Being racist under the guise of Anti Racism

[HawkBowler 2.0]

Adjusted for inflation, $6.25 in 1990 is equal to $12.91 in 2021.
Annual inflation over this period was 2.37%.

I don't buy that. You could buy a lot more with a lesser paying job in 1990. That's just a fact. What's the difference in housing costs? College tuition?

We had a society that was mostly single parent income for the longest time. That was no good for the cabal, so they began efforts to get women into the workforce. WWII was the beginning boost for that. Also, too, of course, they made it so just about every household has two working parents... if there are two parents.

Hell, these days people are picking up a third wheel... no kidding -- the throuple. Imagine pitching that to your wife... "I'm sorry, honey, your just not bringing in enough bacon. We need to invite Becky into our relationship." LOL

[ddraig]

When in the hell did minimum wage become a living wage?

It became fashionable because of idiots believing there are more than 12 people out there trying to survive on minimum wage who actually need a good, well paying job. Yes, minimum wage should be based upon individuals starting out in the work force, trying to establish a work history. At $15.00 per hour, which is where we are headed, it works out to $31,200.

Yes, I understand that you have to be working 40 hours a week to qualify for that $31,200 a year. But can you imagine a boxboy/girl down at the local grocery store making that? When I began working in 1966, I was making $2.50 an hour. I worked under 20 hours a week and I was damn happy with the $2,600 a year. It paid for movies with my girlfriend, gas, and insurance. Full time would have made me $5,200. And that wage was $1.10 higher than minimum wage. But no one, NO ONE, thought of those jobs as a living wage! We had brains back then.

[HawkBowler 2.0]

NO ONE, thought of those jobs as a living wage! We had brains back then.

Good points ddraig. I wonder if the problem is the concept of a living wage. Put in reverse, why do we need a wage in order to live?

Everyone pays to live in their own home. Doesn't matter whether you rent or own. Doesn't matter whether you paid off the mortgage, the property taxes never stop. The government and the banks continuously make money on every house and building regardless of who owns it. People don't have any Real property that belongs to them, and that fact is proven once a person dies. The bank just finds a new occupant to continue earning money from. This is a crooked system, yet we're born in it. We accept it. What choice do we have?

The problem is that we were born into an oppressive system, where the diligent person mercilessly exploits the non-diligent person. In order to get ahead in our system, a person typically needs to become an oppressor of some sort. Landlord. Employer. Stock holder. Sales manager. NFL commissioner. In other words, they move from just making money from their own labor to making money off the labor of other people.

I see this changing in the near future, though, as wealth will not mean the same thing. With the NESARA rights and other advancements, people will have financial rights that they've never had before. Also too, there will be far less need for consumerism. Rather than Walmart taking over everywhere, I think the mass retail stores like this will go away. People wont need or even want most of the stuff. The biggest change will be freedom from having to worry about one's own sustainability. Not when it comes to feeding oneself or curing themselves of a disease. We are truly entering a new era that can't be imagined yet, but we have details to know that it should be mind blowing.

[Grandma Lynn]

HA! my first office job I made 50c
an hour! Of course everything else
was related to it. Oh the good old
days!

[ddraig]

I have to wonder about anyone over the age of 25 who is "forced" to work a minimum wage job. If we scale back to before the $15/hour "minimum wage," who is working these jobs? High School and College age kids looking for some spending money or money to supplement what they already have. Receptionists were making more than "minimum wage." How bad of an employee do you have to be to NOT make it as a receptionist or mail clerk in some office. Kids can learn computer skills in High School and get a job at more than "minimum wage." And even those box boys/girls I mentioned earlier can easily work their way up through the store hierarchy in a year or to to become leads and supervisors. "Minimum wage" jobs are for those just starting out in the workplace and need experience. They were never designed to be permanent positions nor a "living wage."

You want to know what racism is? Racism is bringing in people illegally from other countries to take jobs away, at a lower wage, from our own citizens. The largest single demographic of those unemployed is young, African-American, males, aged 18 to 30. The jobs are out there but employers would rather pay less than minimum wage to individuals who also don't require benefits like insurance or require government taxes. Under the guise of "humanitarianism", we bring in people and keep them permanently as an underclass while we spend exorbitant amounts of money in social services for these illegals AND those who are our own citizens and can't get a job. Why don't our politicians point that out? Blatant racism!

