a victim of bad luck, and that it would change.

But the swings and misses and strikeouts began to climb with each hitless plate appearance. And his anger and explosive reactions after those at-bats also became an indicator of a young player who was struggling to manage failure.
His Charts tell a different story.
He has seen 178 pitches in the strike zone. 65 on the outer third, 63 down the middle and 50 on the inner third. He has had more sucess on balls inside which leads me to believe he is trying to pull everything. Either way he just simply can't hit anything. Even when they give him cookies right down the middle.
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Re: SS on JK

Post by D-train » Mon Jun 07, 2021 10:44 pm

acctingman wrote:
Mon Jun 07, 2021 10:11 pm
Dustin Ackley 2.0
Ackley was at .289/.853 after the same number of games so not ExAckley.
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Re: SS on JK

Post by Michael K. » Mon Jun 07, 2021 10:51 pm

Isn't the hitting chart set up the other way, since he is a lefty? So he is 3 for 65 on inside pitches and 4 for 50 outside?

The more alarming is that on pitches over the middle he is 0 for 63!

EDIT: Never mind, it flat says Catcher's Perspective. So, yes, he actually has slightly better luck inside.

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Re: SS on JK

Post by acctingman » Mon Jun 07, 2021 11:00 pm

D-train wrote:
Mon Jun 07, 2021 10:44 pm
acctingman wrote:
Mon Jun 07, 2021 10:11 pm
Dustin Ackley 2.0
Ackley was at .289/.853 after the same number of games so not ExAckley.
Oh lord....JK is horrid. I just hope this doesn't mess with his mind like it did Ack.

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Re: SS on JK

Post by D-train » Mon Jun 07, 2021 11:28 pm

Captain 97 wrote:
Mon Jun 07, 2021 10:26 pm
D-train wrote:
Mon Jun 07, 2021 10:01 pm
WoodinvilleCoug wrote:
Mon Jun 07, 2021 9:50 pm


I haven't been able to watch many M's games this year. What's the book on JK? Where does he struggle? Are they busting him inside? Pitching him high? Does he just swing at balls in the dirt like Zunino?

I really hope he figures it out.
Here is Divish's take"
After going hitless in his much-anticipated MLB debut on May 13 at T-Mobile Park, Kelenic, who was rated as the Mariners top prospect by MLB.com and No. 4 prospect in all of baseball, blasted a solo home run for his first MLB hit in the following game, earning a curtain call from Mariners fans. He also added two doubles. It was everything Mariners fans had been waiting and clamoring for from the precocious 21-year-old.

But the production waned as pitchers started to attack him on the hands with fastballs and teams loaded up left-handed pitchers to face him.

Over the next 21 games, he posted a .067/.167/.107 slash line that included just five hits in 84 plate appearances, one homer, three RBIs, eight walks and 24 strikeouts.

Initially, the Mariners felt confident that the number of hard hit balls and his unusually low batting average on balls in play — around .120 — indicated that Kelenic was a victim of bad luck, and that it would change.

But the swings and misses and strikeouts began to climb with each hitless plate appearance. And his anger and explosive reactions after those at-bats also became an indicator of a young player who was struggling to manage failure.
His Charts tell a different story.
He has seen 178 pitches in the strike zone. 65 on the outer third, 63 down the middle and 50 on the inner third. He has had more sucess on balls inside which leads me to believe he is trying to pull everything. Either way he just simply can't hit anything. Even when they give him cookies right down the middle.
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0-25 on middle middle. Do they have league average BA on middle middle. Guessing it is a bit higher than .000.
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