Corey Brock Mailbag with my comments

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Post by bpj » Wed Aug 11, 2021 8:25 am

Why chase Bryant and Semien on 5 or 6 year, $125M contracts when Cruz is better and will come on a 1yr/$15M when it makes no difference to us what position the bat we get plays.

We after them because of the position they play, or to add some pop to the lineup?

Easy choice imo.
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Post by Donn Beach » Wed Aug 11, 2021 9:02 am

An aside... notice what Albert pujols been doing for the Dodgers? Not tremendous but back from the dead, positive WAR
.265 .310 .469 .780

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Post by D-train » Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:24 am

bpj wrote:
Wed Aug 11, 2021 5:59 am
If Bryant or Semien cost $25M/yr for 5 years i think we would be better off with:

Seager 1 yr/$10 M (or a 2/20 most likely)
+
Cruz 1 yr/$13M


For one year and complete flexibility going forward.

Someone mentioned they wanted to sign guys that will be here the next several years. Which is great in theory.

But how many of these 5/$125M type guys are a guarantee, or even likely not to be a flop in Seattle? I'd stick with short term guys personally.

I'm not even a Seager fan. But, for less money I think Seager+Cruz brings more depth and production and less of a future contract impediment than a guy like Kris Bryant or Marcus Semien.
Usually I'm not a "do they want to be here" guy but guys that have been here might be even more unlikely to return that guys that have never been here.
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Post by Coeurd’Alene J » Wed Aug 11, 2021 2:15 pm

D-train wrote:
Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:24 am
bpj wrote:
Wed Aug 11, 2021 5:59 am
If Bryant or Semien cost $25M/yr for 5 years i think we would be better off with:

Seager 1 yr/$10 M (or a 2/20 most likely)
+
Cruz 1 yr/$13M


For one year and complete flexibility going forward.

Someone mentioned they wanted to sign guys that will be here the next several years. Which is great in theory.

But how many of these 5/$125M type guys are a guarantee, or even likely not to be a flop in Seattle? I'd stick with short term guys personally.

I'm not even a Seager fan. But, for less money I think Seager+Cruz brings more depth and production and less of a future contract impediment than a guy like Kris Bryant or Marcus Semien.
Usually I'm not a "do they want to be here" guy but guys that have been here might be even more unlikely to return that guys that have never been here.
Kendrys Morales likes your theory

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Post by Donn Beach » Wed Aug 11, 2021 2:36 pm

And it probably helps of you can keep the guys that haven't been here from talking to the guys that have

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Post by Michael K. » Wed Aug 11, 2021 2:48 pm

D-train wrote:
Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:24 am

Usually I'm not a "do they want to be here" guy but guys that have been here might be even more unlikely to return that guys that have never been here.
And, why would that be? I mean, doesn't this organization always put winning first, and the players are a bunch of whiners if they say otherwise? Why would we want those whiners? I heard that for two weeks, trade them all. So, if a guy has been here, and doesn't see that Dipshitto knows best? Screw him, right?

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Post by ddraig » Wed Aug 11, 2021 3:11 pm

Ask Jeff Nelson what happens when you criticize the organization. He got traded. By the time he learned his "lesson," the mariners offered him a second contract, then a third. I'm sure keeping your mouth shut was part of those agreements. Word gets around. MLB is a small community. Just one of many reasons why most MLB owners laugh at this joke of an organization and view it as a farm club.

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Post by D-train » Wed Aug 11, 2021 3:14 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
Wed Aug 11, 2021 2:36 pm
And it probably helps of you can keep the guys that haven't been here from talking to the guys that have
🤣 make them sign non-disclosure Clauses before they leave
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Re: Corey Brock Mailbag with my comments

Post by bpj » Wed Aug 11, 2021 3:36 pm

D-train wrote:
Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:24 am
bpj wrote:
Wed Aug 11, 2021 5:59 am
If Bryant or Semien cost $25M/yr for 5 years i think we would be better off with:

Seager 1 yr/$10 M (or a 2/20 most likely)
+
Cruz 1 yr/$13M


For one year and complete flexibility going forward.

Someone mentioned they wanted to sign guys that will be here the next several years. Which is great in theory.

But how many of these 5/$125M type guys are a guarantee, or even likely not to be a flop in Seattle? I'd stick with short term guys personally.

I'm not even a Seager fan. But, for less money I think Seager+Cruz brings more depth and production and less of a future contract impediment than a guy like Kris Bryant or Marcus Semien.
Usually I'm not a "do they want to be here" guy but guys that have been here might be even more unlikely to return that guys that have never been here.
Might be! And might be more likely to return.

Seagers wife doesn't want to move when it comes down to it..

Nelson didn't have anything negative happen here except for a bad team, and he just left Minnesota.

I'd say Cruz is more likely to re-sign in Seattle than Seager is, we need him more than Seager. Both have a higher chance to sign here than, Semien, for example.

We never would have wanted Kendrys back is the difference.

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Re: Corey Brock Mailbag with my comments

Post by Donn Beach » Wed Aug 11, 2021 3:49 pm

Cruz just take a decent offer, he isn't going to be in high demand

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