[IStillLoveTheMs]

I have to wonder about anyone over the age of 25 who is "forced" to work a minimum wage job. If we scale back to before the $15/hour "minimum wage," who is working these jobs? High School and College age kids looking for some spending money or money to supplement what they already have. Receptionists were making more than "minimum wage." How bad of an employee do you have to be to NOT make it as a receptionist or mail clerk in some office. Kids can learn computer skills in High School and get a job at more than "minimum wage." And even those box boys/girls I mentioned earlier can easily work their way up through the store hierarchy in a year or to to become leads and supervisors. "Minimum wage" jobs are for those just starting out in the workplace and need experience. They were never designed to be permanent positions nor a "living wage."

You want to know what racism is? Racism is bringing in people illegally from other countries to take jobs away, at a lower wage, from our own citizens.The largest single demographic of those unemployed is young, African-American, males, aged 18 to 30. The jobs are out there but employers would rather pay less than minimum wage to individuals who also don't require benefits like insurance or require government taxes. Under the guise of "humanitarianism", we bring in people and keep them permanently as an underclass while we spend exorbitant amounts of money in social services for these illegals AND those who are our own citizens and can't get a job. Why don't our politicians point that out? Blatant racism!

Aren't you folks all about capitalism and the free market? Who are the employers?

48% of the agricultural workforce are undocumented immigrants... another 28% are immigrants with green cards... so 3/4th's of the entire agricultural industry workforce is made up of people who are most likely from Mexico/South American countries. People who come here and "take jobs" as you would put it...

Yet farmers are overwhelmingly Republican... they vote in margins for conservative/libertarian leaning candidates some 70%+ to liberal candidates. Ironic that they participate in an industry that is reliant on/takes the most advantage of immigrant workers willing to work for poverty wages, right? Must be a weird internal fight they experience screaming "BUILD THAT WALL!!!" when they've got 30 undocumented immigrants out there plowing their fields...

Democrats might be the people who are more willing to let them in the country... yet Republicans are the first people to hire them and keep them here because it lowers their operating costs to next to nothing. Same goes for the construction and hospitality industries...

Are you gonna be the one to go tell conservative farmers that they can't hire undocumented immigrants and must instead hire US born citizens at the minimum wage?

[bpj]

Farmers rely on who will work for them like anyone else.

Strawberry blonde white boys don't like manual labor anymore. They'd rather golf or surf and live off the government teet.

The right is trying to force millennial losers to work by forcing out the illegals. As if that would get them to accept manual labor positions.

[IStillLoveTheMs]

Farmers rely on who will work for them like anyone else.

Strawberry blonde white boys don't like manual labor anymore. They'd rather golf or surf and live off the government teet.

The right is trying to force millennial losers to work by forcing out the illegals. As if that would get them to accept manual labor positions.

I'm just saying... you want to get rid of the problem of undocumented immigrants?

Force farmers to quit hiring em. Force construction companies to quit hiring em. Force the hospitality industry to quit hiring em.

Won't happen cause conservatives have gotten used to hiring people at poverty wages... they're in fact reliant on it... but there's the crux of your problem.

[Fungo]

Won't happen cause conservatives have gotten used to hiring people at poverty wages... they're in fact reliant on it... but there's the crux of your problem.

They are no more reliant on it than you are reliant on lower food prices.

[IStillLoveTheMs]

Won't happen cause conservatives have gotten used to hiring people at poverty wages... they're in fact reliant on it... but there's the crux of your problem.

They are no more reliant on it than you are reliant on lower food prices.

I'm not reliant on lower food prices thankfully.

And food prices are more or less regulated by the government...not to mention that massive subsidies are given to farmers. There are price controls (floors/ceilings) mandated by the government that keep foods within a specific price range... they typically impose price floors when it comes to agriculture but rest assured there'd be price ceilings if people ever attempted to jack prices.

I have a hard time believing that the government would allow supermarkets to raise prices on food to the point where the essentials are unattainable. And yes, that includes a hypothetical time where you get rid of migrant workers who make zilch in pay from their Republican employers.